Shriver: If I am raped, I'm damaged goods for Arnie"

[robbedvoter]

apparently, the Gropinator doesn't appreciate other guys being "playful":


  http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/29/1417241
But I was told by Maria Shriver of "Dateline NBC" after the interview she told me if I had been raped, my husband would leave me because after all I would be damaged goods. And I have to say, I was pretty shocked when she said that. Because she said it so matter of factly that it really stunned me and stunned the entire crew that was there in the room. We were stunned into silence.

[pink_poodle]

1. Yup. She needs professional help. -nm

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[ozymandius]

25. I wholly agree. So tragic. Is this the kind of world she lives in?

Anyone who lives in such constant fear of physical/emotional/psychological intimidation is to be pitied. At the same time - how can this relationship contribute positively to their kids development?

(Daddy loves Mommy as long as she is not raped by another man.)

[The Zanti Regent]

39. She won't be living it long

Arnold will not be governor long, either he will be recalled or impeached!

[greatauntoftriplets]

49. No, Arnie needs professional help.

He needs to have his consciousness raised.

[demnan]

2. I think Maria Shriver is a classic abused woman

in their marriage.

[janekat]

8. I Used to be a Psychiatric social worker and I agree.

There is something very wrong there. Also, the fact that she said something like that publicly may have been a small cry for help.

[salin]

37. I don't think it was a cry for help... I think more it shows

how much she has internalized this view of women and what their role (subordinate) to men. I hate to say it, but I think it might have grown out of watching the role some Kennedy women played (in terms of philandering), and THEN marrying an even more extreme version.

The statement shows that the perception is so internalized that she couldn't "hear" that it was an abnormal statement, so there is no mental censorship before making the statement. To her, it seems, that this is a NORMAL perception.

[Democrats unite]

3. I htink she needs to be deprogrammed.

Intervention needed here big time!

[GCP]

4. The Freep spin will be that she 's a Kennedy woman

and that's what they're used to - (the attitude towards women from the Kennedy men).

[soupkitchen]

5. She's already damaged goods to me.

[blondeatlast]

6. With allegations like this, proven or not, how anyone in good conscious

can vote for this de-evolved bastard is beyond my comprehension.

PETER MANSO: What I find so appalling about the story you just told is that Maria Shriver apparently shares Arnold’s values. Because what I experienced with Arnold is that he’s chemically incapable of being in the presence of a woman without flirting, without sexual innuendo, without some kind of sexual play. And throughout the interview he did with me… I have no knowledge other than what I’ve read of Arnold’s abuse of women.
The attitude that runs throughout is to put it bluntly, women are hunks of meat, no more, no less. That Maria Shriver should basically subscribe to the same world view is appalling.


What more can be said?

[Skittles]

7. I wouldn't have been "stunned into silence"

I would have railed on Maria until I knocked some sense into her.

[JitterbugPerfume]

9. she is

so very sad
a man can do that to you if you are not careful and strong , you know

[Skittles]

10. yes

I've seen it. Gals who got knocked around. Who couldn't go out without "permission".

[KharmaTrain]

13. There's Something Either Bi-Polar Or Co-Dependent Going On

My wife is assisting me with composing this. Both of us are amazed at all the stuff that appears to be coming out about Maria over these past couple days...the real sub-story in this fiasco.

It's a real bi-polar thing. For some (and for the life of me I can't understand it) feel her "support" for the Gropinator is the real key in his surge. Then there are those of us who see Maria as a very pathetic-looking character that really appears to be where the real "smoke" Arnie refers to is coming from.

My wife cringes at this "Stand By Your Man" routine she's been playing the last couple days considering all that's coming out about her supersized cyborg's oversized libido. He certainly hasn't denied it and should her Hulk be elected, she'll have to play a public role in his "administration"...she just doesn't look ready to handle any of this.

She's certainly in some form of self-denial about Arnie's past...or has long dismissed it as "then" (how many of us still harbor our own pasts from our partners). My other half goes further in thinking Maria is attracted to Arnie's sexual games like a moth to a flame...co-dependecy.

Whatever it is, there surely isn't something right inside Maria. The evidence of hubby's past is too strong to deny and certainly their ops people have even more stuff that hasn't gone to print that is even more explicit. All she has to do is click on Drudge and it's another horror story for her every day. But she's asked for it when she stepped up to the podium and into the public light.

[janekat]

15. Bi-polar is a mood disorder - you're "Manic" one moment and then "Depress

Could someone be more specific about her behavior? I used to be a Psych Social Worker. So far, she sound like a co-dependent (her husband is a sex addict) AND an abused wife to me.

[LittleApple81]

11. Wives of politicians are particulary vulnerable.

Many politicians are extremely POWER HUNGRY and that is the main reason they get into politics. Domination is their game and many times it starts at home.
Arnold is not a politician, he is just POWER HUNGRY.

[readmylips]

18. This was Nixon's case...he abused his wife..

and was drunk with power. Little man bushie also abused his wife He was always drunk.

To think that in the 21st century, a woman like Maria Shriver must dress according to how her husband pig husband demands. It's quite a dark side of what is going on in her head. He treats Maria the way his father, the Nazi, treated his mother. His mother was ruled by his father, right down to how she was to dress.

