Fox'sTony Snow Says Evacuees Buying Louis Vuitton Bags W/Debit Cards

[oasis]

The Fox slimy conservative news anchor, Tony Snow was cracking jokes with the Fox reporter at the Houston Astrodome. The reporter was telling him how everything is just rosey at the "Dome". People are getting all different kinds of meals, kids have an extensive play area, massages are available etc.. It's some kinda paradise the way he's decribing it.

Then the reporter on the scene mentions the $2,000 debit cards and says they were discontinued. Snow chuckles and says "Yeah, they thought is wasn't such a good idea after all when they noticed people were buying Louis Vuitton luggage with them."

:wtf: Get the picture of what kind of stories will be manufactured for distribution in right wing e-mails?

[dogday]

1. I posted this a couple of days ago about the

government being able to see all the purchases of the cardholder and that their spending habits would be scrutinized and publicized to make them look like ignorant poor people.... This is wrong. It should be a private matter what they buy. I am not saying it was a good choice, but it is not up to us to judge, is it?

[opihimoimoi]

7. Funny how dey don talk about Condi buying fancy shoes as peeps were dying

Sure she was far away...but she is a public figure, shoulda known but didn't.

Plus, those LV Bags prolly were fakes you can get for $23.47 at LV BAGS R US....

[oasis]

21. Tens of thousands of evacuees. How many would buy non-essentials during

a time of desperation and uncertainty? A very small percentage. Just as there was a very small percentage of thugs who shot at rescuers.

[IndyOp]

33. If they existed at all. Don't underestimate the power of their lying

imaginations. :nuke:

On Edit: Please remember and keep repeating - so as to catapult the truth - that each person is getting $300 - up to a max of $2000 for families of 7 or more. One DU'er posted that apartment rents in TX start at about $700 per month.

[KharmaTrain]

10. I Hit Upon That, Too

Also, they could control who is authorized to honor the card and who isn't. Say, it could direct people only to buy at a Home Depot or Wal-Mart than at a local business.

Be assured the "welfare queen" stories have just begun here. We'll see the right wing attempt to use race to distort class in this tragedy.

What appears to me when I see the coverage...especially on the little I've seen on Faux...most of the "refugees" you see are black. If they show a missing child, it's always black, yet there are certainly hundreds, if not thousands of poor white children who were lost as well.

And, of course, Mr. Snow wouldn't dare mention if he found out someone took that 2Gs and put it on Haliburton stock. That's what I'd do.

[bribri16]

63. Will they talk about the white guy who stockpiled a horde of liquor

He said he didn't even drink but he was going to use the liquor in the future for bartering. i guess they consider him an entrepreneur rather than a "looter.

[Deja Q]

64. The government gets our tax money... (you won't believe this response)

Which means the government has just as much to scrutinize what those folks are doing...

Just as much as we have every right to scrutinize how the government spends it.

And people don't. That's one reason why we let those fools and freaks rack up JUST ABOUT EIGHT TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT.

It's clear at this point the US isn't going to survive what's going on. So I won't ask. I'm going to live while I can and try to pay back what I owe. If I don't make it, it's because the system will crash and everybody else won't either; which means people will turn to robbing, extortion, and killing to get money. (in other words, we all become our own private corporation...)

[Skittles]

2. were they driving cadillacs?

lol

[Lochloosa]

"Can't drive your bathtub to town".

Old lady with no indoor plumbing in Tampa said that on an interview when asked why she had a caddy and no bathtub...

[Skittles]

11. oh I love her

:thumbsup:

[DBoon]

20. Yeah, I bet we'll hear stories about pink cadillacs

bought with federal funds.

[AX10]

67. "driving Cadillacs": per St. Ronnie "the beast" Reagan.

:argh:

Murdoch should have been aborted!

[tjdee]

3. Yeah, like you can get Louis Vuitton for $2000! HA!

(on edit:
I was oh so very wrong, apparently you can get a lot of the uglier monogram bags for only $500-800!)

Implication:

Those scary black people would rather buy a Louis Vuitton (which carries pretty ugly bags, mostly) than food or anything to help themselves.

This isn't primarily a race issue, but people like these asshats MAKE it one. Fuck them.

