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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 11:46 AM
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Can we wait until 2006 ??
I do not know if we can stand another disaster or national tragedy from this bunch of incompetents. Can we simply wait them out and hope the people replace them in the next election? Or do we need to act now? Do we need to take to the streets and demand a change in our government now? Get the hell out of Washington! You all have done enough damage. We can't stand anymore of your bullshit propaganda and incompetence. Go back to Texas or wherever you want- just get the hell out!
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:01 PM
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1. I keep asking the same question and am told
that there is nothing we can do that will get rid of this group "in Total" Must wait until 2008 for for the next presidential election. I cannot figure out why these is no failsafe mechanism built into the constitution to protect us. Impeach will get rid of one or two, if it ever happens. What about the whole lot of them? Nothing!
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:28 PM
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8. The Constitution...
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 12:29 PM by ArbustoBuster
...is not a suicide pact. This is a basis of modern American law. The President can be impeached, convicted, and thrown out of office for as little as an unpaid parking ticket if the Supreme Court says it's okay.

The safety valve in American politics is that, if enough people scream at Congress, "kick the mother(bleep)ing President to the curb or we fire all of you in the next election," then Congress will remove the President to save their own political hides. But this requires a huge, well-organized, and above all vicious public outcry, and I don't see that happening.
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JackieO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:01 PM
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2. NO, waiting = complicity
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:02 PM
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3. We don't have any choice.
Regardless of what people would like to believe, Bush isn't going anywhere. He will never resign.

Never.

The guy can't even acknowledge the smallest of mistakes, so he certainly isn't going to believe that he made one significant enough to warrant a resignation.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:18 PM
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6. Even if that is true and we can do nothing about it.....
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 12:18 PM by kentuck
we can at least let them know they can't get out of town soon enough. Tomorrow is not soon enough.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:43 PM
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11. Agreed, but we need more than talk.
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 12:45 PM by TwilightZone
Our energies would be better used in getting back the House and/or Senate in '06 and making further gains in '08.

We can talk all we want, but if the talk does not lead to action and change, then it's just talk. Any civil unrest short of a civil war is unlikely to get through the thick skulls of the administration.

Not to mention that they don't care what we think.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:04 PM
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4. I often wonder the same thing. It's troubling.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:17 PM
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5. Without an actual
armed insurrection, which is illegal to discuss on this board, nothing substantive can be done to change our government before the elections of 2006 and 2008.

Maybe, just maybe, if millions of citizens protested in the streets and shut down ordinary commerce, perhaps then there would be mass resignations on the scale needed. But where would the replacements come from? John Kerry isn't going to be able to waltz into the WH. There's a line of succession, and the first 20 or more are all Republicans. Here's how it goes:
1Vice President of the United States
2. Speaker of the House
3. President pro Tempore of the Senate

Secretaries of the president's Cabinet now fill out the balance of list of succession:

4. Secretary of State
5. Secretary of the Treasury
6. Secretary of Defense
7. Attorney General
8. Secretary of the Interior
9. Secretary of Agriculture
10. Secretary of Commerce
11. Secretary of Labor
12. Secretary of Health & Human Services
13. Secretary of Housing & Urban Development
14. Secretary of Transportation
15. Secretary of Energy
16. Secretary of Education
17. Secretary of Veterans’ Affairs

I'm not sure what's the order after that, because probably no one has ever contemplated a real wiping out of the entire cabinet in some way.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:25 PM
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7. Act how?
Take to what streets? "The" streets?

What would be done when you get there? A couple signs, and clever(or not so clever) chants?

It's like talking about impeaching Bush. Just visualize, and it'll come to be. How has that been working out for everyone?

We have to wait until maybe 06, but even then Congress doesn't change much. And what leads anyone to believe that there will be some type of revolution in how the system works?

Maybe 08 will be the year, but that's a long time from now. Although when November 2008 comes around, we'll look back and ask where the last 3 years went. Damn time.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:33 PM
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9. That's what people said in the '60's...
When you start affecting the pocketbook of wealthy people, they notice. Change happens. I cannot give direction on how to "affect" their pocketbooks, but it can be done.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:36 PM
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10. No
they most all be impeached or forced to resign. They are a danger to National Security.

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