Maria is also drunk with power; she's married to Mr. Universe. That's even more power than the whole Kennedy family posses.

I find it weird that non of the Kennedys have come to her defense or are standing next to her. The Kennedys are known for the family unity, especially in times of dissaster.

[Mari333]

12. Pathetic!

a REAL man would hold his wife, help her and comfort her after an assault....
any man who would leave his wife after being attacked is NOT a man, but a pig. And any woman who stays in a relationship with a pig like that is a major enabler and classic case in the Psychiatric Textbooks.

[Lorien]

20. No kidding! More and more it seems

obvious that repug men share a great deal with the Taliban when it comes to women (and fundementalism in general). Hell, I man I know is serving prison time right now for killing his girlfriends rapist (also not the right thing to do-but his anger was placed correctly, at least!)In fact, even the worst among the men I've dated would never have thought of a rape victim as "damaged goods"!

It's frieghtening that anyone would even consider voting for this abusive power crazed prick! Are his views truly accepted in the mainstream? what the hell is this country turing into?!

[sujan]

30. a REAL man would never assault his wife

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

14. I saw her on C-Span last week answering questions from women

and my impression was that she was saying all of the strong, feminist things we women say and behaving in a strangely aggressive manner, but was over-compensating hugely and it came out not believable. I felt really sorry for her.

[blondeatlast]

35. I've noticed that about her . . .

There's a "disconnect" between her words and her (even subconscious) actions.

Even before all these allegations happened, even when I've seen her on NBC, she acts as if womeone were peering over her shoulder. I guess now I know why.

Maria doesn't seem comfortable within her own skin.

Frightening--if he does this to his wife, what is he doing to their children? Worse yet, what will he do to California?

[Jen72]

16. The thing that bothers me most is the message it gives.

Arnie is an icon, he had a big hit movie this summer and to many young boys he is a role model, a poster on the wall, what that hell kind of message does that send about treating women.
I have three friends who are high school teachers, the female teachers are getting sexually harassed by their pupils.
One of my friends has been asked if she has a nice c**t and another if she gives head, this is by fourteen year old boys and they see an action hero like Arnie get anyway with public groping!!!
Arnie does not love women he hates them.

[Generic Other]

17. She said this to a RAPE victim???

I am apalled. Having worked as an advocate for rape victims myself, I can hardly believe the insensitivity of this woman.

To call a victim "damaged goods" is like saying she "asked for it" or it was somehow "her fault." As if the trauma of being raped isn't terrible enough, that this is the attitude victims often encounter after the fact illustrates why they often view the post-rape experience as being equally traumatic as the actual crime itself.

A woman who would say this to another woman is a coldhearted piece of work. And Maria still views herself as a good Catholic? She is not fit to receive communion. The host should curdle in her throat and choke her.

I curse her to experience firsthand the crime she is able to so easily trivialize. Let her face her own traumatized daughter and say such a thing to her.

There are things in this world more important than worshipping a rich dick, Maria. Publically humiliating yourself by describing aspects of your pathetic sex slave relationship with your master will not earn you anything other than the contempt you deserve.

Sickening scrawny banshee. Pitiful. But not to be pitied.

[JanMichael]

19. If that's true then she is one sick, twisted, woman.

Another blame the victim, permenently stigmatise the victim, comment by a repuke stepford wife.

It makes me sick to read shit like that. It also reminds me how utterly stupid many people are.

[Generic Other]

21. Hey Oprah! What do you think of your pal now?

Is Maria Shriver fit to be First Lady of California? Great example for women--in the 17th century, that is.

By the way, wasn't Oprah raped? Am I to believe she is "damaged goods?" Is that the reason she never married? Perhaps Maria's marriage has something to do with Oprah's own reluctance to take the plunge.

Oprah, you need to find a new friend. This one wouldn't have been allowed to hide you for a night on the Underground Railroad, and she wouldn't have had the guts to do it on her own.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. holy crap!!! arnold is far worse than whats been reported and maria is far

sicker for staying with it!!!...she has far greater meduiacla issues than anorexia...she has mental illness too!

[bearfartinthewoods]

36. you do know that this is exactly the same sort of crap the freepers say

about Hillary and Bill don't you???? you know they ponder why she stays with him and diagnose what kind of sicko she is for not kicking him to the curb>

fer pete's sake...what in the hell is this about. trying to prove we are as bad as they are? this is nothing about politics. this is just nasty assed gossip.

[E_Zapata]

40. Have you read the new RECALL pinned thread by skinner?

folks don't get to post support stuff about opponents -- no matter what it's about. Skinner says we can just turn the tv on if that's what we want.

And I think your post should go into the admin forum so you can complain about the 'content' to DU directly, not shame DUers who, as you can see, overwhelmingly consider this an intensely relevant issue.

[bearfartinthewoods]

53. there is nothing in my post that supports arnold

and the post i responded to was not about arnold. it was tacky gossip about his wife to which i object the same way i object to tacky gossip about hillary.

