What to do?

[nadinbrzezinski]

Ok over the last few we have all been treated to horrors that nobody every believed possible in the United States. It is the planned incompetence stupid. They knew that they needed to fail in such a monumental way for people to forget that gov'ment can do good. They know that now we the people don't trust the institutions that we the people run.

In their cynicism they forget, we the people run the government, not them, and we the people shall yet again rise... so is my hope

The alternative to we the people failing is a far less free whatever remains of the United States, assuming the powers that be keep it as one nation. We may still see the break up of the country, yet we have also worked tirelessly to help our fellow Americans by going around the same institutions that they have corrupted

When in the course of human affairs a government is found to be wanting, it is time to dissolve that union in order to create a new one. Now my question, as I have asked in the past is what exactly are you willing to sacrifice, for this time it may involve blood... for we have seen just how sick the culture of corruption and cronyism has now infected our institutions.

I have now lost any belief that they will leave peacefully and go into that good night, so what are you willing to sacrifice?

The alternative is the rise of empire, and the death of the Republic... have we crossed the Rubicon?

[undergroundpanther]

1. Get the morally inferior people

The sociopaths narcisssists and authoritarians who exploit others OUT of power and NEVER trust a morally bankrupt ambitious dominating bullying over ambitious,over optimistic,self inflating manipulating,dishonest, must always be the "winner" type,who is callous secretive and unable to feel shame guilt and compassion for OTHERS ANYWHERE near a position of authority anywhere.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. yes the question si how far are yuo willing to go

I doubt they will leave peacefully

[undergroundpanther]

4. Well how much corruption

injustice,inequality,criminal abuse of power,humiliation,poverty,incompetance,spin(lying) and theft of our general welfare are you able to stand?

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. are you willing to give your life

taht is the question I am asking, for it will take some people dying

[undergroundpanther]

8. Well yes

Because what will life be worth for me living in a tyrants fiefdom,where everyone who is not a sociopath or in the dominant class who can care about others and feel for them and knows justice and dreams of fairness and love, is raped, blamed , beaten impovereshed enslaved and hated..

That is the future if we do not stop these sociopaths.1 in 4 people are sociopaths and they RUIN so many lives all around themselves and they do not care..They have no consience,, I do NOT want to live with these morally inferior abusers and con men in control of my government structures and controlling money and resources we all need,dominating me for the rest of my days. I would kill myself in a life like that anyway.

[undergroundpanther]

7. As far as it must go whatever that is

Because sociopaths and morally inferior people like them (a kind of personality problem)do not have the consience that WE have that would limit thier greed,ambition to dominate,win and control others,abuse and hate others and steal.These people are SICK and they are morally incapable of right and wrong(even though they KNOW right from wrong they don't CARE) because they have no consience to make them guilty to limit theier actions they do to others that harm them..

[Gildor Inglorion]

3. I wish I could believe there will be a "velvet revolution" in the USA

but I don't. I think Romania, rather than Czechoslovakia, will be our model, with B*shit as our Ceaucescu and, alas, a period of EXTREME chaos following the fall of the criminial regime. Well, so be it, if the result is a return to sanity, decency, and good government in this country. Old I may be, yet even I'm willing to strike a blow or two against the vile, corrupt, and evil cartel ruining our country.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. yes my take exactly

or right out civil war and the break up of the coutry

but a velvet revolution, no way... and when it comes it will be sharp and "sudden" to all not paying attention

[gumby]

9. Soviet Union style.

I've long called this current cabal "Corporate Communists." The People's reaction may well be -- vodka. :toast:

NO, they will not leave peacefully. The sacrifice you are questioning is a timely query. We will each have to find an answer to that according to our abilities.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. they are communists of the worst kind

soviet union style.. hmm that is one way

[Beam Me Up]

11. The Republc IS dead and has been for a while.

The selection of 2000 was PROOF of that.

We aren't living in a Democracy. WE -- the people of the United States of American -- ARE a subject population -- and a very complacent, distracted and brainwashed one at that. Bush is just a puppet. The question is, WHO ARE THE PUPPET MASTERS? They are flesh and blood just like us. One difference: We out number them a hundred thousand to one (I'd roughly guess). Another difference: So long as the military follows THEIR orders (and not ours) THEY hold the citadel.