Wow. Right on cue. New "terror" threat -- ABC nightly news.

[scarletwoman]

Some guy, the "American AlQaeda", allegedly passed a videotape to ABC news in Pakistan yesterday. They just played parts of it at the top of the newscast.

I'm sorry, I was just cracking up through the whole thing. The language was SOOOO hokey, it's this guy with glasses (Rummy, is that YOU?) wearing a black turban with black cloth covering his lower face, speaking English and gesturing dramatically.

Anyway, Los Angeles and Melbourne are supposedly next. "We are lovers of peace, but if you persist with what you are doing, we will love waging war..." (Something like that -- just paraphrasing)

I hope some other folks caught this. To me it just seemed absurd and histrionic. I swear it's a putup job -- the bushies are desperate enough. Of course, I have always laid 9/11 at their feet, so I'm predisposed to call psyops on the fuckers.

sw

[NMDemDist2]

1. yeah, but the Bushit's have already proved TWICE they can't defend

the American people from enemies and disasters now haven't they?

this will back fire on them.

[bluestateguy]

2. I won't assume anything

I won't assume it's a hoax, nor will I assume it's real. There are real terrorists out there who want to kill Americans, but at the same time the Bush Team has been milking the terrorist threat for 4 years now, and there is no reason to believe that has changed.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Tinfoil clad experts jumping to conclusions. I agree, maintain open mind.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Maintaining open mind; Guy is a white kid from Orange County

That's a KNOWN FACT.

Tinfoil speculation would be saying something like, well, if you do a little research on the internet, you can find out that the guy's erstwhile psychedelic musician father was experiencing financial problems in the mid 1990s.

I wonder if Mr. Phil Pearlman still has money issues?

THAT would be the kind of tinfoil research and speculation I would expect, from some folks here.

Leaving that aside for a moment, How's this for "maintaining an open mind"- If "Al Qaeda" really wanted to issue a credible threat, don't you think they would use an ACTUAL ARAB.... and not a white kid from the OC?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. So he's a white guy from OC. That got your attention.

The fact that he's a white guy from the Republic of Orange County doesn't make it less effective or unreal. It certainly got your attention. The whole point of terrorism is terror. Doesn't matter if the threat is particularly credible or not. Once you laid the violent groundwork, then even a simple video can terrify some people and get a whole lot more to devote time and attention.

[Warren DeMontague]

37. I'm not "afraid", I think it's bullshit.

And I think the fact that these "threats" seem to pop up at times when the Bush administration is facing problems in the press or the polls is particularly curious.

[Warren DeMontague]

40. And how about this:

Remember "duct tape"? Remember the "particularly credible" threats before? Remember the "90% certainty of an attack before the election" last year?

Do any of those ring a bell?

Sure, the point of terrorism is terror. But in case you haven't noticed, the primary result of this continual bullshit priming of the "terror pump" in the United States is NOT 'terror', it's DISTRACTION, and support for the Bush administration and its wrong headed policies in places like Iraq.

[Tiggeroshii]

41. Maybe it's Karl Rove

...the guy int he tape.. =\

[Peace Patriot]

45. Oh, so THAT's where he was! Not on strike, withholding his spin

machine services from Bush--who repeatedly stumbled without it, with one doofus mistep after another ("let them eat cake")--to negotiate a presidential pardon from Treasongate. And as soon as he got it--and Cheney got whatever he was after ("gone fishing" in Wyoming)(--cleanse the riffraff out NO, total control over LA and aid funds?)--the spin machine geared back up, and Bush was put back on his meds and reprogrammed. Newsturd today about Rove having been in the hospital with bladder stones throughout. Ha, ha.

Now we know. He was making this tape.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Of course it rings a bell

Yes, of course the raising of the "threat level" before the election might have been a ploy.

Yes, of course you aren't more afraid.

But that doesn't make this guy necessarily not an Al Quaida guy, white skin and all. Just because you want an "ARAB" (your capital letters) is your focus on race. Terrorists come in all races and religions. Afghanis aren't ARABs for example.

And no, he didn't just pop up now for the convenience of the White House. I think it is rather inconvenient for the WH right after the debacle of New Orleans. A threat on the anniversary is to be expected. Rove is not the only one who milks the terror cow.

[Warren DeMontague]

49. I think, given the racial undertones of the so-called "war on terror"

it's interesting that most of the so-called "Al Qaeda" people that the gov't have trotted out have been, while maybe not white, certainly Americans- the "cell" in Oregon made up of disaffected african americans. John Walker Lindh. Jose Padilla.

