The Democrats have once again dropped the ball

[qanda]

All I've been hearing today is that it was the responsibility of the local and state officials to evacuate New Orleans and be the first responders to the tragedy. I even heard the bimbo on "The View" state that the only mistake the President made was trusting that the state and local officials would do their job.

But, what are the Democrats saying? "Now is not the time to play the blame game." Well, the Republicans are certainly playing the blame game and they are blaming Democrats. I guess when you don't show up for the game, you end up losing!!!!!!

[thedailyshow]

1. I agree

[sniffa]

2. um, what dems are saying that?

Liebermann?

[qanda]

23. I guess I should correct myself and say that a few have spoken out

But they are the one that we can usually count on to speak out. We need people like Liebermann right now to have a unified message. How is it that polls are showing that Bush isn't being blamed for this? I guess I should have said that the cry isn't loud enough instead of saying that it's not there at all.

[blossomstar]

3. I am so let down again....

after the swift boat attacks on Kerry, I kept wondering... where is his response??? Too little, too late, OMG here we go again. The dum dems never seem to get it quick enough! God help us all....

[NRaleighLiberal]

4. This is why they control it all - we play weak hands - we care about

the people too much, care about how we are perceived....they certainly don't, and seem to get away with whatever they want. Still, I would not want to be like them.

[ThomWV]

5. Horseshit

We never had the god damned ball to drop it. Its the Republican's ball and has been for the last 5 years.

[Teaser]

6. You're hearing different from me.

All I'm hearing is blistering criticism of George Bush.

[Stand and Fight]

7. I see that dinner is being served in the main hall...

Time to eat our own... again. :eyes:

[qanda]

10. I kept hearing DUers saying the Dems need to fight back

Time to face the facts that our leadership is inept and weak. Too concerned with how we will be perceived to be effective and if that's eating our own then maybe they need to be eaten and replaced with some people who aren't afraid to stand up for the people they represent.

[DefenseLawyer]

30. I don't think it's "our" own

I think most if not all of the "democrats suck" threads are not posted by Democrats, that is people who are members of the Democratic Party. Rather they are people outside the Democratic Party, be it Greens or Naderites or progressive Independents, who either want to get rid the party or highjack it. They want the money and organization of a major political party, but they want it to only reflect their own narrow views. Clearly the party must reflect certain core principles, but political reality is that to have broad support, we must have some compromise on some things. We can't be the "anti-Gun" party or the "No coal mining" party or the "No army" party, or any number of issues that might very well be correct positions, but which won't garner broadbased support. These folks are idealists who either don't recognize, or choose to ignore, political reality. These are the "I would rather lose than compromise" people. I say there are plenty of "boutique" political parties you can join where you can do just that.

[Nitrogenica]

8. Nobody plays the blame game better than the Bush Whitehouse

and look what the lemming say despite the documentation and evidence to the contrary. The Democtratic leadership better get into blame mode quick!

[chicagiana]

24. As I heard Simple Scotty on Malloy last night ...

Simple Scotty kept saying "Now is not the time for the Blame Game".

I kept thinking to myself ..

"methinks the lady doth protest too much!?!?!?!"

[nyhuskyfan]

9. Wow. Is that a reach.

The only mistake he made? Strumming a guitar? Eating cake? Hiring a horsey guy to run FEMA? Talking about Trent Lott's frickin' house?

The list of things he did right would be much harder to come up with. And not just for Katrina -- for his whole bleepin' presidency.

[qanda]

11. You are exactly right

And those are the things the Democrats should be screaming from the rooftop. Why aren't they?

[porphyrian]

16. DLC Leadership

They don't want to offend or scare their corporate sponsors or their "moderate swing voter" chimera away. After all, this strategy has proven so effective for the last three major elections. They've even got Dean on a short leash.

[theHandpuppet]

32. No, they don't want to offend their corporate sponsors

That's the bottom line, folks.

[sui generis]

12. I sure hope we aren't saying that.

Now IS the time to play the accountability game, ad nauseum.

In case you didn't get it, this week was supposed to be a glorification of the administration followed by a Rove-orchestrated surge of nationalism after that televised Flight 93 emotional masturbation piece. It didn't quite work out as planned, but they aired it anyway.

