Katrina Body recovery Thread

[preciousdove]

Please copy links to articles posted here and elsewhere below. If you are posting an old story please put date in subject line. Thanks.

[preciousdove]

1. W, Allbaugh (FEMA), 'Funeralgate' and Dutch morgue in NO

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4727874

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2. Rescuers collect dead, New Orleans slowly recovers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1770085

[preciousdove]

3. 'Zero access' for media during corpse recovery

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1769548

[preciousdove]

4. Govt. Abandons Restrictions on (CNN)Coverage !!!!! (UPDATE)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1769912

Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 12:34 PM by doxieone

(Mediabistro.com)

<b>Saturday, Sep 10

Aftermath: Govt. "Abandons" Restrictions On Coverage Of Victim Recovery

Following up on yesterday's lawsuit: "Rather than fight a lawsuit by CNN, the federal government abandoned its effort Saturday to prevent the media from reporting on the recovery of the dead in New Orleans," CNN.com says.

>"Joint Task Force Katrina 'has no plans to bar, impede or prevent news media from their news gathering and reporting activities in connection with the deceased Hurricane Katrina victim recovery efforts,' said Col. Christian E. deGraff, representing the task force."

LINK TO CNN'S STORY:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/10/katrina.media/index.html

[preciousdove]

5. Katrina death toll swells to 372

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1770333

[preciousdove]

6. Faux reporter says that there could be less than 1,000 deaths. (Duh!)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4727428

[preciousdove]

7. CNN Shows Fires Daily... Are They Getting Rid Of Corpses In Plain Sight?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4716036

[preciousdove]

8. Dutch group to fly in temporary mass mortuary (huge!)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4726864

[preciousdove]

9. NO death toll may not be "catastrophic"- Sept 9th (GOP talking point)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1767081&mesg_id=1767081

[preciousdove]

45. Will the death toll be lower?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4725775&mesg_id=4725775

[preciousdove]

10. Many of the Dead Never to Be Identified Sept 6

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1755375&mesg_id=1755375

[preciousdove]

11. Mayor: Katrina Death Toll May Hit 10,000 Sept 4th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1754969&mesg_id=1754969

[preciousdove]

12. New Orleans collects dead as officials dodge blame Sept 4th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1752700

[preciousdove]

13. New horrors discovered as search-and-recovery effort goes on Sept 5th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1755887

[preciousdove]

14. Funeral Director Deploys to Hurricane Region (up to 40,000 bodies!) Sep6th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1758457

[preciousdove]

31. HS Mortuary Response team expects up to 40,000 bodies? Sep 6th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2068842

[preciousdove]

15. Teams removing 30 bodies found in nursing home Sep 8

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1764281

[preciousdove]

16. Miss. Struggles to Deal With Dead Bodies Sep 1st

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1745373

[preciousdove]

17. New Orleans Begins to Deal With Its Dead Sep 4th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1752122

[preciousdove]

18. WP: Hiding Bodies Won't Hide the Truth (OpEd) Sep 8th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x154718

[preciousdove]

19. More than 2000 dead bodies collected in only ONE facility on only ONE day

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4729007

[preciousdove]

20. What a fucking HEADLINE: "Rescuers collect dead, Cheney sounds upbeat"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2080012

[preciousdove]

21. Any Word On The Death Toll In NO? n/t Sep 7

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2071777&mesg_id=2071777

[preciousdove]

22. Why are the body counts still so low? Sep 9th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2078021&mesg_id=2078021

[preciousdove]

23. Pathologist helps identify hurricane's dead-but not allowed.. count Sep 9

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2077410

[preciousdove]

24. Can someone.. tell me how it would be possible to hide 60K bodies? Sep9

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2077132&mesg_id=2077132

[preciousdove]

25. reson no body count. 60,000 died in the flood (Locked) Sep 9

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2077066&mesg_id=2077066

[preciousdove]

26. I'd rather have them here dead than alive. Sep 9

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2076845

[preciousdove]

27. Do Search and Rescue teams keep a count of ...bodies... Sep 9

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2077028

[preciousdove]

28. FEMA can't ...but they CAN handle 25,000 body bags. (Image) Sep 8

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2074681

[preciousdove]

29. We must demand that the bodies be autopsied AND identified...Sep 7th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2068846&mesg_id=2068846

[preciousdove]

30. No Autopsies Scheduled Sep 7th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2069953

[preciousdove]

32. "THE GRAVEST JOB" - IDENTIFYING THE DEAD IN NO Sep 6th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2068113

[preciousdove]

33. ...Chertoff: Death toll expected to 'be an unhappy number' Sep 6th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2067098&mesg_id=2067098

[boston bean]

34. BILOXI: Coroner insists death count is accurate

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/12567449.htm

[preciousdove]

35. They're not going to remove the bodies? Sep 9th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4710909&mesg_id=4710909

