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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:22 PM
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Someone talk to me about the impending water shortage.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:31 PM by tjdee
What's up with that? Can someone direct me to some links, or some information? I'm seeing a lot, but I'm not sure when (woops, WHERE) to start as far as why there's a problem, etc.

Seeing the death water from New Orleans pumped back into Lake Ponchartrain makes me feel a little sick.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:28 PM
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1. Our military was quietly put into Paraguay recently.
Sun Myung Moon owns over a million acres there and all the land above the Guarani aquifer, one of the world's largest aquifers.

Last May I posted that Gorbachev was at an event with a friend of mine and said that the UPCOMING water wars will be worse than the oil wars.

Remember that ENRON was working on securing water sources in India and Pakistan over the last 6 years at least. (I always thought that Daniel Pearl might have learned something about that.)

Anyway, you can google Guarani Moon and Paraguay and it will be a start.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:33 PM
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5. Moon AND Enron?
I can tell I'm in for an uplifting read.
:scared:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:20 PM
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15. Moon (thinks he's the Second Coming of Christ) and Bush Family
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:45 AM
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17. No surprise - Moon and Enron BOTH went into Argentina through Poppy Bush
and a few years later, the country was bankrupt.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:29 PM
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2. This is a great site about privitazion
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:38 PM
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8. Just started looking around there, thanks...
Nice site.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:29 PM
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3. The WTO is forcing 3rd world countries to "privatize" that is sell
to corporations the water rights and distribution systems in order to get loans. They have started doing the same thing here in the USA. Nothing lives without water, he who controls water control life.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:35 PM
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6. Who is privatizing in the USA?
Are you saying that someone has to sell their water rights to corporations in this country? Are we talking states and stuff?

Just misunderstood that bit of your post.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:30 PM
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4. This is mentioned in the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman
by John Perkins also
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:35 PM
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7. Thank you!
I think I'd heard of that book before, but it went down the memory hole.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:41 PM
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9. Blue Gold
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:52 PM
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10. Well
As you know everyone needs water to live.

So the profits from water are enormous and huge if it is declared a commodity.

Now the largest body of fresh water in the world is the Great Lakes in North America, which have been shared by Canada and the United States. It has been administered under the International Joint Commission(IJC) between the two countries.

Well, just this year, the US decided to scrap this agreement by not adhering to it. So now the precedence has been set for others to take this to the next stage.

Some references about what is afoot and going on.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/water/devilslake.html

http://www.democracyctr.org/bechtel/index.htm
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:54 PM
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11. The water war
will make the oil war look like child's play...
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:58 PM
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12. Leave Lake Superior alone
hands off.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:04 PM
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13. It's Too Late n/t
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Branjor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:10 PM
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14. If they were able to....
they'd privatize air.
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buzzsaw_23 Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:24 PM
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16. Read this Book- "Water Wars" by Vandana Shiva
and read what was suggested in post#9 by Minstrel Boy. You will then have most of what you need to know on this. You'll see repeating patterns everywhere.

A Sample:
Water Wars

by Vandana Shiva

South End Press, 2002

 

pxiv
Destruction of water resources and of forest catchments and aquifers is a form of terrorism. Denying poor people access to water by privatizing water distribution or polluting wells and rivers is also terrorism. In the ecological context of water wars, terrorists are not just those hiding in the caves of Afghanistan. Some are hiding in corporate boardrooms and behind the free trade rules of the WTO, North American Free Trade Agreement (AFTA), and Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA). They are hiding behind the privatization conditionalities of the IMF and World Bank. By refusing to sign the (Kyoto protocol, President Bush is committing an act of ecological terrorism on numerous communities who may very well be wiped off the earth by global warming. In Seattle, the WTO was dubbed the "World Terrorist Organization" by protestors because its rules are denying millions the right to a sustainable livelihood.

Greed and appropriation of other people's share of the planet's precious resources are at the root of conflicts, and the root of terrorism. When President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair announced that the goal of the global war on terrorism is the defense of the American and European "way of life," they are declaring a war against the planet-its oil, its water, its biodiversity. A way of life for the 20 percent of the earth's people ~ who use 80 percent of the planet's resources will dispossess 80 percent of its people of their just share of resources and eventually destroy the planet. We cannot survive as a species if greed is privileged and protected and the economics of the greedy set the rules for how we live and die.

Although two - thirds of our planet is water, we face an acute water shortage. The water crisis is the most pervasive, most severe, and most invisible dimension of the ecological devastation of the earth. In 1998, 28 countries experienced water stress or scarcity. This number is expected to rise to 56 by 2025. Between 1990 and 2025 the number of people living in countries without adequate water is projected to rise from 131 million to 817 million. India is supposed to fall into the water stress category long before 2025.

A country is said to be facing a serious water crisis when available water is lower than 1,000 cubic meters per person per year. Below this point, the health and economic development of a nation are considerably hampered. When the annual water availability per person drops below 500 cubic meters, people's survival is grievously compromised. In 1951, the average water availability in India was 3,450 cubic meters per person per year. By the late 1990s, it had fallen to 1,250 cubic meters. By 2050, it is projected to fall to 760 cubic meters. Since 1970, the global per capita water supply has declined by 33 percent. The decline does not result from population growth alone; it is exacerbated by excessive water use as well. During the last century, the rate of water withdrawal has exceeded that of population growth by a factor of two and one-half.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Vandana_Shiva/Water_Wars_VShiva.html
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