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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:46 PM
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Beestis clepid chymeres, that han A part Of ech beest
Beestis clepid chymeres, that han A part Of ech beest, and suche ben not, no but oonly in opynyoun.

'Bible’ by Wyclif (1382), Prologue, page 31

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Hmmm...
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:48 PM
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1. WTF?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:48 PM
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2. Umm, what?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:51 PM
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3. It's in Old English
And it's from the Bible, or at least a translator's prologue.

Maybe Aion will provide us with a translation if we ask nicely. :)

--p!
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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:57 PM
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12. I wouldn't even attempt that
But something is definitely wrong in that 'hwit' house.

Philosophy @ Indiana University...and I am no spring chicken.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:51 PM
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4. is it bad I understood that?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:52 PM
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7. Is it bad that I didn't? (eom)
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:56 PM
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10. I think it's grand that you do....if you would just
translate "clepid" for me, I think I have it...or most of it....or some of it.... :) .
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:56 PM
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11. Clepid=called/named. nt
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:08 PM
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19. Thanks! (n/t)
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:03 PM
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14. Waiting for the sky taxi.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/05/03/26_taxi.html

Read the whole piece- it short and informative.

"The last wave of Rapture-mania finally abated in the wake of the Progressive revolutions that followed World War I. They reformed labor laws, curbed the excesses of the corporate classes, and spread a social safety net under the feet of the vulnerable. If we want to save a habitable world for our grandchildren, we need to pull the rug out from under Rapture-mania with a new wave of hope and opportunity. We must demonstrate that there is hope in this world, not just in cloud-cuckoo-land. That making this world a better place can be even more satisfying than contemplating the richly-deserved tortures of the sinning class."

"The Rapture-maniacs have a strong hold on political power and are doing their best to make things more hopeless, rather than less so. They can hear the throbbing engines of the Great Sky Taxi loud in their ears, and they're not about to listen to the feeble voices of the ineffectual liberals who couldn't even hold onto the gains we made in the mid-20th century. "

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:52 PM
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5. Weirdest. Post. Ever.


Care to give us some?
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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:05 PM
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15. Ask the Amish
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:09 PM
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20. Amish don't speak Old English, they speak Low German, lol
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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:12 PM
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22. Brilliant!
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:52 PM
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6. The beast is a chimera that
has a head from part of each beast, such as has never been seen, but only imagined.

Okay- is this close?

Revelations?
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dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:54 PM
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8. Yes, but a propos of what?
Loose modern translation: "Beasts called chimeras, that are made up of parts of other beasts; they don't exist, though some believe in them."

Now telle unto us the applycacion thereofe...
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:06 PM
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17. If Bushbots are waiting for end-times
then this is a reference from someone-maybe to get us talking...or to remind us?

Depends on why someone posted this.
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:55 PM
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9. Beasts called Chimaeras...
that have a part of each beast, and do not exist, but only in imagination.

http://www.unifi.it/unifi/surfchem/solid/bardi/chimera/

The Bible is full of fantasy creatures: unicorns, cockatrices, leviathans, behemoths, etc., plus patchwork monsters inhabiting various deleriums such as Daniel, Ezekiel, and the Revelation.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:03 PM
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13. Sounds like one of my RPGs..
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:05 PM
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16. thanx for post
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:06 PM
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18. I like your website, aion
the once-imagined beestis is realized,

in D.C. is its head
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:10 PM
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21. Holy smokes, shades of Chaucer!!!!!!!!!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:27 PM
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23. Bush's Chimeras (or Chimerae or Khimerai)
Chimeras are shape-shifting creatures in ancient literature. Modern use of the word is limited to biology, the offspring of two different organisms who are able to reproduce, though I think even here it is limited to botany -- mules and hinnies are usually not called chimeras.

But Wycliffe is speaking metaphorically, too, borrowing from the Bible. I'm glad Aion posted this, because it follows my own approach to those who "believe in weird things" -- to not scoff or rush to prove them wrong, but to listen closely and defer final judgement.

"Hmmm, what are those poor wretches really experiencing? What manner of being has ursurped the sovereignty of their thoughts?"

It's an interesting insight into the power of spin. Team Bush could be said to be trying to create its own reality, as if reality was nothing more than a flow of information. So Bush plays God, but his results are beasts like the ancient Greek Khimerae -- fearful, deadly monsters that keep a population terrified, ghosts with no tangible existence per se, but built of the material parts of more mundane dangers.

It leads to the thought that Bush may be playing the part of a necromancer who has deluded himself -- and/or his thralls -- into believing he works in the name of Christ.

Maybe.

--p!
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