[bookman]

4. It should be noted

That the ok was given to give evacuees "knock off" items that were impounded. I wouldn't be surprised that Fox people missed this item. Perhaps what they see are these items.

[oasis]

13. Could be that the the okay was given so the evacuees would be

criticized for having them. "FEMA money going to waste. etc.".

[countingbluecars]

15. Right, I read

that the knock off items were everything from designer underwear to handbags. Leave it to Fox to spread such bigoted misinformation.

[KyndCulture]

5. least he didn't say 20" rims...

:shrug:


racist assholes...

[maine_raptor]

6. I'm surprised Tony didn't give them stock tips

[supernova]

8. Could he possibly be confusing

the fact that the goverment was going to give survivors the counterfeit designer stuff that customs has prevented from entering the country?

If I had nothing, I would like a handbag or tote and some luggage, perhaps some toys and music players for my kids too. It wouldn't matter to me if it was a fake Ralph Lauren. It's still useful stuff.

And yes, I agree, whatever people decided to do with those cards is their business.

[oasis]

26. Yes, so noted on post #4. It seems Fox is exploiting this situation to

score point with kool aid drinking Dittoheads.

[elehhhhna]

9. A LIE! The bags are fakes--Here's the skinny:

The fed confiscates knockoff merch all over Houston. They distributed millions of dollars of stuff that's been sitting in a warehouse for the last few years--it was all over the news here. Not to mention that the knockoff shops themselves are very close to the dome and everybody in Houston knows that.

[wurzel]

17. Is that a fact??

[elehhhhna]

24. Absolutely a fact.

[ariesgem]

65. check out the prices yourself.

http://www.eluxury.com/brands/louis_vuitton/w04/assortment.jhtml?SectionID=6000&CategoryID=3001&SubCategoryID=3003&ClassificationID=3006

I doubt anyone would drop their entire $2000 on buying a piece of luggage when there are mouths to feed.

[dogday]

22. We have a whole neighborhood in Houston

where you can go and buy knockoff items. This is very true

[Midlodemocrat]

31. You know what? If they were real, it wouldn't bother me one bit.

A little creature comfort for a person who has lost everything. No big deal.

Here I sit, fat, dumb and happy in my air conditioned house with a cable connection to our computers and two refrig/freezers full of food. Would be really easy for me to scrutinize, criticize.

I hope someone does buy a real Louis Vuitton with the money. Why the fuck would I care?

[dogday]

48. We shouldn't care, I didn't like it when I first heard

of it cause I knew they would do this. This should not be for public consumption either. These people have been thru enough, if a designer bag makes someone happy at this point, I say buy it. They need something to put their things in....

[annabanana]

28. yes yes yes!

Customs released a hoard of counterfit designer stuff for use during the emergency. Usually they just burn the stuff.

[elehhhhna]

32. plus Harwin drive (knockoff central) is about 7 miles from the A'dome.

[dogday]

49. That's the place

about anything you want. Dollar store central as well.....

[elehhhhna]

68. FOX SAID IT AGAIN AT 4;00 Central!

"2 people have bought $800.00 Louis Vuitton Handbags" oh the humanity.

[oasis]

72. Are Foxbots following people around to see what they're buying? New

reality show.

[Catherine Vincent]

52. Yes, that is true.

I read an article about there her on DU a couple of days ago.

[MissWaverly]

12. I have heard that anyone who collected the money

signed a waiver saying that they would never ask for government aid,
is this true?

[oasis]

29. Someone posted about a waiver yesterday using CNN's Miles O'brien as a

source. Not yet verified.

[MissWaverly]

36. thank you for the update

when I saw those little girls standing behind bars yesterday at one
of the evacuation centers, it is heartbreaking

[Octafish]

14. Tony Snow is lower than whale shit.

Tony the Turd used to shill for capital at The Detroit News before going big-time with Fox Noise Nutwork.

An observation, overheard last weekend:

There are two kinds of people in the world:
Those who love people and use things.
Those who love things and use people.

[oasis]

35. "Those who love things and use people". That's the GOP.

[Octafish]

55. If the loafer fits, they must wear it.

Remember the Gucci GOP riot that helped stop the recount?



