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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:52 PM
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I'm not the tin foil hat type normally, but this scares the hell out of me
And reading this, I have no reason whatsoever to disbelieve it. Sorry in advance if this has already been posted.

"I just got back from a FEMA Detainment Camp

"I'm extremely depressed to report that things seem to only be getting sadder concerning the people so devastatingly affected by Katrina last week. Two car loads of us headed over to Falls Creek, a youth camp for Southern Baptist churches in Oklahoma that agreed to have its facilities used to house Louisiana refugees. I'm afraid the camp is not going to be used as the kind people of the churches who own the cabins believe it was going to be used.

"Jesse Jackson was right when he said "refugees" was not the appropriate word for the poor souls dislocated due to Katrina. But he was wrong about why it is not appropriate. It's not appropriate because they are detainees, not refugees.

"Falls Creek is like a small town that is closed down about 9 months out of the year. It is made up of cabins that range from small and humble to large and grandiose, according to how much money the church who owns the cabin has. Each cabin has full kitchen facilities, bathrooms and usually have two large bunkrooms - one for women and one for men. The occupancy of the cabins varies according to the church. This past week the Southern Baptist association of Oklahoma offered the facility as a place to house refugees from the Katrina disaster. Each church owning a cabin was then called to find out if they would make their cabin available. Churches across the state agreed."

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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:56 PM
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1. Saw that yesterday. Was disturbed, but not cofident in the source. But
when the Denver Post printed a similar tale, I started looking for my passport.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:56 PM
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2. I don't have the energy anymore.
It's tinfoil bullshit.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:58 PM
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3. The Denver Post, too?
n/t
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:07 PM
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7. If that Denver Post article resembles the
waynemadsen site it is only by accident.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:31 AM
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21. No, the Denver Post article resembling what's on that site is ALARMING.
n/t
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:59 PM
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4. If they didn't want you to see it, you would not know it was there.
Sorry, nothing really evil about this! Maybe we should just give them unlimited expense accounts and house them in Trump Tower.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:22 PM
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12. Maybe we SHOULD allow them to leave to, I don't know, SEARCH FOR WORK??
And maybe they SHOULD be allowed to come back if the work wasn't there?
And maybe YOU should take a look at the WIDE ASS SPECTRUM between a stay at Trump Towers and imprisonment.

Why don't you start here at , a site so filled with asbestos and lead that the Government was stumped as to how to rehabilitate it. I'm sure you've got no problem with the fact that they forgot about it's sordid environmental history and welcomed our traumatized citizens with "open arms"? Oh and another little tidbit to tickle your funny-bone--My SILs sister said that there have been stories of people "caught" trying to "escape from" Ft. Chaffee.

Yes. THAT is the word they're using in the news.

E.S.C.A.P.E.

Not a lot of guests trying to escape from Trump Towers.






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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:00 PM
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5. Oh. My. God.
FEMA will not allow any of the kitchen facilities in any of the cabins to be used by the occupants due to fire hazards. FEMA will deliver meals to the cabins. The refugees will be given two meals per day by FEMA. They will not be able to cook. In fact, the "host" goes on to explain, some churches had already enquired about whether they could come in on weekends and fix meals for the people staying in their cabin. FEMA won't allow it because there could be a situation where one cabin gets steaks and another gets hot dogs - and...

it could cause a riot.

It gets worse.

He then precedes to tell us that some churches had already enquired into whether they could send a van or bus on Sundays to pick up any occupants of their cabins who might be interested in attending church. FEMA will not allow this. The occupants of the camp cannot leave the camp for any reason. If they leave the camp they may never return. They will be issued FEMA identification cards and "a sum of money" and they will remain within the camp for the next 5 months.

My son looks at me and mumbles "Welcome to Krakow."

(emphasis added)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:33 PM
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16. Damn! Dachau!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:03 PM
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6. Until proven otherwise, I am assuming the worst, these days...
"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."
Martin Niemoller

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:09 PM
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8. Recommend this, please!
The only way to change what is happening is to PUBLICIZE!

:scared:

:nuke:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:19 PM
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11. recommended. but need to pass to all you know.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:10 PM
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9. fema did the same at the Astrodome-and the volenteers had to put
out calls for clothes for the people!



"Can we help you?"

I explained to them what we were doing.

"Uhh... you can't just leave donated goods in the cabins. FEMA has stated they want all supplies to go to their central warehouse. They said they have had far too many supplies come in and they need to handle them. You can't leave ANY clothes."

I just stared at them.

One chubby-checker, after several moments of pregnant pause broken only by the sound of my 82 year old dad continuing to shuffle boxes out of the back of his car (GO DAD!), says "I'll call "BASE" and confirm what should happen here."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:17 PM
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10. and those who went to Utah are experiencing similiar things-read a
story--or maybe it was Aaron Brown last night who did a piece on the evacuees in Mormon country.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:25 PM
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13. This is totally believable and very disturbing.
The churches believed they were providing safety and comfort to evacuees. FEMA has turned it into a detention camp! What have we (they) become?

Thanks for the post.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:26 PM
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14. This thread only needs one more recommendation!
This info needs to be also sent to all the MSM and especially Keith, Ron Reagan at MSNBC, Jon at the Daily Show, and even Scarboro since he seems to have changed his opinions recently!

The public thinks the problem was Shrub laging for 3 days before paying any attention to this disaster? They haven't seen ANYTHING until they see this kind of stuff coming out of his "Brownie's" FEMA disorganization!!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:34 PM
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17. Here ya go!
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:32 PM
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15. Creepy
For some reason it reminds me of the Hand Maid's Tale.

:scared:
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:51 PM
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20. Why reach for fiction when
there are of historical references to choose from?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:40 PM
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18. Has anybody sent this to Mike Maloy?
I don't want to send it if others have already, but Mike will latch onto this. So would Randi, and all the other hosts on AAR. Why did we want these liberal radio stations on air if they can't get this kind of stuff out to the public??? How about Guy James???

Anyone know if they've got this info yot?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:42 PM
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19. You should definitely send it to Mike -- tho
I worry about that man's heart - he is somewhere between despair and having a heart attack.
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