It was NOT incompetence!

[Kablooie]

I'm convinced that the terrible way this disaster was NOT due to incompetence.
I now believe, after reading many news reports, that it was DELIBERATE!

There are just too many decisions made that prevented effective rescue work from happening. It wasn't just that FEMA was slow responding.

Foreign Aid was refused.
Rescue workers and doctors were prevented by armed FEMA guards from entering the disaster areas.
Fema hired rescue workers but kept them in hotel rooms instead of sending them to save people.
Military supplies were prepared in advance and ready to go, but FEMA never gave them the order to go.
Forestry fire fighting planes refused.
Frustrated Fireman and rescue workers called from all over the country were used to simply wear FEMA tshirts and hand out pamphlets.

An attempt was made to force the governor to give up all states rights to the Fed.

I read first hand accounts from people staying at a FEMA camp and it sounds almost exactly like the Japanese concentration camps during WW II.


This can't all be simple incompetence. It must be deliberate, but why? WHY?

I guess we could all come up with all kind of nefarious schemes they could be hatching but that is simply idle guessing. There's a missing piece here that they are keeping from us.

But SOMETHING is going on underneath all this and I have a strong feeling that it's goal is not one that many Americans would like.

It seems we are beginning to live in Orwell's Animal Farm and by god it scares me!

[blossomstar]

1. we've been living in "animal house" since 2000

[brazil]

3. Animal House... or Animal Farm?

"Comrades!" he cried. "You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples. Do you know what would happen if we pigs failed in our duty? Jones would come back! Yes, Jones would come back! Surely, comrades," cried Squealer almost pleadingly, skipping from side to side and whisking his tail, "surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?"

[LeahD]

2. No, it can't be.!! But why did my gut tighten as I read this? n/t

[firefox]

4. I agree that withholding action was deliberate

One interesting fact is that Halliburton stock reached a new record price and in a DU thread a few hours ago, they announced a price increase.

For some reason I was watching the late news where WarCriminal was reading off the list of supplies that went in. I remember it ended with "...11,000 blankets. And we are just beginning." It really takes a dunce to use that phrase "we are just beginning." That is what everyone is pissed about dumbass. Why are we just now beginning eight days and 50,000 deaths late?

[Beam Me Up]

5. Exactly. It was not incompetence. IT WAS POLICY.

I keep telling you guys. THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS A THREAT TO OUR NATIONS' SECURITY. I'm not making that up. Al Gore said it over two years ago. Ambassador Joseph Wilson said the same thing last year. They are GUTTING this country from the inside out.

INCOMPETENCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR TREASON.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

24. The case to be made...

...for many Bushco players (including the Chimp) being guilty of treason is very solid. If Bushco were to be displaced from power (big if, would require a revolution) Patriot Act II could be used to round them up, throw them in Gitmo, no trial, no access to the outside world, just indefinite detention. This is one reason they will never give up control of the ballot box voluntarily. Election results will be predetermined from here on out.

[Carolab]

6. Yes, it is all PREPLANNED. Quite obvious now, isn't it?

They are trying to get us all under their control--via MARTIAL LAW. This thing in NO was a "trial run" to see what it would take. They knew who would be hit hardest and they let it happen--allowed it to go on for days and withheld support DELIBERATELY so they could force the state and local officials to give in to Federal control over the entire area--and make permanent decisions from then on about what would happen to it all and who would be rebuilding what. They didn't count on Blanco being so hard to run over, though.

In a nutshell, the "missing piece" is the "New World Order".

People think Alex Jones is all "tin foil hatty" but he's been onto this for years now.

On edit: You forgot--a Navy ship, the Bataan, was stationed right outside NOLA and followed the storm in to help. They were told to sit tight and not do anything.

[Beam Me Up]

9. I agree, except I don't trust Alex Jones, either.

It's not that he's too 'tin foil hat', rather, that he is something else altogether and I can't quite figure out what it is. He's like a used car salesman and the fact that he is like that makes me think the whole point of his existence is to point out the truth in such a way that most people will NOT believe it (if that makes any sense to you).

[Carolab]

13. Greg Palast apparently likes him.

Reportedly Greg said, "this guy is a national treasure, a light breaking through the electronic Berlin Wall of the US media establishment."

I know that Greg has been on Alex's show.


http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=198&row=2

Here's a sample of that interview from Greg's site. Well worth the read:

GP: Yeah, it’s gone crazy. And then now also this story about the World Bank. As you know, I went through the documents from the World Bank, marked secret, and one of the things it had in there – it says well if you go ahead with these plans, we know, for example, in the case of Ecuador. If we go ahead and require you to double the price of cooking gas in Ecuador, because that’s the only way you can cook your food in Ecuador is with bottled gas. So this is like life and death, you increase the price of food, you increase the price of gasoline, you increase the price of cooking gas, we know that this will create what they call social unrest. And when they did that, of course, the social unrest, what they mean by social unrest, I wasn’t quite sure and said it looks like there was going to be a riot if they impose these plans and they know it. And Joe Stiglitz is the chief economist for the World Bank and he was the guy on the inside. He said, “Oh yeah, that’s what we call the IMF riot.” So the riot was written into the plan. And then it says the government has to respond with political resolve and strong resolve. They keep using that term. That means troops in the streets.

