FEMA repsonded "much differently to Katrina than the others" -- reason???

[cthrumatrix]

IMHO... it is for a REASON - everything is.


You can't have them turn sooo many people, agencies etc..away.


There is a reason for desired chaos..uncertainty...military presence and more.


The "lack of response to this day" speaks volumes.

It's bigger than Bush... there is an agenda and it's not good.

[whistle]

1. Part of PNAC to take over the U.S. by bankrupting the country

....and installing a Christo-fascist governement.

[cthrumatrix]

2. I think it's the "controlled economic collapse of the US" -- just look

where is the $$$$ going into:

soc sec , medicare, edcuation and more


we are becoming a 3rd world country by design (it will take years but the trend is undeniable)

[cthrumatrix]

3. the media can't look back 48 hrs and connect a damn dot

[blm]

5. I have a thread going that relates to yours. There is an OBVIOUS agenda

playing out to dissolve FEMA.

If they can dissolve FEMA with barely a whimper from the people, then they can dissolve the military to privatize that, too.

Pay your monthly protection bill to Blackwater, Halliburton, DynCorp or Bechtel at the "market rate" just as you pay Verizon, Time-Warner, Southern Bell - get it?

[peacetalksforall]

11. Can you add the link? Other reasons for the 3rd world agenda...

They want total knowledge of every aspect of each life to ensure that we are submissive, silent, accepting worker-slaves who will quietly accept slave wages or compensation (a la living in stadiums) and praying as they wish.

Falling to the 3rd world level ensures a one world corporate rule.

They eliminate the vote.
They eliminate the social structure of social security while profiting. (times x number of programs)
They get rid of those who are limited in their ability to labor.
They force 'someone' to take care of the needy if there is need to sustain the life.

Their agenda for us is targeted at every aspect of our person and future.

[blm]

13. here ya go....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4754846&mesg_id=4754846

[Atman]

4. There was an AEI shill on Bill Maher's show this week

He was insistent that Bush's tax cuts have created a vibrant, strong economy. But he was also quite forceful when blame for Katrina's aftermath was pointed toward Bush. He immediately pounced on the LA governor. "Why didn't she allow George Bush to federalize the LA National Guard? That's all she had to do, and she didn't."

This was glossed over as a minor point, but I think it is HUGE, and goes directly to your "reason" angle. NO ONE could fuck up as badly as this was fucked up. There was a reason for it, be it political (dem governor/mayor), strategic (rebuilding of refineries), or the "emminent domain" angle. One big land speculation deal. Or, most likely and most scary, they anticipated the governor rolling over and allowing her NG to be federalized, setting a very dangerous precedent for future BushCo marshall-lawmaking.

Anyone with a television could see how bad things were, for days, while NO HELP arrived. No one, not one person, picked up a phone, apparently, and ordered food or water into LA. Why not? If it had to come from the top down, then it is clearly a case of controlled mayhem. They knew the "threat" was contained by the floodwaters. They didn't have to do anything by wait it out, knowing full well they'd later be pinning the blame at the local levels. They had a larger agenda, as you say.

They just didn't count on Americans actually being so upset at the sight of blacks dying. Their own racism and contempt for those of a lesser station was projected onto the American people, but the American people didn't buy it.

That is the only thing that caught these assholes off guard. They didn't realize that most Americans aren't as racist as they are.

[OregonBlue]

14. I agree with you. I think they are going to try to blame it on FEMA

burocracy. We need to shut them down now. Contact every media organization you can think of and let them know where the neo-cons are heading with this. Cut them off at the pass. Don't let them build momentum. Get some dems out there now talking about how the repugs are going to attempt to destroy FEMA in order to deflect blame, rather than accepting responsibility for the failure of the administration to hire qualified people.

1) FEMA needs to be moved out of Homeland Security
2) FEMA must be reorganized and staffed with emergency management professionals, not political hacks and party contributors
3) Homeland Security committee also responsible for allowing political appointments that devastated the agency and caused these deaths
4) The more the agency is privatized, the harder it will be to investigate graft and corruption

Letter writing campaign to Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

Homeland Security Committee and Governmental Affairs

(R) Collins, ME - Stevens, AK - Voinovich, OH - Coleman, MN - Coburn, OK - Chaffee, RI - Bennett, UT - Domenici, NM - Warner, VA

(D) Lieberman, CT - Levin, MI - Akaka, HI - Carper, DE - Dayton, MN - Lautenberg, NJ - Pryor, AR

[Land Shark]

16. In part, haven't they ANNOUNCED they want to kill the government?

isn't this admission good enough to let the details get filled in by good investigative reporting, DUers, etc.?

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4753704#4755818>

[zbdent]

6. Reason - it was not an election year

and there are Dems in the major offices of Louisiana . . .

[MaineDem]

12. BINGO

Four hurricanes in FL during 2004. An election year. Florida is important. Ergo, relief sent quickly - even to those who didn't suffer damage. Bush wins Florida.

This year, Bush is a lame duck. He doesn't have to win any more elections. What the hell does he care?

I can guess the response if this was a year ago. I think we would have been celebrating on January 20th.

[ernstbass]

7. Blanco isn't Jeb - LA isn't FL

[cthrumatrix]

8. that's what the media wants us to think --- IMHO I think the "psuh back"

by FEMA is huge. They didn't want help..why?

[KharmaTrain]

9. Arrogance & Ignorance

1.) This wasn't an election year and these weren't critical electoral vote states anyway. Repugnicans felt that they could crap all over Alabama and Misssissippi (which they did) and the vote will stay red (I suspect they're right)...racism trumps even a natural disaster.

2.) FEMA has become another dumping ground for party hacks...giving them a payback for the big money the raise during election campaigns. Those beaurocrats could care less about their real jobs as long as they fill the RNC coffers...and they know they won't be held accountable. Ineptness in this regime is promotable.

3.) It was known there was going to be major damage to the oil infrastructure of the area...just the rigs blown down in the Gulf will take years to rebuild...along with restoring the pipelines, docking facitilies and refineries. Repugnicans smelled the oil money and wished for a big disaster since it would mean opening the federal taps wide (50 billion worth)...and turning a disaster into a huge payday.

4.) If there was anyway to make the Democrats in Louisana look bad, this regime was going to make sure that would be done. Blanco's been targeted since the moment she was elected by Bittner and others...and the GOOP wants to use this tragedy to further solidify their "red" state.

Now I have nothing more than news reports and blogs to go from with this sketchy picture...and a reason a major independent investigation of this affair must be conducted...and those who are guilty of negligence prosecuted. No immunity...no pardons.

Right now we need to watch what goes on with that 50 billion...as we know it's all going in sweetheart deals and to pets of this regime.

[Bryn]

10. The Repsond to Hurricane Andrew Victims in Miami

in 1992 was very slow also. They took 3 days!! Under Poppy Bush Administration.

[Land Shark]

15. And Poppy Bush after Hur Andrew said "don't play blame game"

and Andrew helped Poppy Bush lose re-election, along with the "vision thing". Though a dark vision, Shrub learned the vision thing lesson. He didn't learn anything about hurricanes? Or only learned about how to handle Florida hurricanes?