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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:34 AM
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Just when you thought your job was jeopardized, or really stunk......
These guys take the cake:

In July, Uttar Pradesh Eunuchs Association, in Lucknow, India, demanded that the district magistrate and the senior superintendent of police order cops to begin exposing fake eunuchs by lifting their skirts to verify their status. Charlatans, according to the group, deprive real eunuchs of "legitimate" income (a large part of which derives from eunuchs' entering places of business and private parties, exposing themselves and otherwise being obnoxious, and demanding a fee to leave).

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I am supposing this is a lifetime vocation....:crazy:


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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:42 AM
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1. Not to be confused with the Uttar Pradesh Unix Association
Though I HAVE known some sysops who 'entered places of business and private parties, exposed themselves and otherwise been obnoxious, and demanded a fee to leave'. But usually only at Christmas parties.


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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:47 AM
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2. hahahaha! that was a good one...
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:54 AM
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3. *lol* i know it sounds crazy....
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 07:54 AM by MsTryska
but they have a legitimate beef.

the Hijras are a special caste and really the only wya they make money is buy visiting weddings and offering blessings to children.

they pay a horrific price for this "honor" (many are not voluntarily castrated), and for soemone who hasn't paid the price to literally take the food from their mouth, is definitely unfair.


i'm not sure about going around and pulling up men's saris to verify their status tho.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:05 AM
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4. Weird!
> the Hijras are a special caste

It's really not the sort of thing that you'd expect to be hereditary ...

:crazy:
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:12 AM
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5. it's not hereditary.....
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:14 AM by MsTryska
but they do sort of adopt young boys in.

the sad thing is that sometimes the poos will "sell" their sons off to those who would castrate them and force them to become Hijra.


here's soem info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(India)

http://androgyne.0catch.com/hijrax.htm

in a way it's interesting to me that Hindu society sort of codified a place for the transgendered in society - and ironically that their "duties" mirror what many transgendered do here in the US.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:14 PM
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8. Couple of things missing here...(no pun intended)...
:evilgrin:

First off, WHY would anyone think this is a good way to make money????

Second, how can one justify emasculating another and making thier lives horrendous after said emasculation?????


Just what the hell is the matter w/people like this? If this were anything about female genital mutilation, the world would be up in arms!!!!!

This just baffles me....and the whole "cultural" thing won't cut it.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:37 AM
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9. well for the first question......
do you mean those that are already Hijra? or people who would sell their sons into it?


For the people who are alreayd hijra - it's no different than drag queens and prostitutes in the US - they make money for the same reasons. (well maybe not the same reasons as people saving up for their operations).

for the people who would sell their kids - well there are people who would and have sold their kids regardless of gender into slavery, prositution, hired help, all sorts of things. Don't undereastimate the logic that would make someone desperately poor (or perhaps better yet, desperately in need of money)do things that they do.

As for how it sits on their conscience - i have no idea. I can't comprehend that part.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:31 AM
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6. No. They DON'T have a legitimate beef.
:evilgrin:
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:38 AM
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7. man - i knew i should
have put a "no pun intended" next to that line.....
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