They are STILL making political hay out of 9/11, even though it was their fault it happened at all, and on their watch.

They warned us not to play on 9/11 before the election and then shamelessly used it over and over again in the republican campaign.

If we as a party pull punches after this debacle, then the democratic party will not be able to count on my support, now or ever again. We need strength, conviction, and perfect moral clarity against these evil bastards, and bobble-headed repetition of republican talking points like "now is not the time to play the blame game" is not strong democratic leadership.

[sniffa]

18. if you ask the OP who's saying that

he may just not answer. :eyes:

[fooj]

13. Those rat bastards are in control of every aspect of our government.

EVERYTHING should be THEIR fault...their incompetence...not ours.

[Habibi]

14. You've been hearing this from Dems?

Really? Which ones? Hillary has been quite vocal about whose responsibility this is, Pelosi's been on it, too. Who are you hearing say these things?

[seabeyond]

15. the bimbo on view is a repug, and that is repug talking point

of course she said it. and that means what, that it is true.

as they say local responsibility i say, duh...... still at this point the locals are doing. the state govt's are doing. the american people are doing. and charities are doing.

obviously we have to do, because still, bush is not doing

[Greyhound]

17. Are you working under the assumption that Dems are not part of the same

strategy? This is just a turf war over who will rule over which serfs in the future. They've been outmaneuvered by the repugs. They cannot effectively criticize without exposing their own culpability in what has really happened.

[jane_pippin]

19. Weeel, I've heard a steady stream of Congressional Black Caucus

members on Air America calling out *, expressing outrage, and demanding accountability, but I guess they don't count.

[DemocracyInaction]

22. Youre right, Jane, they don't count

They never have. They stood up to the 2000 end of democracy and were flaked off like lint on a good suit by the American people. The great body of Americans are not listening to them. To the people of this nation they are just a bunch of "blacks"..who cares what they think. That's why they need the grand, corrupted mass of the rest of the Dems standing right beside them and screaming until the walls fall down. Will it happen...naw. It never happens.

[jane_pippin]

31. Here's the thing, for me anyway:

I'm sick and damn tired of the CBC being 1. the only voice willing to speak truth to power time and time again 2. routinely stood up by other members of Congress.

I understand your point, and sadly, you're right. I say "sadly" because these are members of Congress who shouldn't have to wait around for the likes of Joe Biden to legitimize the message they have so the message can have a chance get on the tv and out to "reg'lur folk.". And on top of it, other members of Congress shouldn't act like it's the kiss of death to stand with the CBC either.

edit: clarity

[Mutley]

20. Many of the Dems are nothing more than a tool of the GOP.

There are a few that speak for us; Conyers, Boxer, Reid, and a few others, but for the most part the Dems are not very far removed from the right. Thank goodness at least a FEW have spoken up in this debacle.

[DemocracyInaction]

21. 13% Blame Bush...only 13%

I awoke to that news via Gallup---and it is not out of line with other "polls". They blame the GOVERNMENT and equally divide between the state/local and federal. BUT they do not blame Bush. You can join our Dem leaders if you wish and put your head in the sand and attack the polls as propaganda generated by a conclave of evil doers and ardently maintain that you know that 12334% of the nation really, really blames George. They don't. Get over that thinking. AND the blame game does go right to our Dem leaders feet because it was up to them to make sure the attention wasn't diverted from George. A few carefully crafted statements are bullshit. They needed a shoulder to shoulder visible and united bellowing the likes of which could not be buried on page 30 of a newspaper. They have not. Bush got away with it. And when he gets away with destroying one major American city by rank neglect, trust me he will be held accountable for nothing in his remaining term. And bank on it--the people will re-elect Repubs in droves come '06 and '08. Calling for an investigation is the chickshit way of saying "we'll deal with that way down the line somewhere when Georgie is safely out of any line of fire".

[chicagiana]

25. Did they qualify the poll ???

Did they qualify the poll to see how many respondents were aware that Bush IS the government????

[sniffa]

27. bLame the president, not bush

he didn't do anything.

:crazy:

[auracat]

26. just say N.O. to Bush

[redqueen]

28. That's not what Nancy Pelosi is saying.

That's not what Ken Salazar is saying.

Who IS saying that?

[BikeWriter]

29. Hey, look at the other headlines in this forum!