Why Aren't the NRA & Ted NUGENT Raising Hell over Gun Confiscations?

[UTUSN]

They have told us for generations that the rationale for their 2nd Amendment adoration was to resist an oppressive government, nevermind that their pieces would be no match for a government armed with WMD, and nevermind that the 2nd Amendment has to do with militias.

Presumably, the "cold, dead hands" refers only to those who can privately pay for security personnel to guard their property, as opposed to destitute minorities members.

And why are gun wingnuts so fanatically loyal to Shrub, under whose Watch this is happening----oh, I forgot, nothing is ever Shrub's responsibility. Charlton?----oh, there's nobody to answer questions.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/national/nationalspec...

NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 8 - Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.

No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns or other firearms, said P. Edwin Compass III, the superintendent of police. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.

But that order apparently does not apply to hundreds of security guards hired by businesses and some wealthy individuals to protect property. The guards, employees of private security companies like Blackwater, openly carry M-16's and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said that he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.

Nearly two weeks after the floods began, New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers. While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and the police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman said.

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[rfranklin]

1. Because we're talking about disarming angry poor and black folks...

Which is what the white NRA is all about. You need that weapon to shoot maurading black people. The maurading black people cannot have a weapon too--they might shoot you first and that wouldn't be fair.

[UTUSN]

3. Yip. & the White NRA Would Be Filing Suits & Getting Restraining Orders

if this were happening to any of them. Where's Judicial Watch?

[theHandpuppet]

5. Rather sounds like our nuclear weapons policy, doesn't it?

Only white people get to play with weapons. Brown people get to play targets.

[greekspeak]

8. Hypocrisy...the halmark of RepuKKKlicanism

We're not racist. We just think white people are best.

We're not classist. We just believe that rich people are best.

We're not sexist. We just beleive men are best.

And since the NRA is more or less just a wing of the PuKKKlicans, of course they are not saying anything. After all, the founding fathers didn't like brown people anyway. In their "strict" reading of the constitution, this holds 100% true.

[acmejack]

7. Exactly

Racist assholes. Many, not all, gun people are seriously conflicted folks.

[Totally Committed]

11. Bingo!

Black men with guns is almost as scary as Black men with Library Cards to people like this.

TC

[geekgrrl]

2. yup- b/c they are taking guns away from black folks n/t

[yankeedem]

4. Why do you think people like that get guns?

To "protect" themselves from black and poor people. So I don't expect them to raise a voice against disarming "those people".

[Missy M]

6. Yes, that is the reason in a nutshell!!!!

[pointblank]

9. I would LOVE to hear the freep spin on this one...

I need a good laugh this morning as I sit at work...


Any lurking freeps want to step up?

[UTUSN]

10. I've E-mailed This Item to "Fox & Friends". Don't Expect an Answer n/t

[Iapetus]

12. Comments

Hi.

This is my first post, although I've been browsing DU on and off for some time. I've only just registered, as I don't exactly fit the desired user profile (I'm mostly libertarian, so I can find things about both the Republicans and Democrats to despise or support. I'm also British, so I couldn't vote for either even if I wanted to. On the other hand, I'm not a "conservative disruptor", and I don't resort "rude, anti-social behavior"). At least hear me out before you ban me :)


Anyway, I'm a regular reader/poster on a pro-firearms website (www.thehighroad.org), and can tell you that the other posters there, at least, are very incensed about this, and also at all the other civil rights violations that appear to be going on there. (Preventing journalists filming, forcing people out of their homes "probably as a precursor to a land grab", apparently a violation of the 3rd Amendment, etc).


Perhaps you guys and they could call a truce (even if just temporary), and combine forces to try to stop this (not just the gun confiscation, the whole send-troops-to-drive-people-out-of-their-homes disgrace).


|For the record, here are a couple of quotes from a couple of other poster on the site regarding the NRA and its response:

Where is the NRA? Absent.

Makes me think that the NRA is really just a mouthpiece for the firearms industry, and not a true standard bearer of the 2nd amendment.

It really irks me that the incompetent politicians first did not much to build effective levies, and then when they failed did not respond quickly or effectively, and now they want to solve the problem by getting rid of the people who live there rather than getting out of their way. Who is going to rebuild New Orleans with all the people removed?

A bunch of sell-out, political lackeys that lick the Republicans' boots every election. They haven't done a damned thing for the second amendment for 50 years. Grassroots is where you should be spending you donations. The NRA is not a sheepdog for the second amendment, it's a lap dog for the Republicans.

[UTUSN]

13. Welcome to DU. You Sound Coolly Sensible n/t

[Iapetus]

15. Thanks

Thanks :)

[ComerPerro]

14. Because, like all Republicans, they lack moral courage

and won't stick to their convictions when its not an "easy" stance to take.

[wakeme2008]

16. This could hurt DEMS

What party do you think he is with..

[UTUSN]

18. Who Are They? n/t

[wakeme2008]

20. He is

P. Edwin Compass III, the superintendent of police

[UTUSN]

17. I Bet They Are Too Busy and Will Appreciate My Contacting Them

They DO have the NYT link to the item under "Other News" at their website. They require Address and other identifying info on their "Contact Us" form, but this can be worked-around using zeros and random keys. Here's my typically confrontational message to them:

http://www.nra.org/

"Contact Us": https://www.nrahq.org/contact.asp

For years and years the NRA has told us that the 2nd Amendment was absolutely INVIOLABLE, that possessing firearms would protect us against an oppressive government, despite that individuals facing off against a government armed with WMD is impossible, and despite that the 2nd Amend. refers to militias for national defense.

Yet, as we speak, firearms are being confiscated from citizens in New Orleans and the NRA and its various usually-outspoken members are strangely silent. No words like "cold, dead hands" --to say nothing of attempts at legal remedies like restraining orders. Could it be, after all, that the NRA really HAS been merely interested in the profits of gun manufacturers and Republican politics, NOT the high-minded 2nd Amendment, all along?

[leesa]

19. Remember this incident in the future when they play the "dems want to

take away your guns" arguement. Also, when they try to prtend the second amendment is holy. Throw this in their face every time. Force them to acknowledge their racism.

[applegrove]

21. They don't care what happens to guns once they are sold. And

confiscating guns will just sell more guns. Plus the people in the countryside are scared of lawlessness and are buying them.

Plus it was the lackadaisical distribution of gun shops in NO that made it such a dangerous place. Word is that the police tried to remove guns from at least one gun shop the nigh Katrina hit - or perhaps after - but they didn't remove the bullets.

I would imagine NRA would have numerous reasons to shut the fuck up.