Nice people, these turds.

Wake up and smell the fascism.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

[me b zola]

16. Those creatures (Snow et al) have no sense of decency...NONE

Yes, I get the picture, loud & clear. :mad:

[patdem]

18. There buying luggage?? WTF are they going to put in luggage???

"Yeah, they thought is wasn't such a good idea after all when they noticed people were buying Louis Vuitton luggage with them."

These people think we are as dumb as dirt...these racist idiots think they are cute...well fuck that...I am sick as shit when I see a gaggle of white men laughing at each others jokes..when they have all but completly ruined our plante, our childrens futures and everything just to put a few extra bucks in their pockets..I am truly disgusted at white men....:grr: :evilfrown:

[sierrajim]

73. WTF is this shit?

So because I'm a white male are you going to walk up and slap me! And yes I find this extremely insulting. You really need to redirect your anger.

[still_one]

19. usually the fox, the nazi news network says

some people say, blah blah blah

asshole tony snow, WHO WERE THE PEOPLE THAT SAID THEY WERE BUYING LOUIS VUITTON LUGGAGE?

WAS IT BARBARA BUSH?

I hope fox network drowns in the vomit of the stench they have created

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. Who cares how they spend the money?

I don't. Most of these people lost everything they had. If they want to buy a Louis Vuitton bag, let them. BFD.

[ComerPerro]

25. Tony Snow. A pathetic jackass, Brit Hume's Sith Apprentice

[annabanana]

27. they were confiscated fakes!

Don't you remember that Customs had released a whole shitload of counterfit "designer" stuff for emergency use? It was quite the news item for a few hours.....

[oasis]

34. Many DUers seem to be aware of that. Tony Snow probably does too but

he chooses to stir shit up against black folks.

[oasis]

54. If you know it, Fox news knows it. That doesn't stop them from spreading

propaganda to those who don't know.

[Hamlette]

30. luggage and the victims. . .

I live in Utah, we have 500 or so victims here. The agency I work for is helping them (welfare and unemployment). They put out a call early last week for donations from the staff. They quickly recalled it and said they had tons of donations and everything they needed except luggage. The only donations they needed after tuesday was any kind of luggage, backpacks, duffel bags etc.

When you think about it, we were relocating these people to apartments and some of them had come here with plastic garbage bags with what little they had in them. They had received a few other things here (the first call was for grooming things, diapers, etc.). How do they carry them?

Maybe all the cheap stuff had been sold by the time these people got to the store.

[Cats Against Frist]

37. I agree with everything said, here

That Snow is an asshole, and that FOX is using this to prove a sterotype, to drum up freeper prejudice. I also read about the goods being knock-offs, and I don't think the gov't should monitor the purchases.

That said...

A lot of times, we like to give the poor attributes that are just not a reality -- and it sort of cannonizes them. In my opinion, this is disrespectful. The poor are like "everyone" else. They want name-brand goods, and they fall into the trap of buying things outside of their use-value, despite the fact that they're poor. The only exception to this, that I've noted, after several years of working in social services, is that those who are crack smokers and meth addicts, do not have the same problems, because all they care about are the drugs.

I worked with a family who had three kids. Dad was mentally disabled, mother worked part-time at McDonald's. One child had learning disabilities, the other two had behavioral disorders. They had to shave every kid bald, because of lice. They lived in a roach-infested apartment, with scum and dirt and trash, everywhere. The biggest event in these peoples' lives was when they got their EIC checks. By working part-time, the mother was able to secure about $3,000 in EIC money. So, what did they do with the cash? Get a running car, so the kids wouldn't have to ride, in the winter, in a car with the windows busted out? Did they save it, and make a plan and get out of the shithole they were living in? Did they try to make it go as far as possible? Did they buy cleaning supplies to clean up their disgusting apartment?

The answer to all of the above is: NO. What they did do, however, is buy the dad a gold chain, the kids GAP sweatshirts, a great big stereo and television system, and blew the rest on junk. This is after YEARS of intensive home intervention and DCFS involvement.

