'Low body count reflects successful evacuation'

[cynatnite]

I'm paraphrasing, but that's what a parish coroner was saying on the Today show. He also said everyone believed the count would be thousands and made a point of saying the low body count reflects how successful the evacuation was.

[applegrove]

1. Except for the people who died needlessly in their attics or in the dome.

The people who died in hospital without rescue or generators to keep them alive in intensive care.

1 is too many. 100 is a travesty.

[Teaser]

2. We really should wait

until we actually know the body count.

[Henny Penny]

17. We really should wait...and so should the coroner! n/t

[Midlodemocrat]

3. Okay, I'll buy that. But we need to spin it to reflect that

it was the local and the state government that proceeded with the evacuation....just like the freeps were saying last week that the local and the state government were responsible for NOT evacuating.

[applegrove]

8. We don't spin. We just tell the truth. And - when possible step back

and let the truth speak for itself.

[Midlodemocrat]

9. Of course you are right. Poor choice of words.

But, I think you get what I meant.

I have spent the last week defending the governor and the mayor while the freeps were crowing about not having the federal government do everything for you, blah, blah, blah....so this news, if true, would shut them up.

[applegrove]

10. Yes. But yes - with freeps & some DUers - the push is on to get us

to ape the words and deeds of the Repuke machine. I'm a stickler for not using words like "talking points", "spin", "frame", "get their family", etc when we qualify our responces. We are dealing with the truth. We have nothing to learn form that machine.

Good morning!:hi:

[Midlodemocrat]

11. I agree with you.

I do find it hard sometimes not to sink to their level. It is frustrating to always take the high road in everything aspect.

I was in church a week ago and was telling this guy who is a real RW super fundie that Sears would match donations to the American Red Cross. I have been trying to get the word out to as many people as I could about that because I thought it was so important, and this guy said to me "I'm not giving them any money, they should have left". This guy is a COP for God's sake. Totally wears his 'Christianity' on his sleeve like a garment. Sickening. It was all I could do not to let him have it.

And, no, he doesn't go to my church. He was there to watch a friend's child make her First Communion.

PS: The Onion.com will match donations as well.

Good morning, yourself! :hi:

[applegrove]

14. Wow - Sears is matching Red Cross? Good for them.

[Midlodemocrat]

15. up to $500,000, I think.

I had made my donation prior to knowing this, but my company came out last week and stated that they are matching donations. I was thrilled because I donated a nice sum, so the match will be great.

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. I hear you

and if the death toll from the hurricane turns out to be lower then expected then that is very good news for local and state officials. Evacuating 80% on New Orleans is an incredible feat.

On the other hand, all deaths that occurred after the hurricane are mostly the result of the failure of the Federal Government to do their job.

People who died in the hurricane can be classed has an Act of God.

All people who died after the storm passed should be classed has an Act of George Bush. Those are the deaths that could have been prevented if George and the gang cared enough to cut their vacations short but they didn't.

[XanaDUer]

4. This is what I call the normalization of insanity

"Only" 10,000. ONLY!

[xchrom]

5. ok -- so it's not 100,000

it's 50,000 -- because everyone was successfully set up we believe that the efforts on behalf of katrina victims -- i.e. '' get out now'' {that's hard to do} -- was successfull?

[laura888]

6. I think they are afraid that Katrina could trump 9/11

Until Katrina, 9/11 loomed over the nation as a great tragedy that killed thousands of innocent civilians - justifying invasions, imprisonment of innocents, etc.

Katrina promises to trump this event in scale as well in the imaginations of murkins.

We will start to forget about 9/11, and start to wonder WTF our government is doing.

[wakeme2008]

7. If the body count is low

the Mayor and Gov must have done something right. The Freepers will be upset they can not blame the Dems.

[fasttense]

12. Where is the missing list? During 9/11 we had a missing list that

kept getting smaller as bodies were found/identified and the missing were rejoined with their family. Why aren't we doing this for the victims of hurricane Katrina?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. Did you see how Couric was pimping for the shrub? She had I

believe a historian on, and tried to improve the shrubs image by asking him if many presidents had as much on their plate as the shrub has now. She had a strident tone to her voice when she wasn't getting the answers she wanted.

[fasttense]

27. What a dumb question. What about WWI and WWII. Sheeeesh

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

29. She was trying that hard. The harder she tried the higher her voice got.

There is no doubt that she's a puppet.

[raccoon]

30. I didn't see that, but thanks for posting that. Another media hoe. nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

31. I really wish that transcripts were available for The Today Show. At

a time like this I would love to post it.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

16. He did say that about the evacuation, and yet he also said that

they have no idea how many people might have died in the high waters, as there are areas that are still under water.

[Skidmore]

20. That and how many

houses remain unchecked?

[cynatnite]

21. I wish they would show what areas have been searched...

and what haven't. There's no indication of how much progress has been made or how long it will take.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

24. It was on either CNN or MSNBC last night where they showed houses

being checked and being programmed into GPS. I believe there are teams looking for the dead in those houses, and later on, other teams will go in to recover the bodies.

[iamjoy]

18. What Are They Counting?

Just bodies? Or are they waiting until they determine how the person died?