[preciousdove]

36. Those bodies were once someones precious children! Sep 8th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4706260&mesg_id=4706260

[preciousdove]

37. Would it be useful to set up a web-accessible database of dead/missing?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4713159

[preciousdove]

38. Do you believe reporters have a duty to report on deaths? Sep 9th

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4712828

[preciousdove]

39. Post to Americablog: Pumps in NOLA Slowed...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4720464

[preciousdove]

66. How big are the pumps in New Orleans, can a body pass through?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4734338

[preciousdove]

40. As bodies rot in America, I understand they do it in dignity...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4703732

[preciousdove]

41. Why the hell are there ANY dead bodies on the street anywhere

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4718187&mesg_id=4718187

[preciousdove]

42. What's wrong with this HEADLINE?: "Death toll might not hit 10,000"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4723393&mesg_id=4723393

[preciousdove]

43. 50,000 more body bags ordered for Hurricane Katrina cleanup and Iraq

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4719119&mesg_id=4719119

[preciousdove]

44. A Stench: Mobile Morgues, Brown, Funeralgate, FEMA - a Cover-up?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4712365&mesg_id=4712365

[preciousdove]

46. DMORT

Homepage: http://www.dmort.org/

Dmort public forum:
http://www.dmort.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=244c0d967ec5f6a285ecbd6dc46a4d16

Thread
Katrina http://www.dmort.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=24

Katrina Area(MS & AL): Region 4 http://www.dmort4.com/
Region 6 has no website (LA) Map of regions: http://r1.dmort.org/

[Digit]

47. This needs a big kick

:kick:

[preciousdove]

48. How Simple it is: They are reporting around 10% of what they are finding

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4741097

[Behind the Aegis]

50. Suggestion.

As ghoulish as this might seem, I think you are right on the mark to keep track! I am sure we will see a cover-up and it is a good idea to have proof (I hope people also save articles and not just links). Perhaps you could ask the mods to "pin" this at the top of the room so that people could continue to add and it won't get lost in the flurry of posts here.

Good job! Hopefully the recently awakened media will do its job, but seeing their past, it's good you and others are doing this!!!

[buzzsaw_23]

49. kick n/t

[bobbieinok]

51. need continuous kick so it doesn't get lost

[preciousdove]

52. Body Search Accelerates as Death Toll Keeps Rising

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1772779#1773033

[Drum]

53. Kick this up to the forefront!

These are our departed fellow citizens...all should be counted and accounted for...keep this inquiry alive.

:kick:

[preciousdove]

54. Sparrow pathologist helps identify hurricane's dead

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1771258

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55. FEMA mortuary move irritates volunteer

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1771260

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56. A Grim Task Done Badly

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1771246

[preciousdove]

57. Grim signs of Katrina's staggering toll;25K body bags arrive in NOLA

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x155574

[Liberty Belle]

58. KICK!

[preciousdove]

59. Helping the dead reclaim identity (140 bodies a day max)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x155573

[preciousdove]

60. Giving names to the dead

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x155572

[preciousdove]

61. The NOLA body count is under 200?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2082728&mesg_id=2082728

[preciousdove]

62. Sickening, horrifying thought: (Discussion only, no links)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2081250

[preciousdove]

63. Katrina Death Toll May Not Hit 10,000 Sep 10th (yahoo link)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2078891

[preciousdove]

64. Norway to help with victim ID (Mange takk!)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4733847

[preciousdove]

65. A little History on New Orleans Cemeteries (OT bookmarking)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4735094

[preciousdove]

67. WHAT IS !THIS, NUMBERS LOWER THAN EXPECTED

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4736048&mesg_id=4736048

[preciousdove]

68. My Opinion - FEMA Falsifying Body Counts (PISSED OFF!!)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4735306&mesg_id=4735306

[preciousdove]

69. 6. I was in the airport in Memphis this afternoon and a guy across

from me was on his cell phone talking about New Orleans (he was apparently a journalist just returning from there, as he kept mentioning his editor). He said he had been out on airboats and that when bodies were found they were just noting the GPS coordinates and not attempting to recover them. He also said there were body bags with corpses in them sitting for days at the place where the boats launched and corpses tied to light poles. He mentioned that Christiane Amanpour (sp?) was on a boat when they had been told no journalists were being allowed out on them and that he threw all the clothes he wore while there out because of the way they smelled.

They guy looked pretty tired and not at all concerned that a number of people were hearing everything he said.

So, maybe "recovered" means "under refrigeration."

OP+Discussion http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4740872

[Helga Scow Stern]

70. LA Times: Turning to Grimmest Task

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-death11sep11,0,73912.story?track=tothtml

[preciousdove]

71. Can we attempt an honest account of the NOLA death toll?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4740621

[linazelle]

72. Link to a duplicate thread with additional info...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4741193