the newsweeklies

[nadinbrzezinski]

so I don't buy them, but I leafhed through them today... looking for photos of dead people... why I fear they will try to hide them. For the most part they all had them, except news and world report... even People magazine had a photo, in fact the most graphic, a photo of a body floating in the water.

Thought you may want to know.

[applegrove]

1. We don't need to see dead bodies. But we need journalists to see

it forthemselves and report back. I would imagine the newsweeklies will be filled with excellent editorial comment for once.

Buy the newsweeklies. Who care if they show the dead, just so long as they report the facts.. and have access to it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Unfortunately they need to show bodies

dead bodies, for the full horror to sink in

[applegrove]

3. People who were not affected by pictures of seniors & babies in

horrible conditions will not be affected by the dead bodies. It all looks the same to them.

Like Karen Hughes tried to imply and will teach the wingnut patsies ... "the world is upset by the lawlessness shown on the TV".

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Yup - that's right folks. The whole world's editorial comment matched with exactly the worst fears of Bush's base and they saw nothing else. The whole big world reflects back your pain at having to live near lawless people. Nothing else - no other thoughts - took place. Only those thoughts Bush insists his base has - exist on the planet.

:sarcasm:

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. tonight at the bookstore people were looking at them

looking at them, crying and talking a little treason in between the lattes, the soccer game and the good jaming... they were talking revolution... this is a Republican town and that was a bookstore in a very Middle Class to upper Class neighborhood... I heard a peep defending the Emperor...

And yes the photo of the body floating got the most attention, like a bad crash on the freeway, people pointed to it. When I left I asked, you selling many of them? The answer, they are taking them as losses, people are sharing them, some are selling them, but mostly people are looking, and crying... so I would not bet all repukes are Laura and Barbara Bush or Tom Delay... in fact a couple were talking about the let them eat cake moment...

Granted they may have thoght shoot it could be us...

[applegrove]

5. Are you saying that people angry at Bush have a fascination with

death?

I'm sorry but that if a freeper-point. That is something Rove would put out. Where did you get this idea that people concerned with the WH policies of letting things happen - no matter who gets hurt - are somehow watching trainwrecks.

Like John Kerry is a coward

Hillary is cold

Nancy Pelosi is dishonest for repeating talk in the WH meeting

And now people upset over what has happened to the meaning of their country are "loving looking at dead bodies"?

All of it projection.

I'm sorry my friend. That is not what is happening. To perceive people beginning to talk & think & feel ... is watching people talk & think & feel. That is what real people do when faced with horrific events, and a really bad hurricane.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. no, no, disaster 101

when you have a bad crash or a disaster people for some reason, no politics involved, are fascinated and horrified by death. Same thing happen in war. It helps to bring the reality to the person watching this. A description is not enough and this helps people to accept the reality that something terrible just happened. This happens in every disaster, it is like the collective getting into touch with the death and starting the grieving process.

Once people see them, they get the horror and realize what happened, why they are not showing the caskets or the photos of the death from Iraq... they have short circuited that process and will try their hardest to hide the dead from Katrina, for that reason... and why we need them in the papers, as horrific as they are.

In a pre photographic society you had art replacing the photos, same function.

[applegrove]

7. I'm not sure I know what you are saying. Death is a part of this story.

As long as journalists can see it - and report on it - that is what matters.

Along with every other aspect - the truth needs to be told.

I'm not sure I could stare out at people drinking lattes and looking at the news and decided exactly what was up with them.

If you define the news a pictures of death..I think you could step back a bit and define it once again as news.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. I used to work in EMS, and this is part of the beast

(to be specific the Mexican Red Cross)

the true horror did not hit many of these people until they saw the photos... so they did while drinking lattes, they talked to each other and at times perfect strangers

Now there are two things happening here

1.- the horrific nature of the disaster

2.- the realization that we are having foreigners helping us... this is hitting many Americans like a bag of bricks and they are making a second connection. We are not a superpower no more... I heard Conservatives saying that today.

So those photos do serve a role, even if you personally cannot see why... and just the words are not sufficient to drive the horror... as horrific as this image is, I am hoping they do publish a photo of a mass grave, which is coming, but they will do all they can to avoid that particular photo... too horrific. Oh adn this is not political, but the country needs that to help in the grieving process.

[applegrove]

9. Oh that is so wrong. The outrage is waning now that families are at

least safe.