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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:15 AM
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Thad Allen just said "New Orleans wasn't typical(as for hurricanes)" (CNN)
Much like Condi and her non-traditional hi-jackings...we now have "non-typical" hurricanes and hurricane damage.

He was explaining why the FEMA response went better in Florida.

And here I thought a storm surge causing areas to flood was pretty fucking typical. Silly me.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:17 AM
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1. these people are shocked
when the sun rises in the morning.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:19 AM
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4. Truly. The obvious blindsides them every time (or so they claim)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:17 AM
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2. Well, I was hoping a Coastie wouldn't be a shilll...
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:18 AM
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3. Ya Think Anyone In This Regime Will Say "We Fukked Up"
More redmeat for the brainstems.

The regime still hasn't found someone/something to blame that is sticking. Nagin won't play along nor Blanco. So why not blame something that can't call you on your bullshit.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:22 AM
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6. It's Katrina's fault...she wasn't "typical"
Unreal init?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:20 AM
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5. Yeah an election campaign and brother in the WH=no difference
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:08 AM
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7. Thad Allen is an idiot. Every degree the gulf raises intensifies
the storms.

And the reason the FEMA response went better in Florida was that the year was 2004 BEFORE the election. I am in the Gulf Coast, and never in my life have I seen FEMA in a area quicker with water and ice, and buckets, buckets of dough.

These damn debit cards were given out like candy on Halloween. I saw them like crazy after Ivan. Where was the Republican rage then? They bought generators for people, paid renters for personal property lost, paid homeowners in addition to insurance, paid evacuation costs, & banged on doors begging people to take money. Where was the Republican rage then?

Oh, I forget sometimes that I live in a Republican county. It was the Republicans in the queue. And they were not waiting hours either.

This happened in a county that WAS hit by Opal (1995) and never saw FEMA and the Red Cross until after the power had been restored and Environmental Waste started picking up garbage. We were only peripheral to Ivan.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:12 AM
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8. is Allen a Bush Whore?
say it isn't so
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:14 AM
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9. I really don't know - I just spewed coffee everywhere
when he described conditions in New Orleans as not typical for hurricanes FEMA has dealt with before...namely Florida and the difference in response.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:16 AM
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10. why would he say such a thing?
it's just stupid and I thought we got rid of Brownie for his f***ing stupidity
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:19 AM
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11. Soledad was asking him why FEMAs response in Florida seemed
to go better than it did in New Orleans...amd Allen began to explain how what happened in Florida was what everyone (FEMA) was used to..what was typical (for hurricanes) and that it was different in New Orleans (the flooding, the damage)

and it sounded like an excuse.....the safe excuse, if you know what I mean. It does seem the theme from the federal level is "this was different" (New Orleans)
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:49 AM
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14. Read post #13. New Orleans *is* a unique problem.
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 08:51 AM by Zynx
That's not Bushie spin - there's no other city in the US that doesn't self-drain fairly rapidly after flooding conditions subside.

For example, Mobile flooded as well, but it drained very quickly. Same goes for Mississippi - the water left right away.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:56 AM
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16. Unique but not without well documented and well researched projections
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 08:57 AM by Solly Mack
on what would happen...

So while it might be technically correct to say it's not typical(in that regard-unique (to the US) geography), it's not a good enough excuse for the lack of response.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:19 AM
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12. meteorologist claims Katrina man-made
Ass-covering note: I'm not necessarily endorsing this (and I think the Yakuza speculation is outlandish). Just FYI.

Idaho meteorologist....Scott Stevens says after looking at NASA satellite photos of the hurricane, he’s is convinced it was caused by electromagnetic generators from ground-based microwave transmitters.

The generators emit a soundwave between three and 30 megahertz and Stevens claims the Russians invented the storm-creating technology back in 1976 and sold it to others in the late 1980s.

Stevens says the clouds formed by the generators are different than normal clouds and are able to appear out of nowhere and says Katrina had many rotation points that are unusual for hurricanes.

At least ten nations and organizations possess the technology but Stevens suspects the Japanese Yakuza created Katrina in order to make a fortune in the futures market and to get even with the U.S. for the 1945 bombing of Hiroshima.

http://www.flashnews.com/news/wfn1050908J5463.html
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:46 AM
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13. For the type of damage, no, Katrina is not typical.
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 08:48 AM by Zynx
Two things:

-- No other city in the country floods and stays naturally flooded. Tampa Bay and Mobile would both drain very quickly. There is NOTHING comporable to New Orleans. That's just a fact.

-- Because of the size and strength, the surge in Mississippi was quite unusually bad, especially for a "Catagory 4". It's not normal to see fifty or so miles of coastal structures just smashed.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:51 AM
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15. Good thing Katrina wasn't an atom bomb
I can just hear the excuses. Gee, we never imagined anyone would do that to us. We only planned for little dirty bombs.

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