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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:08 AM
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Kelly Carlson (celebrity) - about Kayne West's comments
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 05:12 AM by mandyky
Guess we have another Brittany Spears airhead type. She said " in this day and age, people don't dislike people for the color of their skin, anymore" and that what Kayne did on TV was "tacky".

I had to google her because I did not have a clue who she is - guess she plays on NipTuck on TV, Heard this on MSNBC Access.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:11 AM
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1. Wow, totally clueless.......
anyone who thinks racism is dead in this country isn't paying attention.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:12 AM
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2. I heard her too...
and thought, "How the fuck would you know what being Black is like, fuckface?"
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:23 AM
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24. Ah! So, she's NOT black!
Which I pretty much assumed since I doubt there's a lot of call for black actresses in a shallow night time soap opera about rich white people trying to "look all pretty."
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:12 AM
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3. To misquote an Arihead: "watch what you say,
'cos you're stupid."
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:15 AM
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4. I guess those monsters who killed James Byrd didn't factor in his race.
:eyes:

By the way, was this Kelly Clarkson (American Idol) or Kelly Carlson (Nip/Tuck)?
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subchicagogal Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:52 AM
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7. This was Kelly Carlson from Nip/Tuck n/t
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:58 AM
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40. Isn't Kelly Clarkson the American Idol winner?
I don't think she's on nip/tuck (Joely Richardson is the blond on Nip/Tuck)
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:00 PM
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42. Oh..looked it up on IMDB, she's Kimber
she should keep to playing a coke snorting porn star on nip/tuck
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:21 AM
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5. yeah, she is flat out gorgeous .......
evidently she doesn't have much going on upstairs. I heard her say she would never watch "Fahrenheit 911" either. She said some things stir up too much trouble and attention for her taste. I don't think she's really Republican or anything, she just is clueless and insulated, you know? Most people don't read several papers a day and books on all kinds of subjects. They just don't do that. So they hear something or see something and they have a knee jerk reaction to it. Most people who don't believe racism exists has never been around enough minorities to even know what's going on. She's probably lived an insulated life from all of that, so she thinks because she hasn't ever seen it, plus she doesn't have a problem with any race that it must not exist. Lots of people think like that. They just don't know better. But, Kanye West was hurting. You could see the man was in pain, you just can't fault somebody too much for feeling that way and saying something like that. I don't think it was tacky, it probably wasn't the most PC time or place to do it, I liked it because I'm not a big fan of Bush, but I can see how people could be put off by it. The man was in some real pain though. I can see where he's coming from. Now, she probably believes that Bush has our best interests at heart and tried his best to respond to the disaster, most Americans want to believe our leaders have good hearts like that. I can't fault her for feeling that way and being naive. I don't like what she said though. I think she doesn't really get it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:15 PM
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55. I agree about West
I saw the video and you can see in his face that he's upset and ready to pop. That's probably what happened. That happens to me all the time. Sometimes I get so angry I just pop and don't care anymore about what I say and around whom.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:23 PM
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60. "flat out gorgeous"...
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 03:24 PM by Flubadubya
followed by a very long apologia on her behalf?

Someone's prejudice is showing, that's for sure! She needs to grow up? :rofl: :eyes:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:44 PM
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64. no apology for her
I just don't condemn people for saying certain things. I just think she doesn't know better. Like I had no problem with Britney Spears saying that she trusts Bush. She doesn't know what she's talking about, but that's what most people want to believe, that our leaders should be trusted. I didn't condemn Kanye West for what he said either. I pretty much agree with him, of course, but if I didn't I wouldn't hate his guts for saying it. I actually if another gave more of an apologia for him than anything. No prejudice whatsoever. I can see why Kelly Carlson may feel that way, the same as I can see why Kanye West may have felt the way he did. See, the only prejudice here is the one you had against me just because I said she was gorgeous. She is. I also happen to have read several interviews of hers so I probably know more about her opinions on stuff than you do. So I gave my assessment of it. There you go. She probably does need to grow up and become better informed. I'm not going to hate somebody for being ignorant. It doesn't matter what they look like either.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:51 PM
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67. she's not gorgeous at all.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:21 AM
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6. Like, Ohmigod! Political Opinions from Musicians? How Toootally Tacky!
"Who does he think he is, like, Mick Hendrix or some hippie or something? Furrrrr Shure, no corporations are going to want to sponsor that guy or put him in, like, a pepsi commercial NOW!

Tsk. His managers, media promotions team and image consultants have TOTALLY gotta be pissed, ya know?"

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:11 AM
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8. Glad you identified her as a celebrity. I've never heard of her
LOL I'm glad
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:27 AM
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9. The blonde chick from nip/tuck is giving racism lessons to Kanye
:wtf:

I don't think I need to say what is wrong with this picture.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:45 AM
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13. She probably equates people having to endure racial inequality...
with those who, like herself, have to endure "Dumb Blonde" jokes on a daily basis.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:31 AM
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10. She needs to get out more.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:31 AM
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11. I'd never heard of Kanye before his little outburst! Now I think he's
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 06:32 AM by Henny Penny
absolutely brilliant.... just the kind of tonic those of us who are beginning to feel like slipping totally into despair need!