Meanwhile, when they have a REAL terrorist- (and I say this not because of his color, or his religion, or his name, but because of his resume) like Nabil Al-Marabh, we let him go.

It doesn't make me a racist to point out that the majority of "terrorist" acts performed on US soil in the past 10 years have been committed by white people. Eric Rudolph. Timothy McVeigh. Hell, even that Anthrax investigation seemed to suddenly drop in priority once it started pointing back towards US army stocks of anthrax and right-wingers, didn't it?

So of course terrorists come in all races and religions. But if the so-called "war on terror" is really a war on misguided kids from Orange County, then the administration should present it as such, and stop using it -and the threat of the everpresent, spooky, swarthy, "them"- as a pretext to invade other countries.

I can accept the possibility that this guy may "really" be Al Qaeda, (whatever that means) but you should likewise consider the possibility that he's just some yahoo with a scarf and a video camera.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

53. He could be just some yahoo with a scarf and a video camera.

[LibertyorDeath]

52. Real Terrorists do not make videos giving their target advance warning

They just kick you in the teeth.

The video is pure shit.

[etherealtruth]

50. The only assumption I'll make ...

...is that "we" (read the U.S. governmant on our behalf and we, as individuals) are not going to be able to do a damn thing about it ... these threats no longer even register with me.

[wellstone_democrat]

3. they "celebrating" the anniversary THIS way?

good lord these people are indecent.

If you don't think that this was a set up in some way, then you aren't paying attention.

[sakabatou]

4. Quick! To the False Terrorism Alert Cave!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Quick, Jump to the Reflex Conclusion Tinfoil Reserve

[sickinohio]

5. Seems awful funny that we haven't had a

"terra" threat since right before the election. Now, the chimp's approval rating is down so much because of Katrina and his bungling of it (to put it mildly), all of a sudden there's a "terra" threat. Strange, isn't it??

[TerdlowSmedley]

8. Maybe in the next couple of days, we can expect a report

that they've arrested Osama bin Laden's "Number Three Man" -- FOR THE FOURTH TIME!

[sickinohio]

No doubt - I'll be watching

for that - Heck - It might even be the time now that they will even find OBL himself!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Or... killed zarqawi again

he must be the mesiah, has died and come back to life how many times?

[charlie]

20. Or a gecko

He keeps losing and regrowing that leg, too.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. Yes, the gap is noteworthy, but a threat on this date is to be expected.

[202 456]

6. There are "terrorists" who want to kill Blacks and Jews....

right here in America but I didn't see the media tossing aside their coverage of the Holloway fiasco to cover neo nazi/white power groups.

[Vinca]

7. "Be afraid, be very afraid."

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Red, orange, yellow, green and the biggest threats to our safety are Bush political appointees.

[cynatnite]

9. Leading on ABC news tonight

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Investigation/story?id=1115448&page=1

"officials are taking it seriously"

Well, yeah, since they want to scare the shit out of everyone :eyes: Now, who's gonna save us? :sarcasm:

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Nice to see them taking SOMETHING seriously.

I mean, twenty thousand black people stuck in a convention center with no food or water for several days is an excuse to crack jokes, so....

[RallyInDC]

10. could be "cheney dressed up in a costume"....

i'm serious....that is just another reason why I see no reason to wait....there has to be a loud, constant cry from america to have impeachments begin right now.....

and it has to take place in unison before los angelas, or another city suffers because that's what these thugs are capable of.

[durablend]

11. QUICK! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

AND GET YER DUCT TAPE AND PLASTIC SHEETING READY!!!!!!

[Warren DeMontague]

12. It's another one of these wayward white kid Al Qaeda wannabes! US Citizen.

Hmmm. Isn't it interesting that it seems like the only "Al Qaeda" members they ever seem to find are these misguided idiots from this country who get pissed off at their parents and try to join up?

Wow. Kinda makes you wonder if the "organization" exists at all, doesn't it?

:eyes:

[napi21]

13. I don't think this BS was real either. It's something about the

appearance, mannerisms, or something that just doesn't feel right. It has been on several other news stations, but even they don't appear to be taking this very serious.

Poor Shrub. Since they did away with those old color coded threat warnings, nobody is paying any attention to his BS anymore!

I also think Katrina shot Shrub right between the eyes! Many Americans believed him when he kept saying I'm keeping you safe! That was supposed to be the main reason he was re-elected! The storm proved him wrong! Even with 5 days advance notice, his group of pretend saviors FAILED!

