Here We Go Folks! Tenet is Suspect Again.

[Solomon]

All of a sudden, they're back to f**king with George Tenet again.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45143-2003Oct4.html

There's definitely some kind of power struggle going on right now.

Any theories on what's going on?

[leftchick]

1. I wish Tenet would spill what he knows about

9/11 pre-intelligence failures by bushco. Now seems like a great time to expose LIHOP/MIHOP.

[MGKrebs]

2. It's bizarro world.

They are criticizing Tenet and the CIA for not coming up with the intelligence to support their preconceived beliefs. Even though there is STILL no evidence to back up those beliefs.

So: Tenet was right, but he will be blamed.

[Eddie Current]

3. it's all out war

The Whitehouse and their apologists have to discredit the CIA or this administration is toast. They are desperate. spin spin lie lie discredit slime and lie.

My guess is the CIA knew full well the tactics that the Bush administration would use against them and I would bet they were ready for this. In other words this is going to get ugly. no make that FUGLY! this is historic epic stuff...

on edit: typos

[alfredo]

8. Let's see, mess with a super spy agency. Sounds smart. Yeah right.

You think the RNC is good a digging up dirt, well wait and see what the various agencies can dig up on the Bush crime family.

Let's do a survey of what governmental agencies that have not been hurt by Bush. Probably easier than listing the ones hurt.

[KittyWampus]

13. Yup! Maybe Even Shakespearian

Maybe even BIBLICAL.

"this is historic epic stuff..."

[Cocoa]

4. Peter King was just on MSNBC trashing the CIA

It seems to me the CIA is in a good position on a lot of these things.

With the Niger story, they successfully got the administration to remove it from an earlier speech, so for the SOTU, Bush had to go to British intelligence. Doesn't look good for Bush there.

I think there was something similar with the aluminum tubes. Bush used it after it had been discredited, either by the CIA or it might have been the State Dept.

Incidentally, the State Dept. is also under attack by the neocons. They're really getting isolated these days aren't they?

edit: King is a repub. congressman from Long Island.

[bluedog]

7. seen that

this guy was turning this around to make it look like the CIA did it...like it was all a undercover coup against bush.....they had better be very careful on what kind of shit they are on the talk circuit promoting.....the CIA is on their republican asses on...the worst is yet to come!

[HootieMcBoob]

10. It seems to me that ...

this feud with the CIA is seriously crippling not only this administration but the entire Republican party who are enabling it in its attempts to spin intelligence.

It's gonna be very difficult for Republicans to maintain the illusion that they are the party of foreign policy, national security, and defense. Particularly now that they have decimated the military by spreading it so thinly by starting a war based on faulty intelligence that the CIA told them was bad and then tried to blame on CIA incompetence and have outed one of the CIA's clandestine agents, jeopardizing the agency's work on WMD proliferation. All of this to start a war that was planned by people with little or no military experience after being warned that it was a bad idea by the people in the military. A war that has been incredibly mishandled and is costing us billions of dollars, thousands of American casualties and the lives of thousands more of innocent civilian Iraqi citizens.

And now the Democratic Party has two former military heros in Wesly Clark and John Kerry giving Bush shit day in and day out. And former CIA officers on television every day calling the BFEE on their lies.

The Republicans may soon see one of their legs knocked right out from under them in the eyes of the American public.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

11. The State Department is now allied with the CIA in this power struggle....

...and the CIA has very powerful allies within the remainder of the intelligence apparatus, the DOJ, Congress, the Pentagon, and the military itself. All of those groups have come to realize that the Bushies have led them astray, and they're extremely unhappy. Even the major corporations, major backers of the Bushies, are unhappy to the extent of unleashing the media against the Bushies. The CIA would never have taken the step of publicly airing a dispute with the White House unless they had cleared it with their allies in advance.

Far from being isolated, I'd say that the State Department is being enormously helpful to the CIA and anyone else at this point in time. Remember, it was Colin Powell that was made to look extremely bad when he gave his speech to the UN using intell that the Bushies told him to use. And that intell was straight from the Blair-ites, not directly from British intell. By the way, British intel is fighting the same battle as the CIA...the Blair-ites, just like the Bushies, are making public statements that are at complete odds with British intell's assessments of Iraqi WMD capabilities.

Powell is an old hand at political infighting and spin...remember the cover-up of My Lai and Desert Storm Syndrome? He has a lot of friends in high places.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. NOT very smart

on the WH's part! The wrath of the CIA will now come down on this administration. I CAN'T wait! :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. That article represents nothing but the spin of the Bushies who...

...now find themselves in deep trouble. The Bushies are trying desperately to fight out of a box of their own making, and the box is shrinking.

The power struggle has to do with where this country is currently headed as opposed to where the country should be headed. The bald-faced attempts by the Bushies to seize large chunks of power through the Patriot Act has not been received well by people at all levels and in both major parties. The power struggle is nothing less than an major attempt to either cripple the Bushies by removing a person or persons of heavy influence within the Executive Branch, or to have the Bushies removed from power entirely. Big game, big stakes.

Tenet is well-respected not only within the CIA, but also by the members of Congress. He has additional strong allies in a number of other departments to include the DOJ, the Pentagon, and the various branches of military intelligence. IMHO, Tenet would not have gone public with his request for an official criminal investigation of the White House (the Bushies) if he had not already cleared such actions with his allies.

IMHO, the Bushies picked the wrong agency to fight...the last two presidents to do so met with a disastrous end. JFK in Dallas, and Nixon as a result of Watergate.

[sattahipdeep]

9. Undisclosed source

American money is buying guns, uniforms, vehicles, and almost
everything else for the new force including 40,000 AK-47 assault
rifles bought for $59 each from an undisclosed source.


On Wednesday the Iraqi council, in a testy
exchange with the occupation administrator,
L. Paul Bremer III, challenged an American
decision to spend $1.2 billion to train 35,000
Iraqi police officers in Jordan when such
training could be done in Iraq for a fraction of
the cost. Germany and France have offered to
provide such training free.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/10/04/international0948EDT0510.DTL

[trof]

12. Here is a most excellent explanation

of what's happening and why.
(in my humble opinion)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/974912.asp

[Triana]

14. Tenet Takes Fall for Karl Rove eh?

How convenient (again)

[lovedems]

15. O.K. I am totally confused!!!!!!!

I thought the neocons were blaming Clinton for 9/11 and the CIA because Tenet was the only "holdover" from the Clinton administration. Now we find out that he has long ties with the Bush family. The lies are insurmountable. Are they EVER going to stop? Wasn't it the esteemed FATBOY (Rush) who started the whole blame Tenet because he was under Clinton. They sure do think the American people are stupid.

[Solomon]

16. What I'm Confused About Is I Thought That The CIA

has always been controlled by Poppy, even after he left the Presidency.

There is definitely something big going on. I've never said this before, because I didn't want to start a flame, but I thought the early talk about Clark secretly being undecided about whether to declare as a democrat or republican was a clue.

Somebody is so pissed at Georgie that the thought was floated of having another republican fight him for the republican nomination. When you think about that, the only person with a chance of doing that would have to be a well-decorated general.

The fact that he declared as a democrat suggests to me that the power struggle is not necessarily about democrat vs. republican.

Please Clark supporters, I'm not flaming Clark. If you've seen my earlier posts, you know I was very appreciative of him entering as a democrat, and still am. We need a high profile someone to dispel the myth that democrats are soft on security.

[salin]

17. I am loathe to imagine who cheneyco would put in charge of the CIA

given the chance.