They are stealing our country!

[bigbrother05]

This is beginning to look like the take over of Iraq. With the major players in NO now military, a provisional government is being established. This misAdministration is retreating to DC, the "Green Zone", where all access to the ruling class is limited and closely guarded. This is Fortress Amerika, the 60's on some bad acid, man. Maybe the revolution isn't being televised, but it's sure being web cast.

By delaying relief efforts, the populace was forced to react for survival. Then the Feds came in to take over, just like Bremmer in Iraq. The one thing they missed, was the blatant incompetence of Brown and Chertoff. The military folks have taken charge in order to be able to demonstrate a veneer of efficiency, but in typical Bush dumb luck, that only allows them to paint any criticism as not supporting the troops (and we know how effective that meme has been). What we have now is de factor martial law in a major US city that just happens to control major portions of our commerce and industry.

Remember, he's the War President, but it's a war of the classes, a breakdown of our entire political system. The bastards are taking away with force what they can't steal at the ballot box.

[lizlib]

1. maybe iraq was the testing ground

before they took over the U.S.A.

[bigbrother05]

2. They just get bolder

Only three more years to set the stage to cancel the Constitution.

Welcome to DU!

[Opusnone]

12. Yeah, great job over there Bremmy!

HELP ME MEL GIBSON! HELP ME!

[Atman]

3. I posted a similar rant yesterday...no responses. But...

WHERE IS ARUBA GIRL?

Maybe the subject is too heady, but I agree with you completely. Here is what I wrote yesterday, which meshes with what you say...

I don't know where I read it, and unfortunately, bookmarks -- thousands of 'em -- are about the only thing on my computer which didn't survive a recent hard crash. Anyway, in the article I read, one of the omnipresent think tankers was pointing out that the mission BushCo is on is massive in scale, and that is the primary reason he never backs down, never admits mistakes, never waivers...he/they know what they are doing is so grandiose in scale that it will take a long time, and -- this is the part that stood out most in my mind -- that all major societal shifts in history came with a certain cost in pain and suffering among the masses. He can't back down, because it's nowhere near over yet, at least in PNAC's collective mind.

Be it America after the Great Depression, or whatever other historical comparison you can conjur, large numbers of people migrate, suffer, die, but eventually adapt to the new reality which emerges. A government cannot give an address saying "I am changing the world next week. By Thursday, I want everybody to be enrolled in job re-training, because I'm shipping all your work to India." All Bush can do is smile, pretend everything is fine, and perhaps do something to mitigate the suffering.

Obviously, this is where PNAC's plan fails, as they've promoted as their figurehead/puppet a man so completely devoid of ability to show compassion, his reckless arrogance just might actually turn out being their undoing.

We can only hope. And hope that the undoing comes before more of the "suffering" component of BushCo's social cleansing claims the lives of more innocents.

[bigbrother05]

6. Bringing in Thad Allen clinched it

Don't think there is any denying it now. Just like Mein Kampf, but they laid it out with PowerPoint slides. They create their own history and while the 'reality-based' folks try to react, they move to the next reality.

[Emit]

9. I've been thinking these same thoughts, as have

several people I know who have called me, out of the blue, recently.

Not to be alarmist, but the overall similarity with what you have posted here, and which is somewhat what the OP touches upon, is that this feels really big, and that this is why they so blithely continue on about their business: that the pain and suffering they've caused or contributed to is part of the sacrifice the masses have to endure in order to get to the end goal (Machiavellian, really as in 'the end justifies the means' and a kind of 'tough love' authoritarian aproach).

As for the goal, I can not even imagine, with the exception of various articles and books I've read, all of which have various goals, but all of which call for a huge change; a huge disrupt of status quo.

I can't help but feel that they think they are 'cleansing America' or 'cleansing the World' and that they've had a huge plan in the making for some time.

When I say 'they' by the way, I am referring to numerous groups that have had ample time to coalesce, including but not limited to the religious right fanatics, neo-cons, big corporations, elitists, etc. (for some info, see: Tentacles of Rage, http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Republican-Propaganda1sep04.htm , for what I'm getting at here--it's just one example of things I've read regarding the reach of Bush & Co.)

All that, coupled with others' speculation about Peak oil being the underlying motivation for a lot of what we are witnessing with this (mis)administration has left me feeling that there is something extremely large happening here, right now, with this.

As the OP pointed out, too, "dumb luck" on the part of Bush & Co.--but was their delay in responding purposeful here? Am I going nuts or are we just witnessing what kind of disastrous effects mother nature and inept administrations and 'pwesidents' are capable of having on the human race.

Do you have a link to your original thread or the particular article that your excerpts are referring to?

[bigbrother05]

14. No specific links

Just the cumulative dread that grips my gut. Watching them announce Thad Allen, my first reaction was a satisfaction that they were forced to pull Brown. But then there was the creeping recognition that led to the post. I tend to be an optimist in the better nature of people in general, but the Endtimer/Dominionist/Straussian nature of this misAdministration recognizes no boundaries.

Have seen this before on a limited basis, where the accumulation of 'victories' only emboldens people and they feel they have no boundaries. Most people have an inner sense of their limits and a basic recognition of what is right and proper for a greater good, but where people have grown to feel entitled and that they are beyond the usual norms, great harm can be done to anyone that gets in their way. Was able to marshal the forces of a diverse group of good people to fight a local tyrant, but it took several years and intensive efforts to finally shed enough light to turn the tide.

I have watched (in some ways like Forrest Gump, not quite part of it, but connected) this man, Bush, grow into what we see now. From growing up (I'm a couple of years younger) in the same era, to working in the oil business in the 70' & 80's (including time in Midland), to political action in the 90's in Texas (actually had a conversation with the Gov), and numerous other things have made this crystallize for me. Know how to fight them and know there are lots of good people that will never give up, but the scope is so much bigger. I hope it's not too late to save this generation from them, but we must, it's the only way.

[Cats Against Frist]

10. Very, very astute.

This is no ordinary "idealism," with which we're dealing, either. As the poster above states, they're "history's actors" and, perhaps, the most post-modern-ly, dangerously self-aware ideologues in history.

[enid602]

4. green zone

I think Crawford (or at least, *'s spread) is the green zone. DC is Sadr City.

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Again? They keep doing that!

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[FreedomAngel82]

7. They stole our country in 2000 hon

[Double T]

8. And NOW it is time to take our country back.......

and drive the neocon lemmings into the sea.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

11. New Orleans will be taken away from its citizens with claims of

eminent domain, and then will be divvied up like Baghdad was by Bush and his cronies. Remember Allbaugh the former FEMA director who went to do this in Iraq? He might show up in New Orleans.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

13. "Stealing"?? Try using the word "stolen". Done deal. All done.

[Land Shark]

15. The Delay MEANS even Democrats start begging for military control....

[Emit]

16. Maybe the revolution isn't being televised, but it's sure being web cast.

Right before our very eyes...