Are they going to count those who died of heat exhaustion, famine or running out of medicine or only those who drowned or were crushed (wind damage)?

[KoKo]

22. What is considered a "Low Body Count" And Bushies "Funeralgate"

company are the hired morticians. The autorities use "official body count" due to drowning for their numbers, I'll bet. Bush's buddy Albaugh's SSCI Company is in there now and you can bet that the bodies are being sorted out as "heart attack," "drug overdose," "dog and alligator" attack any any other definition they can find except starvation and drowning. That's why FEMA hired them...to cover up the count.

I think we should be cautious about good numbers. But, I think the Mayor and Governor did everything they could given the little help they had.

[KoKo]

23. Some links regarding "FuneralGate" and Bush:

Funeralgate: Bush Charged With Lying Under Oath About Influence ...
Democrats.com offers independent newsletters, discussion, and activism for
Democratic voters and candidates who want political change.
democrats.com/view.cfm?id=1292 - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

Funeralgate - Bush's First Scandal
Funeralgate The Skeleton in Bush's Closet that won't go away. ... Funeralgate:
Bush Charged With Lying Under Oath About Influence-Peddling ...
www.apfn.net/messageboard/10-26-03/discussion.cgi.163.html - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

Funeralgate - GW Halted Investigation into Corpse Abuse
Bush and the Spooky Cemetery Scandal, Funeralgate The Skeleton in Bush's Closet
that won't go away. See Fox News: Gruesome Photos, Video Show Bodies ...
www.hereinreality.com/funeralgate.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages

Salon News | Did Bush lie under oath in funeral home case?
An SCI attorney says the Texas governor talked to him about a state agency
investigation, contradicting Bush's affidavit in the case.
www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/08/09/bush/ - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

Bush And The Gravedigger
Furthermore, Collier doesn't think Funeralgate will derail the Bush campaign
train: "The ... BRYCE: FUNERALGATE QUESTIONS LED TO BUSH BLOW-UP OVER DRUGS. ...
www.bushwatch.com/gravedigger.htm - 44k - Cached - Similar pages

[Watchmaker]

25. Is this information credible?

There are certainly lots of reports that can be found of specific body counts much higher than the official counts. I suppose these could all be mistaken or exaggerated. Read them for yourself and decide.
http://www.amipatriotic.com/node/1037
Broussard: I know what the body count is so far, but I won't horrify the nation

http://www.moberlymonitor.com/articles/2005/09/06/news/news1.txt
Davis said Gator has been busy rescuing as many people as he can; when she spoke to him last, he had taken over 50 people into his home to give them food and shelter. He has pulled almost that many dead bodies out of the water and taken them to I-90, where he told Davis there were about 800 corpses lined up along the road for rescue workers to retrieve.

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7000069092
But those numbers are considered low by law enforcement and medical rescue squads. One law enforcement officer estimates it is more likely to be between 600 and 800 Bay St.Louis alone. The residents are “in for a shock,” he tells the Washington Post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1473894/posts?page=2690

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/nation/12575557.htm
With the search-team's tales of horrendous findings and the official death toll not matching up, rumors in this disconnected part of the world seem to be spiraling out of control.

A Florida EMA official, brought in to handle media in Hancock, told the Sun Herald the county would not release "any more numbers" until the coroners complete their collecting process.

Several armed guards stand near the front gate of the old Alcan Cable site in Bay St. Louis, where five, 53-foot, refrigerated tractor-trailers sit behind a chain-linked fence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1480391/posts?q=1&&page=101#114

a dear friend (who is a doc in Biloxi/Gulf Port)finally called me to let me know that he was alive, said that they had found (I believe it was this morning)a shelter about 1/4 from the beach that housed 800. All 800 were found to have drown. Sad, Sad, Sad. I was relieved to hear his voice, but feel bad for what he has seen. He happened to be in the ER when the hurricane hit. All at the hospital were saved,PTL. He did, however, loose his home and all earthly possessions. He said the AFB is obliterated.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1476540/posts?q=1&&page=51#70
The death toll in Miss is in the thousands. I have now spoken to at-least 4 people who have worked down there during recovery.If you did the math between the 4 of them you would be over 1,500 alone as far as tagging bodies is concerned.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1473894/posts?page=2690#2674
My wife works part-time for an answering company. One of their clients is a funeral home up here in Upstate New York has a couple of its employees down in Biloxi as volunteers. Anyways, one of the employees called in from Biloxi - via the answering service - to let their employer know of their status. She said that they were "processing 300+ bodies per day" in Biloxi alone...

[Mutley]

26. Even the freeps know the "official body count" is a lie.

Welcome to DU, Watchmaker. :hi:

[Lorien]

28. If the body count was so low, then why were bodies left in the streets

for days? That's a serious health risk, and if only a few hundred died in the entire region (as has been suggested by the MSM) then there's no reason why the coroner's offices of the states involved couldn't handle the dead.

[BiggJawn]

32. It's not how many they FIND, it's how many are still missing next year.

"Oh, we only found 400 bodies! Sure, there's still 9,600 unaccounted for, but you know, some people probably took this as a good time to start over and leave their old lives behind...."

Wanna bet we don't hear something like that?