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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:25 PM
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What is this quote referring to?
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 07:25 PM by ck4829
"The purity of public morals," the court declared, "the moral and physical development … so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them, should be prohibited by positive law, and be subject to no evasion."

10 guesses and no looking it up.

Who can get it right?
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:26 PM
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1. Gotta be 1930s germany n/t
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:26 PM
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2. No, try again
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:26 PM
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3. FOX News?
:shrug:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:27 PM
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5. No, try again
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RoBear Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:27 PM
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4. Homosexuality.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:27 PM
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6. No, try again
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:28 PM
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7. I'm going to take a wild guess that it's a court ruling from the early
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 07:39 PM by ET Awful
20th century regarding miscegenation (as it was called at the time).
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:29 PM
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11. Bingo! We have a winner!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:30 PM
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12. I don't know that I've ever seen it before, but that's just what it sounde
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 07:31 PM by ET Awful
like to me, what with the blather about natural law and such.

on edit: I just searched, and I was only half right . . . subject was right, but I had the date wrong . . . looks like late 19th century.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:33 PM
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18. That's miscegenation
Interracial breeding.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:39 PM
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20. Typo - now fixed. n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:28 PM
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8. desegregation ala Rehnquist? n/t
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Robertwf Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:29 PM
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9. Quote
I believe it is part of a letter wriien by Jefferson to Adams during Jeffersons presidential campaign
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:29 PM
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10. Slavery?
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:31 PM
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13. Mixed marriages
something to do with Jim Crow laws?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:32 PM
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16. Yes
It's kind of scary though when a person can understandably confuse this quote with something that was said about GLBT people.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:32 PM
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14. Kinney v Virginia?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:32 PM
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15. White supremacists used to justify for miscegenation laws...
...which outlawed interracial marriages back in the 1800's:

<snip>
4-19-04

Why the Ugly Rhetoric Against Gay Marriage Is Familiar to this Historian of Miscegenation
By Peggy Pascoe
Ms. Pascoe is Associate Professor and Beekman Chair of Northwest and Pacific History at the University of Oregon. She is completing a book on the significance of miscegenation law in United States history.


We are in the midst of an attempt to ground a category of discrimination in the fundamental social bedrock of marriage law. I would argue that it is virtually impossible to understand the current debate over same-sex marriage without first understanding the history of American miscegenation laws and the long legal fight against them, if only because both supporters and opponents of same-sex marriage come to this debate, knowing or unknowingly, wielding rhetorical tools forged during the history of miscegenation law. The arguments white supremacists used to justify for miscegenation laws--that interracial marriages were contrary to God's will or somehow unnatural--are echoed today by the most conservative opponents of same-sex marriage. And supporters of same-sex marriage base their cases on the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, echoing the position the U.S. Supreme Court took when it declared miscegenation laws unconstitutional in the case of Loving v. Virginia. Both sides confront the structures of marriage law exclusion that were also forged during the history of miscegenation, including, as I show below, the legal maneuvering over the seemingly minor bureaucratic practice of issuing marriage licenses.

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On this fourth point--the supposed "unnaturality" of interracial marriage--judges formed a virtual chorus. Here, for example, is the declaration that the Supreme Court of Virginia used to invalidate a marriage between a black man and a white woman in 1878:

The purity of public morals," the court declared, "the moral and physical development of both races….require that they should be kept distinct and separate… that connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them, should be prohibited by positive law, and be subject to no evasion.


<more>
<link> http://hnn.us/articles/4708.html
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:33 PM
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17. Aaaah! You found the page where I found it from!
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 07:33 PM by ck4829
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 07:35 PM
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19. I see we both steal from very good sources
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