Lets have more Kanyes and less Brittanys please!!

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:54 AM
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15. Kanye remixed: "George Bush Don't Like Black People" --------- > MP3
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 07:38 AM by bpilgrim
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:21 AM
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20. I didn't see the MP3.
Just some photos - good ones, I might add. (Although "good" is probably not the appropriate word here.)
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:39 AM
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25. D'oh! fixed
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:01 AM
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27. ... sorry "fewer Brittanys" :-)
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:10 PM
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44. You not knowing
Who Kanye is, in all likelihood has more to do with not knowing contemporary popular music, more so than his lack of celebrity. Kanye's CD came out on August 30th and had 1.7 million pre-orders. The last 2 weeks he's had the #1 album in America and will likely continue that streak for another week. Those of us on DU who follow contemporary music, and popular culture a little more are pretty much all familiar with Kanye.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:15 PM
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45. you are right, i'm clueless re contemporary music... and a lot more beside
and don't worry I know it....

My point was more, someone unbiased by already being a fan, a neutral observer, could watch his impassioned outburst and be very impressed by it. And think that guy has the guts to speak the truth, thank God someone has!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:16 PM
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56. Oh yes definitley
I keep up with all that and even like rap. I just have never heard Kayne's music but I've seen him around and am familiar with who he is.
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CitrusLib Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:26 PM
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61. I'd never heard of him before I picked up a Time magazine...
...in my doctor's office two weeks ago. He's on the cover (at least I think it was Time - I know it wasn't an entertainment magazine).

I haven't been a fan of hip-hop since gangster rap usurped 80's dance music, but the article on Mr. West is making me want to listen to his album.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:37 AM
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12. Well, that'll ruin my Nip/Tuck viewing experience.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:51 AM
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14. Thank Goddess! I like Kelly CLARKSON, and thought that;s who
Said this.... she has always come across as very progressive in interviews, so I was WTF?
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LeftyDarthBrodie Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:08 AM
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28. I was also very nervous that the beautiful
Kelly Clarkson said this. But luckily it wasn't her.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:47 AM
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36. It's always so depressing when you find out a celeb you
Like is a Freeper. My partner LOVES Fred & Ginger movies, but gave all hers away when I told her Ginger was a RWer....
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:09 PM
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51. I think a lot of the RWers...
that used to be Republican might be reconsidering these days. These are NOT Republicans in power, although that's what they call themselves. These are neo-conservatives. Never forget that.

My mom used to be Republican, and she has experienced a severe change of heart the last few years. Ginger Rogers has been dead for years. I'd give her the same benefit of the doubt.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:19 PM
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58. Exactly
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 03:20 PM by FreedomAngel82
My mother used to be a republican but thanks to George Bush she doesn't like republican politicians anymore. I remember earlier this year when Arnie was having problems in California I told my mother about it and how Arnold was treating nurses and teachers and she said "that's how all republicans are." :crazy: She used to really like our Congressman (Zach Wamp) but after the Terri Schavio nonsense she told me she was voting straight democratic next year. :wow: He voted for that shit and I Emailed him pissed off and he just replied how he'd always vote "on the side of life". :eyes: My mother did vote for John Kerry last year but she still voted for the republican Congressman. She told my now mayor back in April she was no longer a republican and I was surprised. So thanks Bush and neocons! Now to work on my dad.....
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LeftyDarthBrodie Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:18 PM
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57. I don't like Clarkson's music
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 03:19 PM by LeftyDarthBrodie
and their is only one entertainer whose work I won't pay to view/listen/read because of their politics and that is Mel Gibson. It's one thing to be a right winger, it's a whole other issue when you are a Holocaust denier/Nazi sympathizer (the two are no different).
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:28 PM
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62. It's not Clarkson...
It's Kelly Carlson. She plays Kimber on Nip/Tuck.

FSC
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LeftyDarthBrodie Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:42 PM
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75. I know
I was saying in my posts that I was happy it wasn't Clarkson.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:59 PM
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47. Me three!
Kelly Clarkson is a bit silly, but thank goodness she isn't saying stupid shit like this!
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:59 AM
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16. the name is Kelly Clarkson and i figured she would say as much
she has been made what she is, she bows before the alter of those who created her. i would imagine she has a publicist with her at all times to approve of what she says.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:04 AM
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17. No it was Kelly Carlson
I looked her up at IMDB, same picture as on MSNBC
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:12 AM
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18. oh, lol, i'm sorry
sorry about that, i have never heard of kelly carlson, i wonder what movie she has been in recently that makes her a person of interest, she seems like she has only been in a few movies?

anyway, sorry about that.

the corrector becomes the correctee

:hi:
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:10 PM
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52. She's on the show Nip/Tuck.
She plays a real skank.

FSC
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:49 AM
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38. Deleted
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 11:50 AM by LostinVA
'Cause McSheepster said they were mistaken!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:17 AM
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:22 AM
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21. That's what she thinks racism is?
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 07:22 AM by alcibiades_mystery
People "disliking" other People because of the color of their skin?