Look, I'm a very critical person. I don't like myth or bullshit. I was so understanding with the realities of my clients, that I actually budgeted cigarette, beer, and even DRUG MONEY, into their household budget, in the hopes that I could just get them to modify their behavior a bit, so their innocent little kids didn't have to live in squalor, with lead poisoning, or with a head-full of bug eggs -- BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE DID NOT FUCKING CARE. Client after client -- the same goddamn thing: environmental neglect, failure to protect (from child molesters and abusers!!!), lead poisoning, child abuse -- but the ones who weren't addicted to drugs, lit up like Christmas lights when they either got "brand name" items from charity, or scraped enough money together to buy something that was WAY OVERPRICED when they neglected many of their other needs.

Now, I don't necessarily think that it's their fault. I think it's all of society's fault, but I do think that some of the blame lies with them. Many of these clients, though disadvantaged and with some sketchy socialization issues, were not STUPID, and to pretend that they are either stupid or helpless demeans them. Meaning, that I think, to respect the poor, you must see them in full-color: they are as weak and as irresponsible as anyone else. As weak as the employer who loots people's pensions, as weak as the behemoth chain that busts labor unions, as weak as those dumb ass freepers, who are always complaining about government, but are too lazy, afraid and selfish to get off their own asses and provide community support to those who have less than themselves. As weak as the middle class perosn who spends and spends and gets caught up in all that "keeping up with the Jones'" bullshit.

Instead of just ragging on dumb FOX news employees for their obvious racism, recognize that the poor are just as susceptible to the bullshit, and that it's a problem that we all have. And do something about it.

[Cats Against Frist]

40. I also wanted to add

That there are millions of hard-working Americans, who take care of themselves, and their families, but are still poor -- the people who were referred to me were not referred to me for being poor, specifically, (though I believe that the poor are more often referred, not by virtue of the fact that they abuse their children any more than the wealthy, but because of their class), they were referred for abuse, neglect and failure to protect from abuse. I don't think that most poor people are all about this stuff -- but I do think that most of them, as all of us, have a problem with consumerism, buying things outside of use value, or recognizing a "brand name," as a status symbol. And my point is: we are ALL both the perpetrators and the victims of this phenomenon.

[oasis]

45. "Status symbols"obsession with "consumerism". Education is the key. (eom)

[oasis]

43. Educating America on the issue will continue to be an uphill battle.

In the mean time, we have to fight down herein the trenches and immediately expose the strategies of our common enemies.

[Avalon Sparks]

38. yah right...

One single piece of LV luggage costs more than 2,000 bucks...

[EnfantTerrible]

39. Was this broadcast somewhere?

How do we know it's true?

I am no fan of FAUX news and especially Tony Snow (his voice makes me crazy), but is there a link to this? Anything? We here at DU get pretty uptight about unfounded allegations against those we support. We should perhaps apply the same standards across the board.

[oasis]

57. Of course it was broadcast. Tony Snow doesn't talk to me over my fence.

[EnfantTerrible]

78. Your original post made it sound like

hearsay... at least that's how it read to me. So, he said this on his show or something... that's all I was asking.

[applegrove]

41. Didn't the Feds release a whole shit-load of copyright infringement

purses, clothes, toy, & stuff? I think the knock-offs were being sent from Washington to Houston.

Feds announced this last weekend.

[mitchum]

42. What? Not down payments on Cadillacs?

As soon as the debit cards were announced, I KNEW this typical line of right wing bullshit would be spewed. These people are so predictable in their loathsomeness.

[ignatius 2]

44. Like we couldn't see this kind of sick smarminess coming. Its like

people who use food stamps and others in line talk because maybe they have a nice roast or a bag of gourmet cookies in their cart.

People want to pretend to be all charitable and kind,but only if you stay down and don't enjoy the little luxeries only to be had by them.

These 2 should be shit canned for their disgusting remarks. I remember on Crossfire one evening,the conversation was about social security.Fucker Carlson said something about old people eating cat food or whatever.

Carville cut him a new one, but I think that this I am rich therefore I am better is so inbedded in some of these people they don't even care what they say and until we, the working class people,say fuck you you are not doing this anymore, then it will not stop.

