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Stinky Bushes Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:24 AM
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What the HELL? MSM Is Going Pro-Bush Again?
Yesterday I was annoyed that NBC's Chris Matthews painted Bush's move to bring Brown back to Washington as a good thing, that Bush was cracking the whip in demoting Brown. In reality it was no change at all - Brown is still Director of FEMA. Just another Bush deception.

Now I'm watching NBC Meet the Press. Russert really went after Mayor Nagin. Seems to be framing it as the fault of local officials, and in particular, Nagin's fault. Now I'm pissed, because the media has seemingly turned pro-bush again, taking on the same damn Repug talking points that it was the fault of state & local governments.

We KNOW that when Bush declared a State of Emergency for LA, all coordination of relief and rescue efforts would be the responsibility of the Federal Government via FEMA. So why aren't we hearing this from the mainstream media?

WHY IS THE MSM LYING TO THE PEOPLE? WHY AREN'T THEY TELLING US THE TRUTH?

:wtf:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:26 AM
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1. Chris Matthews does for Bush
what Monica did for Bill. The only difference is how they make their money.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:26 AM
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2. Sounds like the masters are yanking on the leash. But I don't think it
will work. Everyone will be thinking exactly what you are thinking.

Too late, Kkkarl, the damage is already done!

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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:27 AM
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3. I think reporters who are or were actually there are getting the truth out
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 09:28 AM by joanne
Easy for Russert to be sitting in his nice, comfy office blaming everyone but the Chimp.

The reporters who have been covering this story, however, have really changed in my opinion. I dont think the MSM is going to be like it was before Katrina.

At least I sure hope not.

Oh, and welcome to DU!

Joanne :hi:
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:27 AM
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4. I saw Russert blaming the local officials and I had steam
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 09:28 AM by Scout1071
coming out of my ears.

The spin machine is back from vacation and cracking the whip on the media.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:28 AM
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5. I would never trust Russert to do the right thing ...
He is a punk, a prostitute, and a thigh-rubber.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:28 AM
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6. My take...
He let Nagin explain about the buses, Amtrak, etc.

I think too much damage has been done. Now, they are discussing the 1927 flood and the points being made are pretty good.

But who knows?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:30 AM
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7. It's Payday In Punditland
Just like those "poor colored folks" couldn't leave NOLA cause they needed their welfare checks, the corporate media whores need to stay true to their puppetmasters and bosses. The emotion and passion of the reality of the moment is now fading and the pundits can come out of hiding and try to control the story and the spin again.

Note that neither Tweety or Russert were down in NOLA. They sat in comfy studios and they were blasted by the blame game talking points...they're just doing their "job"...and spreading the misinformation that got them their big paychecks and large egos.

Somewhere Randi Rhodes posted the RNC blast fax talking points for this morning. Someone started a thread on this here. We'll see how close these talking asshats came to what Mr. Rove and Mehlmann want them to say.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:30 AM
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8. Even if they are asking questions that make it seem.........
like they're blaming state/local (and I don't doubt the corporate shills are), are Nagin and others answering to your satisfaction? If they are holding their own, that will go a longgggggg way, especially if it seems they're being attacked.

I didn't see the show, so I don't know. Just asking.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:34 AM
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9. At least the Mayor was at his post and doing his job
when Katrina stuck - commander bunnypants was off eating fucking cake with McCain, giving tired speeches to hand picked audiences of military people, playing a guitar and doing his usual jack off shit - and all he did once the heat was on was stage a photo op. People remember things like that a lot better than little niggling talking points spread by well fed pink men in expensive suits.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:34 AM
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10. I didn't quite get that feeling and Im no Russert fan.
I think he asked him the tough questions that Nagin needs and wants to answer, and Nagin's answers were honest, on the mark and dispelled the notion that he was negligent in his duties.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:39 AM
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16. I agree, in asking Nagin those questions it allows Nagin to
respond to the smears being spread by the right-wingers and set the record straight. I would much prefer that to Russert having a right-winger on there spewing the crap that is out there with no opportunity for Nagin to respond.

