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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:40 PM
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And the Liberals say President Bush is Dumb...
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 12:58 PM by Jackpine Radical
The liberals like to make fun of President Bush’s intelligence. Why is it then that the average Democrat is too stupid to understand the President when he speaks in plain English? As, for example, when he praised Michael Brown for the outstanding job he had done in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina. And again when he challenged his critics, saying, in effect, “What makes you think something went wrong with the disaster response?”
I mean, consider the effects of FEMA’s brilliant New Orleans strategy. First, the New Orleans black population is now scattered across the country, thereby dissipating their voting power. I guess they won’t be delivering Louisiana for the Democrats in the foreseeable future. Second, real estate developers can now make a clean start and build New Orleans into a gigantic theme park that will put all the Disney enterprises to shame. And third, since all the actual disaster survivors are scattered across the country and are too poor to hire lawyers, there is nothing to prevent the Administration from funneling all the disaster relief money into the coffers of deserving but uninjured campaign contributors, just as Mr. Brown did in Florida after Hurricane Frances and just before the 2004 election. Admittedly, Brown was able to siphon off only 31 million for Bush supporters after Frances, but this time tens of billions will be available to reward loyalists and friends of the administration for their support, regardless of whether they actually sustained any material damages from the hurricane.
As an indication of what is to come, Halliburton already has the contracts for cleaning up all military facilities in the wake of Katrina, and Dick Cheney’s recent visit to the Gulf Coast was followed a day or two later by the announcement that Halliburton subsidiary KBR got a no-bid contract for the civilian cleanup as well.
How, in the face of all this evidence of the Administration’s brilliant planning and execution of disaster relief efforts after Katrina, could any Democrat be so blind and stupid as to accuse our President of not being prepared, or of not being able to rise to the challenge of an unexpected opportunity?
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:44 PM
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1. Scary, but too true.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:44 PM
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2. Don't think Republicans in LA are happy with Katrina response
or that the GOP can afford to write off 9 electoral votes
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:44 PM
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3. My sentiments exactly.
And it's that type of thinking that shows why we're winning the war on terror - we're winning because bush's strategy has been to create instability in the Middle East, recruit new terrorists, and militarize the US, all in an effort to make his oil and military complex buddies rich in the process.

Stupid like a fox.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:47 PM
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4. By there standards, Iraq was a brilliant victory as well.
We'll be all set if Halliburton can operate in radioactive oil fields.

:nuke:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:50 PM
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5. Yep
It all adds up. There is a photo of Bush watching the weather channel and he has on his reading glasses and someone said it was from August 28th. Bush knew exactly what he was doing. And a few days later
Halliburton got the contracts to "rebuild" the city. Don't forget Cheney has finally come out of hiding to "survey" the area. I'm sure he met with contracters and all that. But yes, you're so right.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:53 PM
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6. I hope you send this to the NYTimes, LATimes and WaPo as an Op-Ed.
Might want to fax a copy to Howard Dean, as well.

Peace.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:54 PM
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7. Well, I did send it to the Cap Times & a local paper.
It never occurred to me to try to go national with it or to fax it to Dean.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:23 PM
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8. Yep, this is how they work. It's taught: create chaos and bring "change"
which for them and us is felt as dismantlement of decency for the ideologue's agenda.
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soliddemocrat Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:31 PM
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9. How could anybody be so stupid?
Is it my imagination or have people actually gotten dumber on these discussion forums? I mean lets be honest here i thought people were supposed to be supporting the left wing party saying that the democrats were the good guys. And now you're blaming the democrats for screwing the country over? What kind of nonsense is that? The republicans are the ones who are responsible for the reason why this country is so bad. And i have good reason to be voicing out because i honestly don't feel like people on these boards have enough sense to know the difference between right and wrong anymore. I mean everywhere i look on these forums it's as corrupt as the country itself, this isn't a democratic forum it's a forum for brain twisted people who want to vote for the republican party because they think that the republicans are doing all the right things in this world when in reality the republicans have messed us up so much that it's insurmountable. Honestly i think everybody is so brainwashed from having President Bush in office that they don't even know what is right and what is wrong anymore. They don't even know who to vote for anymore in the next election, they don't even know what democracy is about :(. It's a sad fact because we live in desperate times and here the very core of democracy is falling apart right before my very eyes as we speak and it's no wonder why this website isn't getting enough funding is because people don't know what to think anymore. They're asking "Why should i fund this program? What reasons do i have to fund this program?Is the government really that bad? Do i really want a democracy?" Everybody is so bent over backwards that they don't know the difference anymore :(. It sucks it really does and i wish people would wake up and realize just how bad things are in this country and start to do something about it instead of sitting around all day nagging about the left wing party saying that we're responsible for everything that is going on in this world. I'm tired of it i honestly am. It's as bad as listening to those stupid AOL trolls on the internet who always blame the left wing party they insult us all the time and God bless them if they have a life at all. So anyways that's all for now, i hope to hear from you soon,good luck in all you do. The moderators really should keep track of the conversations on these boards and lock them up automatically so that flaming attacks won't happen because to be quite honest i fall victim to these people time and again because they are very annoying, thank you for your time and consideration.


