so is this a sign that the mutiny was real? LA GUARD SOLDIERS HEAD HOME

[smurfygirl]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9245073/

Louisiana Guard soldiers heading home
80 percent of New Orleans unit lost homes, jobs, relatives



Updated: 8:20 a.m. ET Sept. 8, 2005
CAMP VICTORY, Kuwait - Hundreds of soldiers from a New Orleans National Guard unit begin leaving Thursday to return to the devastation left by Hurricane Katrina. Guard officials said 80 percent lost homes or jobs and some had not heard from relatives since the storm.

A Pentagon team led by Brig. Gen. Sean Byrne flew into this U.S. base in the Kuwaiti desert to help ease the Louisiana’s unit redeployment home.

Speaking Wednesday to 150 soldiers sitting on plywood benches in a tent billowing in the wind, Byrne told them that if their homes are gone and their families scattered and homeless, the Army will help.

follow link for the rest...

[Maple]

1. Well if so It would have been stupid

to try and hold them...after seeing what they did about New Orleans and their families, they aren't going to give a damn about Iraq or the military.

[Stand and Fight]

2. Mutiny?

Explain please. This is the first I've heard of this. It's hard to keep up with everything going on. Thank you in advance.

[smurfygirl]

6. there was a thread on this last night. maybe someone has it

anyway. apparantly there was a mutiny in which LA soldiers attacked their officers and refused to fight Bush's dirty war anymore.

If someone has the link or story please post it.

[pnorman]

8. I saw that yesterday, but neglected to bookmark it.

I can't recall the source too well. It was either an Arabic site or Russian one. Either way, it needs independent confirmation. But my gut tells me that it almost certainly happened. It's pretty obvious that, even well before Katrina-Gate, that morale, ESPECIALLY among Guard units, was low, and getting lower. It happened sporadically in Viet Nam. Why not in Iraq, where "morale-wise", things are a lot worse?

pnorman

[tridim]

3. Why weren't they sent home a week ago?

I bet they get shipped back to Iraq in a few months.

[obxhead]

4. yup thats how the army will help

here's your plane ticket and here's your tent.
What? Body armor, we don't supply that. Now go getcha some Iraqi's.

[Mr_Spock]

5. Looks like they did what they had to after pressure from the troops

You know this wouldn't have happened without some sort of scuffle. The brass employed by this administration would never do anything "good" or "right" otherwise...

[moodforaday]

7. kick

:kick:

[smurfygirl]

9. looking for a linky....

does anyone have the link to the story of mutiny that was posted last night....

I would really like to post it here so everyone knows what I'm talking about.....

[NYC]

10. Mutiny links:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2069256

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2069263

[Ice4Clark]

11. I remember reading prior to Katrina that many NG from LA

were at the end of their duty in Iraq. MS still had some months to go.

Here's a snip from the Washington Post today regarding the return of LA NG.

BAGHDAD, Sept. 7 -- Hundreds of Louisiana National Guard soldiers deployed in Iraq were in Kuwait on Wednesday as a first stop on the way home, where the majority of their 3,700-member brigade was likely to help with hurricane relief, U.S. military officials said.

snip> The military said separately in a statement in Baghdad that it was trying to speed transport home for the Louisiana Guard members. The entire brigade was expected to be out of Iraq by the third week of September.

snip> The brigade, which served in Baghdad, was coming to the end of its rotation, officials said.

snip> A Mississippi National Guard unit based south of Baghdad also had hundreds of members affected by the hurricane. They are not due to return until January.


So, was the result of their coming home a result of mutiny? I don't think so, but I'm sure many were quite emotional about what was happening here and were anxious to be on their way home and could have had some outbursts.

[B Calm]

12. If the LA Governor had their National Guard before the storm hit,

hard to say how many lifes could have been saved...

[Walt Starr]

13. This is a scheduled rotation

it was scheduled prior to the storm. It was scheduled long ago.

The alleged "mutiny" is nothing more than Wayne Madsen tinfoilhat nuttery.