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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:41 PM
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YES!!!! It was that dopey photo from AF1 that did Chimpy in!!!
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 07:41 PM by CatWoman
Fineman reporting now on MSNBC.

Said that photo was the defining moment, and helped to bring Chimpy down in the polls.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:41 PM
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1. come again?
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:42 PM
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3. When he did a flyover he looked aloof
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:45 PM
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12. Well, he was aloft!
hehe
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:51 PM
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17. Wrong - it was Zoloft, and some antispychotics
He was flying alright, even after AF1 lands. that would explain so much.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:43 PM
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4. when Bush flew over New Orleans to survey the damage in AF1
trying to look "presidential"
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:44 PM
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8. he said that the picture of him geebing out the window was a WORSE
image for him than the guitar picture

he's SUCH a douchebag

that guitar picture got much less publicity than the picture, which THEY put out in hopes it would capture the same essence of that "famous" 911 one

NOBODY outside of us here, mainly, saw the guitar picture, which, if it got wide release, would have been VERY devastating, especially if given the proper context
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:41 PM
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2. Proof that Rove is not a genius
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:44 PM
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10. I've never believed rover was a genius
He's a smart guy with no scruples whatsoever. He's a 'do whatever it takes' kind of guy.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:03 PM
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24. even so, that shit can work for only so long
as in, "you can fool some of the people some of the time....."
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:06 PM
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29. Exactly
I've never thought he was anyways. Just a douchebag.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:43 PM
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5. But it worked on 9/11!
Gosh, why are people so picky?

The belief in Rove's genius has always been highly misinformed.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:43 PM
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6. we've come a long way from 9/11
:hi:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:07 PM
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31. Yes, he was still "new"
after 9/11. Everybody was very charitably giving him a pass. No more.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:09 PM
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33. plus 9/11 was an act of terrorism
who is Chimpy gonna invade for this? Mother Nature? The Keebler Elves? The Rice Krispy guys?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:43 PM
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7. Olberman called it the "Oh, there's my house" photo!
:rofl:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:45 PM
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hahahahahahahaha..........
I heard that, but did't realize the context!!!!

that's HY fricking LARE eous!

too funny
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MidnightWind Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:11 PM
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36. KO ROCKS!
That was a great interview with Fineman. Good analysis!
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Mein Bush Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:04 PM
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25. He probably ordered purging of Air Force One's waste water tanks!
With the Deomocratic Governor on the infra-red scope Bush ordered the jet down to 2,000 feet in order to lessen any collatoral damage.

He quipped, "Aw heck, this is less radioactive than a depleted uranium shell."
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:07 PM
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30. LOL!
I love his sarcastic, and oh so true, comments. LOL! Oh wait "There's Trent Lott's house!"
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:11 PM
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37. He meant Trent Lott's house...
It will be months before he can get drunk on that front porch..and he is pissed...
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:44 PM
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9. Link to photo?
I don't think I've seen it.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:04 PM
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26. ...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:33 PM
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42. I'll say it again, he is looking at clouds

He could not possibly look at the ground at that angle.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:35 PM
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43. Thanks, CatWoman!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:06 PM
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46. "Hey! Karl! There he is again!"
"Thet ghost-guy who wuz lookin' in at me when I wuz looking out th' winder fer th' photog lady on 9-11! Gimme nuzzer drink, Dammit!"
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:45 PM
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11. David Brooks called it "terrible"
David Brooks! on Lehrer
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:45 PM
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13. Was the photographer gitmo'd? n/t
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:46 PM
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14. I wanna see it. Link?
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:51 PM
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16. Link
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:20 PM
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48. Why, thank you!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:05 PM
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27. ...
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:50 PM
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15. All photographs imply a photographer
Yeah, I'm the king of obvious with that subject line. But when I saw the picture of Bush looking out the window, I assumed it was the official WH photographer and not a member of the press who took the picture. And it was impossible not to imagine Bush saying, "now get this shot". Or one of his handlers thought it would be a bright idea, maybe. Any way you cut it, it looks staged and it looks like it was done completely for effect.

You can't look at that photograph without thinking about what's going on behind the camera, and before the shot was taken. And it all adds up to a propaganda machine that appears to be coming apart at the seams.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:08 PM
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32. Definitely staged
You don't get lighting like that by accident...and don't tell me it was because he was near the light source of the window. No way. That's a perfect composition of figure and light. That's a staged photograph for sure.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:10 PM
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34. Exactly
It's a total photo-op. You can just tell it's so obvious.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:33 PM
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51. Yeah, no shit... Staged, staged, staged.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 09:52 PM by Peake
If they let MSM photographers on AF1, they can let Cindy Sheehan on for a little chat as well.

Edited for major condensation of references.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:52 PM
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18. Yeah - Howard, it was the photo alright. The fact that the calvary
was 7 days late had nothing to do with it. Geeez.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:52 PM
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19. Here you go. One of my favs. Hope this is the one.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:56 PM
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21. He looks pissed...fists clenched
I think he wants to hit whoever took the photo.
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:10 PM
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47. P R I C K
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:31 PM
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50. Which screen do I's look at again?
:freak:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:55 PM
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20. Catwoman means the
that photo of herr Emperor Bunnypants once AGAIN too chickenshit to actually BE in the midst of the crisis but merely flying high above it-safe, distant and not doing a damn thing to help anyone.

The commander in chief. :sarcasm:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:57 PM
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22. caption it:
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 07:58 PM by kenny blankenship

"The buck stops miles below me, isn't that right Karl?"
"--that's right, Mr. President."
"Say it Karl, speak the words. I need to hear you say it"
"--the buck stops miles below you Mr. President."
"See to it Karl. Make it so."
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:01 PM
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23. He was also quoted
to have said it must suck doubly to be down there. Or some such stupid shit.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:14 PM
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40. I remember that stupid comment too! I expect he will autograph it and
send it as a thank you to all his big donors.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:12 PM
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38. Oh please no
I got a horrible mental image in my head now!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:06 PM
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28. It's downright Nixonian.
The whole notion of the president flying around like an emporer in his air conditioned luxury jet, haplessly peering out of the window while hundreds of feet below people, the size of ants from his perspective, are dying of thirst and exhaustion is hard to spin.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:10 PM
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35. Not just dopey. It's a totally contrived, staged, crafted photograph.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 08:11 PM by Straight Shooter
No way on God's green earth (or God's blue sky) did that photo come about without extensive maneuvering to capture the light just so. I wonder if the ace photographer snickers about it whenever it crosses his mind to attempt to display Little Boots "in the best light possible."

And what's the deal with the fist? Is this supposed to convey a sense of anger at an act of God? Why doesn't he just beat himself senseless with that fist, it's his fault the damage went out of control.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:13 PM
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39. No, not crafted, no fancy lighting.
There is nothing fancy about the lighting. Dim interior lighting versus very bright lighting reflected from water outside. By the way, the lighting inside Bush's head is even dimmer.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:25 PM
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41. Little Boots
:D

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:52 PM
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44. The "I Can See My House From Here!" photo!
That's what Olbermann called it.

Well, Shrubby, you may not be able to see the White House for much longer.

Only wish we had someone better to take over if you didn't.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:02 PM
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45. Contrived? Staged? Crafted? Like this one?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:35 PM
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52. Jesus smirky!
:dem:
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:23 PM
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49. I'm sorry but, a picture is not what brought dubya down
it is his arrogance and incompetence.

no one in LA saw that fucking picture
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:58 PM
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53. Video of that segment here
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