Signed,
Greg
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:40 PM
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11. I may be quite wrong but I took the posts as "tongue in cheek"....
these are very solid Dems from all I've seen and about as far from "dumb" as Bush has proven to be from compassionate. ;)
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RallyInDC Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:39 PM
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19. GREG THEY ARE ALL BAD!!!! democrats and republicans both....
besides a few chosen few, NO ONE is saying the truth and standing up against the bullshit!!!!

THAT IS THE POINT!!!!

how are the democrats the good guys when only 1/3 of them speak up, constantly non-stop?

pelosi, obama, dean, kerry most of the good democrats like conyers are the only ones constantly talking!!!

the republicans, like jeff flake, ron paul, chris shays all the good republicans are talking with the same outrage!!!!

ITS NOT JUST ONE SIDE'S FAULT. this is what i've had to realize.

it is the corruption in BOTH sides.....there are snide, greedy assholes in BOTH parties that must be removed!!!! THEY NEED TO GO!!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:42 PM
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20. Please reread the OP Greg. I believe that you are misunderstanding
what it says.

Peace and welcome to DU!
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:37 PM
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10. He's not stupid or racist
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 04:39 PM by msgadget
He's self serving (as are all politicians) and doesn't believe there should be fetters on the executive branch (as long as he's in it), industry or capitalism. It's so hard for him to express unscripted compassion because he's absent the capacity. He sees crises and devastation as opportunities for 'new growth' and not the kind that raises up the populace. I don't know why photos of him don't include his blinders...

The blame game of Katrina has to wait because much will be happening fast and we've got to pay attention. I'm more afraid that I don't hear elected officials complaining about the suspension of laws or the loosening of hard won regulations than I am of the bandits about to profit from them and the 'cane. And, no, I don't believe they're all too busy fighting Roberts on our behalf 'cause he's pretty much a done deal save for the uncomfortable questions he has to endure (but not necessarily answer) before he gets his robes. The dems bargained away the filibuster and the right doesn't vote against itself.

Edited for spelling
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:45 PM
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12. bttft
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:46 PM
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13. Except those evacuees just turned Texas blue
maybe thats why they scared Babs so much
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 05:13 PM
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15. Think there are enough of them
to blue-up Texas?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 05:11 PM
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14. Wow, what a mixed bag of responses,
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 05:12 PM by Jackpine Radical
ranging from those who actually got what I was saying to those who read about 8 words & went into a typing frenzy.

FDR once said that we shouldn't ascribe to malice those things that can be blamed on mere incompetence.

My point, for those who missed it, is that the actions of Bushco long ago overshot the bounds of what can be explained by simple incompetence, and it should be clear to anyone who thinks about it that we're in the territory of active evil at work.

I'm not a particularly religious person, just sort of an old pagan to whom talk of evil doesn't come easy. But this crowd has me starting to believe in actual evil. It's akin to what Freud went through upon seeing the destructiveness of the World War. He went in believing that human cruelty and the like were due to twisted-up libidinal energies, but by the end of the war he was writing about the Thanatos, sometimes translated as the Death Wish, which was very much akin to the religious concept of evil.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:22 PM
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17. I think your post makes a lot of sense.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 07:23 PM by FrustratedDemInNC
This administration will recover from this through their usual PR spin and media assistance.

Rove orchestrates every decision behind the scenes and he is no dummy. I'm starting to rethink my opinions on the existence of evil, as well. These people are extremely dangerous with enough power to do virtually anything they want. Who will stop them?

I appreciate your thoughts and think it is well worth taking seriously.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:56 PM
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16. "Bush is dumb" is RW spin. They don't like being properly estimated
as cold & calculating. When you fill important governance positions with people who are unqualified - you mean to get the result you get.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:30 PM
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18. Better to be thought dumb than malevolent.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 09:31 PM by Jackpine Radical
That way they get the crowd to identify with them. Joe Sixpak is truly dumb but not vicious.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:16 AM
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21. Exactly. Bush has some dumbness. They just play that up like they
did during the debates so that they are under-estimated.
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