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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:13 PM
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Shrub signed an esecutive order to pay below minimun wage to
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 11:14 PM by napi21
rebuild NO! I just heard this on Mike Malloy's show!

Shrub has suspended the law requiring contractors who are to rebuild NO to pay minimum wage!

And we wonder WHY we're having a problem fighting illegal immigration in the US?????

Hell out President thinks it's OK to exploit these workers!!!!

Edit because I forgeot to say he signed this order around 9PM tonight!
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:15 PM
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1. NOT minimum wage
Prevailing wage
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:17 PM
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5. What's the difference?
Just curious...
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clmbohdem Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:18 PM
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7. prevailing wage is the wage in that area for that job type
min wage is the lowest anyone can get paid, for anything
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:24 PM
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9. BS! Prevailing wage can be $2.00 an hour if a contractor can find
people to work for that!

That's the same crap your health insurance guys tell you when they only will pay a fraction of the cost of your treatment! "Well it's the prevailing fee!!!!!

Why do you think this won't allow below minimum wage????
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:37 AM
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12. Under the Davis-Bacon Act contractors pay journey level wages...
... at the highest rate - state or fed.

The Davis-Bacon wage determinations by state: http://www.gpo.gov/davisbacon/allstates.html


DAVIS-BACON WAGE DETERMINATION
REFERENCE MATERIAL

INTRODUCTION

THE DAVIS-BACON AND RELATED ACTS (DBRA)


The Davis-Bacon Act as amended, requires that each contract over $2,000 to which the United States or the District of Columbia is a party for the construction, alteration, or repair of public buildings or public works shall contain a clause setting forth the minimum wages to be paid to various classes of laborers and mechanics employed under the contract. Under the provisions of the Act, contractors or their subcontractors are to pay workers employed directly upon the site of the work no less than the locally prevailing wages and fringe benefits paid on projects of a similar character. The Davis-Bacon Act directs the Secretary of Labor to determine such local prevailing wage rates.

In addition to the Davis-Bacon Act itself, Congress has added prevailing wage provisions to approximately 60 statutes which assist construction projects through grants, loans, loan guarantees, and insurance. These "related Acts" involve construction in such areas as transportation, housing, air and water pollution reduction, and health. If a construction project is funded or assisted under more than one Federal statute, the Davis-Bacon prevailing wage provisions may apply to the project if any of the applicable statutes require payment of Davis-Bacon wage rates.

The geographic scope of the Davis-Bacon Act is limited, by its terms, to the 50 States and the District of Columbia. By the same token, the scope of each of the related Acts is determined by the terms of the particular statute under which the Federal assistance is provided. For example, Davis-Bacon prevailing wage provisions would apply to a construction contract located in Guam or the Virgin Islands funded under the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974, even though the Davis-Bacon Act itself does not apply to Federal construction contracts to be performed outside the 50 States and the District of Columbia.

Continued @ http://www.gpo.gov/davisbacon/referencemat.html


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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:57 AM
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14. The federal government recognition of skilled labor -
Everyone who has to go through some sort of training and certification to hold their jobs - from stock clerks who can run forklifts to crane operators, desk clerks to statistical analysts, technicians, mechanics, engineers, painters, sanitary crews, LEO's and first responders - if you have a direct government contract, you have to pay them a prevailing wage that reflects the cost of living and requirements/hazards of the job - as well as the cost of keeping the employee's training and certification up to date.

On a federal contract, if you hire an electrical technician, journeyman status, in Louisiana, you might be required to pay him or her a certain amount of money, depending on his or her job experience and training and what you're asking the employee to do. (i.e. - A bench tech on site might be worth $15 an hour, the tech that has to test and repair communications circuits in the field might be worth $22...)

Prior to awarding any major contract, the government must sign off on all wages and contractor cost projections, especially since most contracts have a timeline, tasking and worker qualifications "plugged" into the statement of work prior to letting out the bid. The government will pay the prevailing wage of any personnel identified on the estimate - it's just easier to manage a contract that way.

Without prevailing wages and designated work categories in place, an employer can (and has!) hire skilled labor that should be making $25 an hour normally at McDonald's trainee wages and pocket the difference.

Think of the profits to be made. Almost better than slave labor - certainly costs less to pick up and work a desperate, skilled temp without bennies for a few months - and get paid to do so! - than to "invest" in a skilled slave.

Haele


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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:15 PM
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2. Slave labor
They've wanted it back for a long time. Well, now they've got it.
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clmbohdem Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:15 PM
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3. This is so MEAN!!!!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:16 PM
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4. Institution of a permanent caste system
given to you by corporate globalists. They mush have grinned about Katrina.
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:11 PM
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16. "They must have grinned about Katrina." You know it.
I bet they were licking their lips and rubbing their hands together as the storm started to pound the coast. They were probably chanting "Bring it on" the whole time. I'm sure they were hugely disappointed after the storm had passed NO and the levee was still intact (at that time). That probably REALLY pissed them off. Bastards. They want to keep the wages for rebuilding NO low because no one is allowed to cash in on something like this except for them and their cronies. Note: I'm not saying those that would be earning these wages are by any means "cashing in" but you can bet that's the way the BFEE sees it.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:18 PM
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6. Shit.
Well, I guess I'm not surprised, unfortunately. Slave labor built most of the South before, and now it looks like slave labor is going to rebuild it. Damn these bastards.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:19 PM
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8. Not minimum wage
Davis Bacon Act is Prevailing wage. It is different than minimum wage. It is a Federal Wage program used on Federal Projects. The wages are much higher than minimum wage. It's still a bad thing to do. Now they will be able to get away with paying minimum wage which is a joke to start with. x(
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:16 AM
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10. LINK
Bush lifts wage rules for Katrina
President signs executive order allowing contractors to pay below prevailing wage in affected areas.
September 8, 2005: 9:42 PM EDT

source:http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/08/news/economy/katrina_wages.reut/index.htm


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush issued an executive order Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage.

In a notice to Congress, Bush said the hurricane had caused "a national emergency" that permits him to take such action under the 1931 Davis-Bacon Act in ravaged areas of Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi.

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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:19 AM
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11. your kidding me
I bet helliburton is happy though.
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sue_66 Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:48 AM
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13. WOW
Chimpy can move fast when it comes to screwing americans, but not saving them. I hate that man
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:00 AM
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15. Well, they've gotta have their priorities in order, ya know.
Profits for Halliburton - check.

Survival of the American people - not so much.

:mad:
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