[Beam Me Up]

19. I do respect Greg Palast

And I don't mean to say I completely rule out Alex Jones. I've been listening to what he's been saying off and on for some years now.

I don't know what it is. Perhaps I am mistaken.

[bpilgrim]

15. i think he is speaking to a particular audience

who respond to the emotion and just think if you knew as much as he does as long as he has :shrug:

:scared:

peace

[Carolab]

17. What about Greg? He reports for the BBC and wins awards for it.

Yet, he was on Alex's show.

[bpilgrim]

22. he knows, too

I think Alex is an GREAT AMERICAN and speaks to a republican ear more than a dem is all... i think it is a very important audience.

:hi:

peace

[Beam Me Up]

23. It is going to spread and it is going to get worse, right?

That's my feeling about it. One way or another, sooner or later. It could be a matter of weeks or months. Possibly years but that is being optimistic.

Unless something truly unexpected shows up 'out of the blue'.

[murielm99]

7. I agree. It was deliberate. nt

[MikeNY]

8. If it was incompetence...

I'm not sure which one would be more frightening, pure 100% incompetence which we have seen, or a plot simply to withhold relief. We have heard and read reports of numerous accounts where aid was held back, dozens if not hundreds of buses driving out of town with noone in them, relief workers being turned away for trivial reasons.

"We had Wal-Mart deliver three trucks of water, trailer trucks of water. FEMA turned them back. They said we didn't need them. This was a week ago. FEMA--we had 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel on a Coast Guard vessel docked in my parish. The Coast Guard said, "Come get the fuel right away." When we got there with our trucks, they got a word. "FEMA says don't give you the fuel." Yesterday--yesterday--FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines. They cut them without notice. Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in, he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our line and says, "No one is getting near these lines." - Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard

"Jamming radio and other communications such as television signals is part of a Pentagon tactic called "information blockade" or "technology blockade." The tactic is one of a number of such operations that are part of the doctrine of "information warfare" and is one of the psychological operations (PSYOPS) methods used by the US Special Operations Command." - Wayne Madsen

Addendum: This link seems to give rise to even more evidence http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/131934/7503

[brazil]

10. More Animal Farm...

"Comrades," he said, "I trust that every animal here appreciates the sacrifice that Comrade Napoleon has made in taking this extra labour upon himself. Do not imagine, comrades, that leadership is a pleasure! On the contrary, it is a deep and heavy responsibility. No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be? Suppose you had decided to follow Snowball, with his moonshine of windmills-Snowball, who, as we now know, was no better than a criminal?"

"He fought bravely at the Battle of the Cowshed," said somebody.

"Bravery is not enough," said Squealer. "Loyalty and obedience are more important. And as to the Battle of the Cowshed, I believe the time will come when we shall find that Snowball's part in it was much exaggerated. Discipline, comrades, iron discipline! That is the watchword for today. One false step, and our enemies would be upon us. Surely, comrades, you do not want Jones back?"

[sam sarrha]

11. on AAR they said they had evidence * told FEMA to stand-Down

and not provide services..

during a photo Opp he made the statement about when he really told them to activate,..days later.

I had told my mother that they had to keep lieing, because if they ever told the truth, in any way it would reveal their whole house of cards..


well folks ..IT HAPPENED..!! and it will probably bring them down.

[mirandapriestly]

12. Man, I was thinking the same thing

especially when I read that FEMA was turning back food, turning back fuel, and cutting Phone lines! It's like they have been trying to create rioting and havoc and the original corporate news was trying to portray the only issue of significance as the "looters" and exagerrating the "armed" men. But then I read that there were 40 bodies found mutilated and I wondered what that was all about.

[wiley]

14. The Repukes have been pretty upfront about it

Starve the beast called humanity. Barbara Bush said it all. Medicaid to be cut by $10 billion by Sept. 16. Who do you think will suffer and die from that?

[tinrobot]

16. Why? Profit!

They didn't plan the hurricane, but once the city was destroyed, they saw a profit to be made in rebuilding the city.

Don't forget, Halliburton got the contract to rebuild even before FEMA arrived.

[Carolab]

18. They deliberately cause economies to collapse, leading to riots,

then to a "police state" in which they control everything.

Read the link I provided above for more.

[understandinglife]

20. Coordinated incompetence - in other words - Bush. Wanted. Them. To. Die.

And, Blackwater; and, Halliburton, and ... others to benefit, big-time.


Peace.

[CountAllVotes]

21. But SOMETHING is going on underneath all this

I suggest you check out this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4671357&mesg_id=4671357