Poor Maria Or Is That Maria The Enabler?

[KharmaTrain]

What a sad sight this lady is. Besides looking like this month's Anorexia America pin-up girl, she's had to step up and defend the virtual indefensible...her husband's alleged infidelity.

The saddest was the other day when she told a group along the lines that if there anything bad going on she would know. As if? Maybe Maria was a little out of her league answering the charges rather than tossing them around, but she can't really believe that her husband would tell her of his playing around...especially the "smoke" that has risen since they've been married.

It reminded me of all the Clinton haters who hopped all over Hillary as if she had some control on her husband and that by either not divorcing him or throwing another imaginary ashtray at him on national TV, she was "enabling" his "sexual predetory nature".

Did anyone else pick up on this? Honestly, I think this lady realized too late what she was getting into.

[ReadTomPaine]

1. Think "Lady Macbeth"

I understand that she's every bit as competitive and ambitious as her hubby, and probably more shrewd to boot. Explains a lot of her behavior.

[Dookus]

2. I think it's sad, too.

I only hope Maria's getting as much on the side as Arnold is.

[opihimoimoi]

3. The poor shithead is TRAPPED. Got no choice but to back the

monster she married to. Her face, an ugly one to boot, is on the line.

So she goes into DENIAL, typ Pub move.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Any abusive relationship is hard to 'get out' of

Especially a relationship that is so in the public spotlight at the moment. Maria is showing a lot of the signs of a battered and anorexic woman. She needs major help before it's too late.

Looking at pics of her, gives new meaning to the idea of 'death warmed over'.

[IndianaGreen]

5. Like Hillary and Bill?

Get real!

There is no enabling here, anymore than it was with Hillary and Bill Clinton. Most of the allegations predate Maria Shriver's marriage to Arnold.

As to the tiresome and boorish comments about Maria Shriver's looks, have any of you bothered to look at Maria's mother, Eunice Shriver, and what she looks like? Maria looks like her mother. Is this now to be twisted into some "abuse" spin just because it is politically expedient?





Ma Shriver backs Schwarzenegger
By Inside Track
Friday, September 12, 2003

EUNICE KENNEDY SHRIVER has thrown her weight - what little she has - behind son-in-law Arnold Schwarzenegger's bid for California governor. In her first public campaign appearance, the lifelong Democrat and sister of the late President John F. Kennedy, told reporters in San Jose, ``I think he'd be a very good governor. He's been committed to people all his life. Since the day he first arrived here, he's been a success with people.'' She added, ``I think he'd be a very good governor because he is interested in all (kinds of) subjects, particularly subjects that pertain to children.''

http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/starTracks/starTracks.bg?articleid=10

[KharmaTrain]

6. Now...Now...

I had to hold back on some of the snider comments I could have made about Maria's looks (and I'm sure there's some very descriptive ones in strings on here), but that's not what's making her look bad to me.

It's no-win game any wife who casts herself in the political spotlight get when it comes to their husband's filadering. I don't think Maria's taking it all that well. Maybe she thought that all that her family's been through, she could handle this as well, but her recent appearances just give the appearance of a woman who is shell-shocked at what's going on around her. Very surprising for a woman with so many years of professional experience under her belt.

Unfortunately this campaign is now totally void of issues and purely a popularity contest.

The relationship with Hillary is also very apt in the light of how others attempted to lambast her for her husband's actions that she had neither knowledge nor control over. And, don't get me wrong, Ahnold's infidelities are a matter between the two of them and has no bearing on what type of Governator he'd be...he's disqualified since he lacks knowledge or substance and is Pete Wilson/Karl Rove's stooge...but that's not how the game is played in "the media"...and will Maria get anywhere near the same treatment Hillary had to endure?

[IndianaGreen]

9. Arnold is disqualified on the basis he is a front man for Pete Wilson

as to the other stuff, what happened to the presumption of innocence? Most of this stuff would be thrown out of court because it wasn't timely (in Indiana there is a 2-year statute of limitations on torts).

With the media convulsing on all of the uncorroborated allegations, Bustamante cannot get his message out. Davis is toast no matter what happens to Arnold.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. I think my concerns are valid

When someone goes from the pic below to looking like the pic above, something is definitely wrong with that person. After working in a high risk clinic for a number of years you develop the ability to recognize the signs of abuse as soon as the person walks in the room. Maria needs to get herself medical help soon, or she'll end up in the same place has Karen Carpenter.

[izzie]

14. Her mother looked like this

n/t

[Gman]

7. She's a Kennedy woman

very codependent.

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[LosinIt]

12. excellent shape??? perhaps by Vogue standards

she is severely underweight and that is NOT healthy, no matter what society tells us these days.

[Mairead]

10. The partisan sexism in threads such as this is quite distasteful

Do you think Maria is a 20-y.o. chickybabe? She's not. She's nearly 50, and she looks about the way any woman her age with northern-European genes who's lived decades in the California sun looks in an unflattering photo.

Ageist sexism is unbecoming.

[KharmaTrain]

11. It's More The Look Than The Looks

Maria looks shell-shocked...that all that's going on is just way over her head. Maybe it's having to enter the "real world" or that she can't stomache all that's being said about her and her husband, but she doesn't look like she's having much fun on the "stump"

Being a nearly 50 year old male, I know aging is not a "sexy" thing...especially when one wakes up with more hair on the pillow than on their head or can't see their feet when standing up.

But, remember, we live in a world where looks mean more than substance...especially in Lotusland. These people spend more money on their vanity in a day than we do in a lifetime.

[izzie]

15. Maybe the two pick this life style?

Like Jackie stayed and lived with it. I see nothing wrong if they make it their life style and can live with it. The only happy people, who are married, I have ever seen is when they both wish the same life style.I was married and am not any more as I wished to live as I liked.

[KharmaTrain]

16. May They Be Happy Together

A person's lifestyle is of their choosing and I, nor anyone else, should judge as long as they live within the law.

But when someone steps into the public limelight...especially attempting to use morality as a claim for their legitimacy, does't that make it fair game to question their lifestyles as a barometer of how they would act in making decisions on the taxpayer's dime.

I've been with the same woman for 27 years, married for 21 and, yes, common cause brings us together...primarily our family, similar interests and years of putting up with one another. But, again, the point is we constantly see Repugnicans moralize on lifestyles and "family values", yet seem never to practice what they preach. If Ahnold wins, I never, ever want to hear a wingnut use morality as an issue again.

[union_maid]

17. Avoid temptation

It's easy, even natural to want to challenge a high profile woman who's defending the indefensible in her husband. But we've been there and now the shoe is really on the other foot. Everyone should concentrate on Arnold and not even try to figure out what's up in their marriage. If the stories are true, his behavior is way beyond infidelity and is borderline criminal. Maybe not even so borderline.

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. Marie Shriver is a public figure

And she has put herself front and center on this thing.

In my book, when someone gets up in front of a camera and has a national platform to voice their opinions, then they are fair game for criticism.