[Cleita]

46. Also, if true, there are a lot of places you can buy

name brand seemingly expensive goods, like the Goodwill and Ross for bargain prices. I have seen Louis Vuitton at Ross for a fraction of the cost because they are either a discontinued line or seconds with some minor flaw in them. I have designer clothes that I buy at Ross for less than I would spend at Walmart for their el cheapo brands.

[bluedawg12]

47. Why would survivors talk to Tony Blow? n/t

[oasis]

53. That's the point. The reporter is promoting rumors and innnuendo.

[AbbyR]

50. I thought they'd cancelled using the debit cards? nft

[robbedvoter]

51. They'll need them, if they'll live in Texas and not scare The Silver

Douchebag

[Lindacooks]

56. Snow, you're a fat pimple on the buttocks of the repuke party.

shut the fuck up, you racist pig.

[mbee]

58. Why, of course, only phony Christians who display the Ten Command-

ments, but never obey them should be able to buy such things!

[wndycty]

59. Does anybody have a link to video or a transcript. . .

. . .this sick and blatantly racist. Sure there are some people who are not going to put this money to good use, however the overwhelming majority of people are going to do the right thing. This is just a perfect example of Snow and FAUX pandering to racial stereotypes. Disgusting.

[oasis]

62. Snow made the comment about 10 minutes before I posted. 12:25-1230 est.

[bluedawg12]

60. If the people in the Superdom had been white they would

have been called hostages being held by armed gunmen.

Instead, people like Snow said the Superdome could not be evacuated because people were shooting at helicopters.

See the bias Tony?

[oasis]

61. Good point. Which gives rise to another question: How can a handful of

thugs prevent the rescue of thousands?

Bush saw what was happenening, he had the power to pick up the phone and remedy the situation with the best equipped armed forces on the planet.

[bluedawg12]

66. If we could take Fallujah-we could secure the Superdome

and free the 25,000 hostages there.

They escaped from Katrina, they survived the flood, and then they were held hostage in the Superdome and Convention center.

That is the message.

Good thread Oasis.

[oasis]

71. The might of the U.S. was held at bay by a band of hoodlums. It's hard

for freeps to swallow, but they can't have it both ways.

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. hmm next I know they will be driving cadies too

[wellstone dem]

70. and in other disastors

they have handed out checks to middle class people, but NO ONE judged those people and how they spent the money. Hey, maybe some of the people are buying doritos and pop. IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. People are so worried about how people are spending this stupid 2,000. Did we ask those rich people that got a buyout after 911 how they spent their millions????? No, but we worry about these poor people.

POOR PEOPLE are not dangerous. POOR PEOPLE are not evil. POOR PEOPLE sometimes smoke. POOR PEOPLE sometimes drink. POOR PEOPLE need money for shoes. POOR PEOPLE know what they need to buy to take care of their kids.

OK, let's spend thousands of dollars hiring someone who can monitor how these people are spending their money.

We are only worried about these debit cards because the victims are poor. So why the hell does everyone all of a sudden care about them so much, when 2 weeks ago we couldn't even get a bus to them!

[oasis]

74. This story is pure propaganda. Fox mission: Toss red meat to freepers.

[AndreaCG]

75. Paris Hilton was evacuated?

[SlavesandBulldozers]

76. These Fox anchors really get a kick out of the suffering.

There's nothing like a disaster that really gets the blood-flowing to that albino-werewolf's shriveled, maggot-ridden, member - than some death and destruction.

[DELUSIONAL]

77. US Customs GAVE the hurricane victims/survivors

knock off copies of expensive originals -- so it may look like some of the survivors are buying expensive stuff.

When I heard that Customs was doing this I was wondering how long it would before a sleaze ball, slime bucket, SOB talk show frickin' snot would start saying that the victims were BUYing expensive stuff with the BIG check they got from the Government????

[bluedawg12]

79. The Cops gave knock off Vouitton bags, etc., from a bust

so they can walk around with faux bags all they want- it came from cops. The lying RW can't wait to slur and slime with racially tinged misinformation.

[Midnight Rambler]

80. After what they've been through

I don't give a shit if they buy a Ferrari. Brownie should personally buy every person a brand new car and a plasma screen TV just for being a grossly inexperienced fuck-up, on top of compensation for everything they lost.