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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:00 PM
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"I just got back from a FEMA Detainment Camp" by Valhall
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html

We then started lugging in our food products. The foods I had purchased were mainly snacks, but my mother - God bless her soul - had gone all out with fresh vegetables, fruits, canned goods, breakfast cereals, rice, and pancake fixings. That's when we got the next message: They will not be able to use the kitchen.

Excuse me? I asked incredulously.

FEMA will not allow any of the kitchen facilities in any of the cabins to be used by the occupants due to fire hazards. FEMA will deliver meals to the cabins. The refugees will be given two meals per day by FEMA. They will not be able to cook. In fact, the "host" goes on to explain, some churches had already enquired about whether they could come in on weekends and fix meals for the people staying in their cabin. FEMA won't allow it because there could be a situation where one cabin gets steaks and another gets hot dogs - and...

it could cause a riot.

It gets worse.

He then precedes to tell us that some churches had already enquired into whether they could send a van or bus on Sundays to pick up any occupants of their cabins who might be interested in attending church. FEMA will not allow this. The occupants of the camp cannot leave the camp for any reason. If they leave the camp they may never return. They will be issued FEMA identification cards and "a sum of money" and they will remain within the camp for the next 5 months.

My son looks at me and mumbles "Welcome to Krakow."

My mother then asked if the churches would be allowed to come to their cabin and conduct services if the occupants wanted to attend. The response was "No ma'am. You don't understand. Your church no longer owns this building. This building is now owned by FEMA and the Oklahoma Highway Patrol. They have it for the next 5 months." This scares my mother who asks "Do you mean they have leased it?" The man replies, "Yes, ma'am...lock, stock and barrel. They have taken over everything that pertains to this facility for the next 5 months."

We then lug all food products requiring cooking back to the car. We start unloading our snacks. Mom appeared to have cornered the market in five counties on pop-tarts and apparently that was an acceptable snack so the guy started shoving them under the counter. He said these would be good to tied people over in between their two meals a day. But he tells my mother she must take all the breakfast cereal back. My mother protests that cereal requires no cooking. "There will be no milk, ma'am." My mother points to the huge industrial double-wide refrigerator the church had just purchased in the past year. "Ma'am, you don't understand...

It could cause a riot."

He then points to the vegetables and fruit. "You'll have to take that back as well. It looks like you've got about 10 apples there. I'm about to bring in 40 men. What would we do then?"

My mother, in her sweet, soft voice says, "Quarter them?"

"No ma'am. FEMA said no...

It could cause a riot. You don't understand the type of people that are about to come here...."

I turn and walk out of the room...lugging all the healthy stuff back to the car. My son later tells me the man went on to say "We've already been told of teenage girls delivering fetuses on buses." My son steps toward him and says "That's because they've almost been starved to death, haven't had a decent place to get a good night's sleep, and their bodies can't keep a baby alive. I'm not sure that's any evidence some one should be using to show these are 'bad people'."

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:04 PM
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1. my God!
Will these people be allowed to come back and monitor these prisoners-er-displaced persons? Or will they simply be locked up and forgotten?
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:09 PM
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2. Conspiracy bullxxxx
This has been posted , maybe ten or more times on DU.
I don't have to argue how stupid it is because THERE ARE NO evacuees at Falls Creek.

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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:13 PM
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3. oh thank God
I just read this and said, surely, no one would have the inclination or time to make this up? Can you shed any light on it's origins?
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:25 PM
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6. like everything else that gets spread on tinfoil sites
and then gets passed around. I'm sure this fellow went there, but maybe his re-telling was exaggerated or the person he talked to didn't know what they were talking about. No one in any of these places is detained. Of course, we also now know, that the centers are slowly being depopulated. The people are finding other places to live.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:13 PM
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4. are you sure? Dollar Tree at 31+Garnet has list of what to supply for
refugees at Falls Creek

I really hope you're right
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:22 PM
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5. Last report I read
which was the 8th, they have not arrived and probably won't.
They feel that the 2300 at Camp Gruber is probably enough for Oklahoma. By the way, Camp Gruber folks are doing great. I have a friend who along with one of my empolyees went down there and took a group shopping. They, as everyone else in these places, can come and go as they please.
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:33 PM
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7. thank you OK
I was traumatized all over again, thank you for your post
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:05 PM
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10. thanks...I actually searched for myself and found the following
found home page of the OK Southern Baptist Convention and started a DU thread here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4729692&mesg_id=4729692
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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:43 PM
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9. Yeah, all those AP reporters wear tinfoil hats
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 06:44 PM by GettysbergII
http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=3807527

More hurricane evacuees expected at Falls Creek
Sept 5, 2005, 12:37 PM

ASSOCIATED PRESS

DAVIS, Okla. -- More evacuees from Hurricane Katrina are expected to arrive in Oklahoma. Falls Creek, located near Davis, is expected to receive up to 3,000 evacuees sometime. They'll be arriving throughout the day.

The camp is owned and operated by the Southern Baptist Convention of Oklahoma. The American Red Cross is working with Baptist officials to oversee sheltering needs at the camp.

The Salvation Army will provide clothing. The Oklahoma Veterinarian Association and the Oklahoma City Animal Shelter will provide a triage team and housing for any animals that arrive with the evacuees.

The state Office of Emergency Management is working to secure telephone service and U.S. Mail service. The Oklahoma Highway Patrol is providing security and the Oklahoma State Health Department will provide medical assistance.

Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


Obviously that camp was intended for use. The poster was relaying his/her primary source perceptions. For you to call that conspiracy bullXXX is a bunch of bullXXXX on your part.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:37 PM
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8. Just pulled a story leader from Ardmore paper

Relief efforts at Falls Creek not canceled; state not to expect evacuees for another week

Required a registration, so didn't see the whole story. Maybe OKnancy is right that they will all end up in Camp Gruber, but clearly the Falls Creek angle is not pure speculation. Someone was looking at using their facilities.
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