Nagin certainly has struck me as someone who can stand up to hard questioning and lay the facts out there.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:34 AM
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11. Russert is like a wife beater
he thinks he is "tough" beating up on a mayor and kissing up to the boss. The guy doesn't have enough testosterone to emasculate a flea.
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freemen2005 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:35 AM
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12. $$$ talks
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:36 AM
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13. The media corporations are part of the Corporatocracy.
They have one mission: to perpetuate their position. They are not going to do anything different. Do not expect them to be converted.
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Qibing Zero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:38 AM
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14. Yeah, the morning news shows were for the most part disappointing
It's, as usual, the same points over and over and over again. I haven't watched the news in days and nothing has changed along that line. Orlando is starting to feel like backwoods country, and I'm longing for at least the globe or the NYT for some half-decent news writing.

Killing the constitution, and taking intelligent discussion along with it!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:38 AM
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15. Do you understand who owns the mass media?
War profiteering corporations like GE.

Anyone who thinks the mass media will suddenly "find their conscience" and become objecive are very naive and will be sorely disappointed.

Good propaganda has to tell the truth sometimes to maintain a veneer of credibility. That is what is happening when you think "they are finally coming around."

When we wrest control of the Nation from the war profiteers, we must install an independent media, uncontrolled by special interests.

They have become puppets for the war profiteers and ruling elite and by their unpatriotic actions, have warranted major changes in the way they are regulated.

The airwaves are owned by the people.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:39 AM
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17. Tell russert to wipe the bush juice off his face
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RandiFan1290 Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:39 AM
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18. Y'all didn't get the memo?
Nagin and Blanco were supposed to fly all over the country and set up each dome shelter to house over 100,000 evacuees.

Nagin and Blanco were supposed to drive every bus to those shelters.

Nagin and Blanco were supposed to have an endless fleet of helicopters to fly everyone out.

Nagin and Blanco were supposed to equip Gretna to handle 100,000 evacuees.

Nagin and Blanco know it is safer to evacuate 100,000 evacuees to the south of a ruined city locked in by the river and gulf instead of going north and east or west out of the area.

FEMA?

They are just there to clean up the bodies.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:39 AM
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19. Rove has his kidney stones under control?
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:41 AM
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20. I hope you are not surprised.
The talking heads have returned to their comfortable homes and now are among "their own kind." They have probably received marching orders as well as reprimands for injecting too much sympathy for the hurricane victims in the newscasts.

The media are not our friend. They are owned by multinationals and support the Bush corporate agenda.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:41 AM
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21. "WHY IS THE MSM LYING TO THE PEOPLE?" . . .
because that's what they DO . . . it's part and parcel of their role as the BushCo house organ . . . corporatism at its finest . . .
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:46 AM
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22. Msnbc is not all the MSM
You picked two of the Bush shills. Need I say more?
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:49 AM
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23. MSM has always been a Bush mainstay....
they might waiver for awhile but always seem to go back home to roost.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:49 AM
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24. somebody on DU with media experience warned of this last week
back when we were at Level 3 and didn't have "my posts", but somebody with media experience on DU (well, claiming to have it) said that in times of natural disasters, the "powers that be" tend to loosen the leashes on the media for a brief time, but then it is soon back to normal.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:54 AM
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25. Because that's what the station owners and corporate sponsors demand.
What we see on t.v. and in MSM these days is rarely investigative journalism (although following Katrina there was more of this going on then usual)- it's corporately sponsored sound bites and stories. So, Russert is clearly doing what MSM traditionally does- "hard questions" designed to spin the story in the direction their sponsors and owners prefer. Sometimes it's more blatant then others (like on Faux), others it's more subtle.

Hopefully those reporters who were on the ground and reported the story before the spin started, will hold their ground and continue to broadcast the truth. But we can only hope...
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