Honore: No embed reporters allowed in recovery operation.

[Be Brave]

C'mon, there must be a way to both have respect for the dead and have a reporter there.

[Ms. Clio]

1. Oh, no, surely everybody's hero didn't say such a thing?

Shit.

[Be Brave]

2. He said it several times during the just-concluded press conf. n/t

[maine_raptor]

8. Methinks the body count is going to be a might low

betcha there will be a lot of "missing victims" and a lot of "midnight burials".

[Ms. Clio]

10. Exactly ---- they don't do civilian body counts in Iraq, either

What a coincidence.

[napi21]

3. I agree with him I don't think they should be televised either.

If you have ever seen a body that has been in water for 5-10 days, or even just dead in 90+ heat and humidity, you'll understand why I say that!

[Ms. Clio]

9. I want to know how many people were killed by BushCo.

[xultar]

5. Would you want to be informed of a loved one's death by seeing them

pull the body out of the house on CNN?

What you don't have a heart?

[Ms. Clio]

12. That's not why this is being done

[xultar]

23. OK so why is it. Since you appear to know.

[Ms. Clio]

26. I'm not the only one who "appears to know"----it's a cover-up

I'm sorry that there really aren't any heroes in this horror except ordinary people like the kid who stole the school bus or the guys from Duke.

[ohio_liberal]

24. I'll betcha anything it's not his call

n/t

[Ms. Clio]

27. Yeah, sure, it's always somebody else's fault

[xultar]

4. How would you feel seeing your home and them pull a body out

on the news?

I don't know. I think I'd wanna know first before seeing them pull a body out of my house.

[goclark]

7. They could still have a pool of reporters with no cameras

[xultar]

25. I would agree to that as long as they weren't allowed to file stories

after the families were notified.

But you know. I don't think they would hold their stories.

[Be Brave]

13. Good points both (posts #3 and #4). I think it's a hard call.

I guess I just don't want the nation to forget what a horrific tragedy this is. Having a reporter present doesn't necessarily mean having a camera there. Just an independent witness to the events.

[cynatnite]

6. He mentioned a web site with photos of the dead

He wished it would be taken down.

He strikes me as a no-nonsense kind of guy with no love for the press. He's old school military and completely professional.

I like and respect him.

[Skidmore]

11. And no one stood up and said that they weren't hired to be

embeds but their job was as journalists? The press sets itself up to be ridiculed.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. For those who want to see pictures of the dead

Then you might want to take a look at this website with pictures of the people we've killed in Iraq. If you can handle these images and if you think the survivors of this disaster can handle pictures like this of their loved ones being broadcast on National TV then fine, but bring a very strong stomach with you first.

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album32

[Ms. Clio]

16. I don't want to see pictures, I want witnesses, and their written words

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. Dupe post

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. That that is a different matter entirely

and needs to be addressed.

Keep in mind that people are going to notice when they can't find grandma or Uncle Joe or their neighbor who lived next door for 30 years. The truth of how many actually died will be very hard to hide when this all shakes out.

[neweurope]

22. I totally agree with you. Witnessing is the point, not gruseome

pictures.

------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[maxsolomon]

17. then tell the loved ones not to look

but i want every GOP voter to look. i want the Clockwork Orange technique used on them till they vomit.

and then i want them shown footage of victim's pets being shot.

censorship of this type is not acceptable. yet the media will roll over again.

[DoYouEverWonder]

20. How do you propose that they avoid these images

Never look at TV again while they hang out in shelters with nothing else to do?

Get real.

[maxsolomon]

28. i am real

we're talking about incredibly long odds of

#1. a person watching the specific channel at the specific moment that it shows a dead relative's body.
#2. that body being recognizable. the MSM is really really good at editing & censoring everything else, why couldn't a digital blur be put over the faces of the dead, or shoot them from an angle that does not identify?
#3. the person being offended by seeing that relative's body, rather than overcome with grief, or relief at finally knowing. it is not a foregone conclusion that they would be angry.


versus

shoving their hypocrisy back in the face of every uncaring, selfish bush voter who'd rather not be reminded of the consequences of their votes over the last 25 years. just like i want dead iraqis, maimed iraqi children, & dead american soldiers on tv. it will turn the public against the administration, and the GOP. just like it did in vietnam.

the truth hurts. i want it to hurt america. not looking doesn't make it any less true. and not looking & approving makes you culpable.

[Spazito]

15. I have to say I am really torn on this one...

On the one hand, I would not want to see my loved one's dead body on television or in the papers so, to me that point is valid.

On the other hand, what's to say this move isn't to try and hide the actual number of dead to help protect bush's butt and my trust factor is below nil at this point.

I did watch the press conference with the Vice Admiral and got a sense of a person, finally, with the skills and leadership to actually do the job on the ground in NO but only time will tell if he is a figurehead or a real can-do guy.

I have no doubt this post is as confusing as I am confused, lol.

[oasis]

21. What General Honore says goes without question.Why do you think the media

has been building him up?

[natrat]

29. HONORORE; JUST ANOTHER CORRUPT BASTARD

sorry for shouting but the designated hero is just another piece of shit