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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:17 PM
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Anyone remember Chertoff's role in the Clinton impeachment ??
I seem to recall him being a mouthpiece for the Lucianee Goldberg crowd and very partisan? And now, he is the chief of Homeland Security? And the Homeland Security is in charge of FEMA? So where does the buck stop? With Homeland Security Chief or with the FEMA chief? Chertoff sends Brownie home and in so many words, tells him that he will be the fall guy? So it stops with Brownie, huh?
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:18 PM
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1. I'd like to know some more about this guy, too. And Roberts.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:23 PM
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2. Brownie is an incompetent but he may be the scapegoat..?
For other incompetents right above him...If Homeland Security is in charge, then how much responsibility does FEMA bear in this matter? And Congress voted to put FEMA under the helm of Homeland Security...??
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:24 PM
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3. NO! The buck stops with Shrub! He appointed Chertoff,
Chertoff hired the rest of the incompetents at FEMA.

I heard Howard Dean on Ed Schultz Show last week, Fri I think. Ed asked Dean if he believed Brown should be fired NOW in the middle of this Katrina disaster. Dean said "Absolutely! I'd like to see the person who hired all these incompetent people fired FIRST!" Then of course, he said that's probably not going to happen, at least right now, and is why we have to work very hard to get control of the House and Senate back in 2006!

He also said "I don't just want Democrats in there either. That's not enough! We also need to replace the Dems who were happy to sit on their butts and do nothing but work on getting re-elected!"


Don't ya just love Dean???
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:53 PM
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9. Yea Napi I do really respect Dean
Damn why couln't he be doing Bush's job? This would be a different world.
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Robertwf Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:25 PM
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4. Michael Chertoff
I just did a google on Michael Chertoff. I found a fairly good reply from wikperia

the url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff

I personally think the guy is as slimey as a slug:(
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:43 PM
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6. Crap! That link has some pretty chilling stuff. This guy was waste
deep in whitewater, detainee torture and denial of rights, and was another lawyer instead of anything that would really recommend him to head homeland security? Why was Hilary the ONLY vote against his confirmation?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:27 PM
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5. I remember his ugly face on plenty of talking head shows. He's a hack.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:49 PM
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7. Repug special counsel
"Chertoff was special counsel for the Senate committee studying allegations against the Clintons. "

It was he against BEN-VENISTE for doing some of the questioning. Asshole then asshole how.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 02:53 PM
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8. And an incompetent asshole....
that is blaming Brownie, when he was Brownie superior who made the decisions to withhold assistance. Chertoff is not innocent in this matter. He should be fired.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:27 PM
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10. I'm not going to hang him for what he did in the Clinton investigation.
He was a PUb, and that's the opposition party! I admit, I didn't read the entire article, but he at least seems to have a decent broad background of experience. FAR better than Brown and the Arabian Horses!!!!

My problem with Chertoff is that I haven't seen that experience show he knows what he's doing with the Katrina disaster. He foolishly turned it all over to another incompetent, Mike Brown, who did nothing but make Shrub, Chertoff and Brown look like a bunch of idiots!
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