Ay yay yay. :eyes:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:22 AM
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22. So enlighten me - Is Kelly Carlson black?
Because if she's not, then who gives a shit what some 3rd rate actress on a banal cable tv show thinks?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:42 PM
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46. Yeah, if blonde and white is the "new Black". nt
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:53 PM
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70. Just what I figured.
What a fucking bitch.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:23 AM
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23. Obviously she has led a very sheltered life.



Kind of like Judge Roberts. He went to private schools all his life and has no concept of the real world other than what Mommy and Daddy told him about.


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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:48 AM
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26. Oh, well then. If Kelly Carlson says so, it MUST be true.
Because celebrities know everything!

:eyes:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:12 AM
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29. lol.....having to get D list celebrities to counter Kanye.
what a dip.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:14 AM
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30. celebrity?
Never heard of her.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:15 AM
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31. TV's Kelly Carlson declares Racism dead. Minorities rejoice. EOM
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:54 AM
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32. Wow...I want to live in Kelly Carlson world
Apparently, according to her beautiful mind, racism no longer exists! Yippeee!


What complete fucking fool. Must be nice to live in lala land...:dunce: :eyes:
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:04 AM
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33. what a dumb fuck! sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut, Kelly.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:46 PM
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65. yeah, if you don't know what you're talking about
it's best to keep quiet. That's her biggest fault here, she opened her mouth about something she has no clue about. A pretty bad and tasteless move.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:10 AM
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34. Hmmm okay
So there isn't any racism in the world and she doesn't feed the machine that tells people they aren't perfect the way they are!
Nose jobs for everyone! Happy Happy Happy!
Are we sure she isn't some sort of illegitimate family member of one the Bush's that they failed to have aborted?
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:11 AM
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35. Oof. I thought you said Kelly Clarkson.
Whom I like, if not exactly love and adore. Who the hell is Kelly Carlson?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:48 AM
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37. I have no idea who this person is. What makes her a
celebrity?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:54 AM
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39. Never heard of her. And will avoid her in the future, too.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:58 AM
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41. What a dumbshit.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:00 PM
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43. Uh, yeah ... racism's totally a thing of the past
It's especially a thing of the past two weeks ...
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:01 PM
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48. Yeah, and the Superdome was full of people who looked like her.
Idiot.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:02 PM
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49. How the hell would *she* know? She's a blonde white girl!
:eyes:

I hate when people don't know what they're talking about.

Guess I won't be watching nip/tuck!
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:04 PM
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50. wtf planet is she living on?
good grief!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 01:05 AM
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76. Planet Beverly Hills
I know more than a few Los Angelenos in 'the business' who are right along with her -- no time for things like Iraq, Bush's crimes and idiocy, and all that, because the only news that matters is in Variety. A lot of showbiz types in Hollyweird really do seem to believe that nothing matters unless it's showbiz. I'm related to some.

I'm talking mostly about the behind-the-scenes people who make the films, TV, and music happen. Very, very, very shallow...collectively, the worst distillation of America's obsession with image and the triumph of form over function.
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Arbiter Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:11 PM
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53. She must have a lot of air in her head.
How can she be so moronic to not think racism isn't happening? Hasn't she been watching the news since the hurricane?

Geeez. :argh:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:11 PM
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54. Oy!
I guess not in her reality.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:20 PM
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59. Nice Bubble you're living in Kelly, comfy next to * ?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:33 PM
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63. Here's a few pics of her.....
As adorable as she is, I'm going to go out on a limb and say she probably isn't the best intellectual voice to listen to on minority issues. What's weird is I know a girl who could be twins with her. She was so cute and personable it should have been illegal, haha.

I read a few Kelly Carlson interviews, she seems nice, but she says some things that are ignorant. For example, she said: " I didn't see Fahrenheit 911 and I never would. Why create a war within the United States?" I take that as she has no curiousity. She just believes "America is the greatest" and never has ever thought to question the status quo or challenge authority. She isn't pro-war, nor is she anti-war. She doesn't have a true interest in any details, she's just content going along her merry little way. Too many people are apathetic like that about meaningful issues.



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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:48 PM
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66. On second thought, I agree with everything she says...
in fact, I want to discuss her amazing ideas over coffee... at my place.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:52 PM
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68. hahaha
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:55 PM
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71. And doesn't care about anyone but herself.
Sorry, but she looks like a hag in the first picture and the second picture doesn't even come close to resembling the woman in the first picture. Perhaps Kim Cattrell was her stand in.

Airbrush - how would we live without it?
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:00 PM
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73. ha ha
She doesn't have a true interest in any details, she's just content going along her merry little way.

Sounds like our little Georgie
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:56 PM
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69. What is nip/tuck?
Is it a cable show?

Seems like they're dragging the bottom of the barrel to bring out someone to debate West's heart wrenching comments. Especially someone that very few people know that exists.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:57 PM
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72. Yep we haven't had racism since the civil war
don't you know.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:06 PM
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74. What colour is the sky in her world??
:freak:
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