[charlie]

14. This idiot again?

He last popped up 2 weeks before the November election. Pakistan my ass, these tapes are coming from a studio in Cheney's basement.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Thus proving, once again that the biggest threat to our security & safety

IS--- WHITE PEOPLE.

http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5047066,00.jpg

(And yeah, I'm white, too.)

[scarletwoman]

24. WHITE PEOPLE!!!! Run for your lives! AAAAAIIIEEEEEE!!!!!

Someone on another thread posted a side-by-side pic of this guy and Rove -- the resemblence is uncanny!

sw

[longship]

33. Let's see...

Adam Yahiye Gadahn


Hmmm. Could be.
http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5047066,00.jpg

[Warren DeMontague]

36. It is. Already confirmed.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16571991-2,00.html

[Walt Starr]

16. There is a lot of consistency on tapes from Adam Gadahn...

Every last one of them issued bullshit threats that amounted to nothing in times when Bush was having problems.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. I wonder is he a fifth rate actor working for ... CIA or rather

OSP?

[Walt Starr]

He's the same guy who issued the bogus threat Friday, October 29th

The Friday before the election. Read about this guy here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4738641

[CountAllVotes]

17. if it was in fact a legitimate "threat"

Believe you me, you would not have heard a *whisper* about any of this ... it is their worst fear - another attack and we have no way to deal with it which is obvious to the world after Katrina.

These people make me sick! :puke:

I do believe that the public is on to "them" and their sick games. The death of Rehnquist barely caused anyone to notice, next attempt was the Saddam trail (when?). It takes a lot to divert the attention to a disaster that could have been prevented. Thousands of American citizens have died for NO REASON thanks to the greed of these creeps and thugs running OUR government. :grr:

WE WILL NOT FORGET YOU INCOMPETENT BLOOD THIRSTY GREEDY SOBS! IT IS your fault and We the People Know it! NEVER TO FORGET, NEVER!!!!!

:kick:

[Bumblebee]

18. Actually, that's the last thing they need right now, with their recent

record...

[Warren DeMontague]

28. Oh, baloney. Any time someone mentions "terrorism" Karl Rove gets a

hard on.

[electron_blue]

25. not rummy, but santorum in the wig

It is rather bizarre, isn't it?

[ultraist]

29. mmhhhmmm. This tape just happened to fall into their hands today?

What did Ridge say about having to issue alerts when he felt it wasn't warranted?

"We are not prepared" is fresh on people's minds after witnessing the absolute failure to handle Katrina. Wonder if this diversion will backfire on them?

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Yes, but they are not thinking

they are rolling product out not realizing this is a post katrina world, if you get my drift

[texpatriot2004]

38. Yeah, everything has changed now after Katrina. n/t

[AlinPA]

32. As I said in another thread on this: Like clockwork. n/t

[shance]

35. Dick Cheney and the PNAC are right on schedule with their threats.

Like clockwork.

[texpatriot2004]

39. Gee Wally, would ABC terrorize its viewers? Why would they do

that? Huh Wally?

[Tiggeroshii]

42. I'm scared...

Not necessarily of "terrorists," but of far more dangerous people -like W and his cronies. I'm becoming a conspiracy follower person now, and the theories about 911 tie in well with the RFK, JFK, MLK assassinations and chappaquiddick incident.

[Peace Patriot]

44. It's getting to be positively insulting, what they think we will accept,

or, rather, what the war profiteering corporate news monopolies portray us as swallowing.

[6000eliot]

46. Something cooked up by Rove and Cheney

in Rove's basement?

[Kralizec]

47. I used to frequently reject the possibility of their involvement in 9/11,

but no longer....

[Warren DeMontague]

51. Same here. But you know, they're so full of shit about everything else...

...why not that, too?

[Bravo411]

48. Yeah, what a frickin joke.

What's scarier, that terrorists might attack or that the federal government would have their thumbs up their asses and not know what to do about the aftermath.

Given what's happened with NOLA, I doubt any terrorist group would even bother with an attack. They're probably just sitting back and laughing their asses off at how incompetent and full of shit Bush & Co. are and how the American people (the ones that supported Bush) are finally realizing it. They're laughing because they know that the Bush administration has succeeded in destroying America for them. Bush & Co. has managed to kill moe Americans through their lies, budget cuts, and general incompetence than any terrorist attack could ever hope to do.

Hell, right now our own inept federal government scares me more than any terrorist threat ever could. Once nations of the world thought America was to big and powerful to ever risk invading us. Now they know that we wouldn't be able to respond and that in the chaos we'll tare ourselves apart just trying to find a way to survive.