[lolly]

54. Really?

When did Hillary give an interview in which she said that Bill would leave her if she were raped because she'd be "damaged goods?"

[blondeatlast]

55. She's NOT exampt. She is a public figure, and in this case,

she said this AS a public figure discussing sexual assault.

[LeahMira]

23. Sad...

... she told me if I had been raped, my husband would leave me because after all I would be damaged goods.

How sad that any woman would believe that about herself.

[Nlighten1]

24. The question I have is...

did Arnold play any role in her feeling this way?

[Snellius]

26. She's deluded. Arnold married her because she's a Kennedy

In the same paragraph in which he says one of his heroes is Hitler Arnold also says he admired Kennedy for the way he was revered like a god.

[Generic Other]

29. Michael Jackson bought the Elephant Bones

and Arnie bought a silly bag of bones just because she was the lesser blood kin to an American god?

Thundering Psycho!

[Solly Mack]

27. Oh, she's damaged alright...you'd have to be damaged to make that

kind of comment.

That woman is seriously sick and in need of serious help. But...she does sound like the typical wife of a republican.

[barbaraann]

28. Arnold and Maria should have gone on Dr. Phil instead of Oprah.

They really need to be smacked with some Dr. Phil reality.

[bearfartinthewoods]

31. doesn't anyone feel slimy yet?

i'm having a hard time with this people. this is going beyond his actions and getting pretty catish IMHO.

[Generic Other]

33. Feel Slimey? Not half as much as I'd feel if I remained silent

Arnie is a sex offender.

He has been accused of sexual harassment and assault by 15 women. A teacher would be taken out of the classroom if this many allegations were levelled against him.

He may not be brought to justice as he deserves, but he will be judged in the court of public opinion.

[DemBones DemBones]

50. A teacher would be taken out of the classroom if ONE allegation

was made. I have seen tenured teachers fired after ONE allegation from a student.

Why anyone would vote for Ahnold, I don't know. I guess he's getting the "date raper" vote. ("Date raper" is the term in our family for sexually predatory frat-boy or jock types.)

[bearfartinthewoods]

34. and that makes it ok to say whatever about his wife?

like i said his actions are one thing.

his wife is something else entirely. she didn't grope anyone.

[E_Zapata]

41. If a serial killer stomped for a drug pusher for a political seat,

you bet we would question that serial killer's 'credentials' to speak for the worthiness of that drug king pin pusher.

You bet we would.

I hope the mods delete your posts based on Skinner's rule on not tolerating ANY posts that can be construed to support the democratic opponent.

[bearfartinthewoods]

42. i haven't said shit about him. this thread isn't about him and what he

did. it's about his wife. it's about attacking her because he's an ass. she isn't a freaking serial killer. it's about gossip...pure and simple and it's diguestingly freeperish.

[Generic Other]

44. She deserves to be pitied more than censured?

Sorry, I feel more sympathy for those who are unwilling victims.

[Malikshah]

46. Unwilling?

Sorry--she's willing. As long as she stays, and supports Arnold, she is enabling him. Sorry--no sympathy for enablers.

It's called tough love. What makes it all the worse is that the person being enabled is a candidate to run the world's 5th largest economy. That is just a bit more than a woman who supports her abusive husband.

[Jen72]

52. I pity her...

she has had eatting disorders which show a troubled mind without
this crap. And she has four children to think about too (including a son, what message does he get!!)
It very sad she doesn't leave him and she may have a dependancy on him.

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[blkgrl]

32. So its OK for Arnie to turn other women into "damaged goods?"

:wtf:

[E_Zapata]

38. Maria is subscribing to Arn's perp rationalization: the WOMAN wanted it

The age-old, the guy is never to blame.

She is a sick puppy.

Now, will Oprah come in and save the day and help this poor little victim of misogyny? Or will she continue to prop them up, based on O's drunkeness with power?

[KharmaTrain]

43. Oprah's Hypocrisy...Silence

You're spot on...O only cares about her rich world and her ego.

Not only didn't she confront Ahnold when he got a free hour-long commercial on her show about the past stories (and they've been out there for a long time) about his abusive nature with women, but downringht ignored it. So much for being a "champion" of battered women...especially when one was sitting inches from her.

Being one with outdoor plumbing, I've never been a fan of Oprah, but I respected her integrity. That was before she started playing "Queenmaker".

[Robin Hood]

47. Oprah is a damn freeper.

I remember back in the 80's she had a no name radical right wing republican on her show by the name of Rush Limbaugh. Not long after her show Rush started his show.

Bush's campaign turned around after an apearance on Oprah, and now Arnold. And who could forget Dr. Phil from Texas? She is a damn Operative for the repugs. I can't stand her. I hope she chokes on her damn tax cuts.

[KharmaTrain]

51. Oprah's A Disgrace

I thought her fluff stuff with the manchild and Pickles was way too cozy, but she did a similar treatment (or at least gave the same amount of airtime) to Gore. In Gropingrober's case, she didn't invite either Davis or Bustamante on.

From now on anytime she attempts to be an advocate for woman's rights someone should shout this wench down.

[Loyal]

45. What a sad story

:(