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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:27 PM
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hell, just comfirm the crazy sonofabitch already and be done with it
it's not like we have a democratic opposition or anything, just confirm the asshole and move on, jeez. save us all a lot of time and money
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:29 PM
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1. Really...
because he's only telling the panel only what it wants to hear...when really those of us who know better---there's a sheep in wolf's clothing.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:30 PM
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3. Yeah wolf in sheep's clothing here. n/t
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:30 PM
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2. I think it's inevitable, but I'd like to find out what Feinstein asks...
since we get ONLY ONE FUCKING WOMAN TO HELP DECIDE WHO IS GOING TO BE SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICe FOR THE FEW DECADES. :grr:


(And he does have crazy evil eyes)
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:43 PM
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12. I've given up on Feinstein but maybe, just maybe,
she'll not embarass me. I've voted for her every time. :argh:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:31 PM
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4. I agree. It's going to happen so why bother pretending to oppose
the guy. We all know the fix is in. Move on. Nothing to see. Fact is, he may not be all that bad (Just My Completely Personal Opinion).
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:51 PM
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16. I'd agree with you.. however
the fact that Bush appointed him and now is pushing him down everyone's throat as Chief does make me wonder what promises and backyard deals were mad in privacy, he becomes swarmy to me in that light.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:55 PM
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20. I wonder about all that too. But * may be covering his backside by
nominating somebody nobody can figure out. I think he may "pleasantly" surprise us. But who the hell really knows? :shrug: :crazy:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:31 PM
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5. I agree. No one is going to make a stand on Roberts, so why
waste the time and capital on something that almost all of the Dems are going to "go along" with anyway? At this point it is only a distraction...
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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:32 PM
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6. I just don't even care any more.
They are going to put in whoever they want so why spend a bunch of time worrying about it.
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:35 PM
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8. I agree
The dems are just a bunch of push overs... they will agree to anyone.. they have no back bone.. I am not even watching. Its pointless. I feel as if we have all lost anyway.. Without a strong dem party, we have no voice. Its not like we get a say

sorry.. feeling very down about everything. this world is fucked up.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:34 PM
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7. tips to get through hearings
Wonkette's Tips to Make John Roberts's Confirmation More Interesting
• Figure out which senators aren't wearing make-up.
• Go through box of crayons trying to approximate the exact shade of Roberts dreamy blue eyes.
• Turn off sound, do voice over giving senators funny voices or accents.
• Turn off sound, start "Dark Side of the Moon." Freaky, huh?
• Miniputt!
• Put ten glasses of water on your coffee table, one containing poison: close your eyes and re-arrange them. Every time Specter says, "let him finish," drink one.
• Translate the hearings for your cat ("And then the senator asked 'meow meow meeeow meow meoooow.'").
• Count your yawns per hour; now, can you double that the next hour?
• Assfuck -- while you still can.
• Prank call the committee members' offices, asking "Is your democracy running?"
• Watch them with a gerbil in your trousers.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:39 PM
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9. Dreamy blue eyes? Where? Who?
All I see is this:

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:17 PM
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29. wonkette thinks he's gay
lots of internet gossip am certain you've heard:
http://underneaththeirrobes.blogs.com/main/2005/08/more_grist_for_.html
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:45 PM
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34. Wonkette thinks everyone has some sort of closeted sexual peccadillo
I think it may be a bit of transference.

Not that I don't have my closeted sexual peccadilloes :evilgrin:
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:40 PM
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10. Dems are "asking the tough questions"
What a joke. It doesn't matter what they ask him,they will approve him no matter what. NO SPINE.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:45 PM
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13. Yeah. Tough questions like this one...
What color would you like your office painted?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:53 PM
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17. if you wew a twee, what kind of twee would you be?
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:20 PM
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31. If you actually watched the questioning you
wouldn't be saying that. I was suprised at how tough biden got.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:42 PM
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11. Are these arrogant bastards in our office talking just to listen
to themselves. Is there a point here? Are they just blowing hot air? SHUT UP. STFU!
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:47 PM
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15. I know--it's nauseating all this blow hard bullshit amounts to nothing
Why bother?

We know the guy is a whack job but we also know that most of our Dem Reps will sit and spew and posture and then vote to confirm the asshole anyway...what is the point to this?

So these shitheads can sit and talk about nothing for hour after hour after hour?

I wish they would all just STFU
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:54 PM
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18. It amounts to Posturing
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 01:55 PM by insane_cratic_gal
and praying that we won't go look at Biden's record (or whom ever else) to see if he did vote him in. Like he did Condi, Owens, Chertoff, Gonzales.. anyone else I missed?

He does talk a good game.. but that is all he just talks. I want actions to back up your words Biden! Be the raving Liberal you come off as.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:45 PM
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14. recommended.
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:54 PM
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19. Is anyone here actually watching
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 01:55 PM by jim3775
Instead of just criticizing. Biden and Kennedy did a great job hammering him with questions. At this point in time (the question period) what would you recommend, not question him?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:55 PM
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21. i suggest we all invest in vaseline and knee pads
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:56 PM
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22. watch how Biden votes
then tell me what you would recommend.
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:58 PM
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24. Thats not the point
The general sentiment is "just confirm him already". You complain about how the dems appease the repubs and then you want the dems to not ask questions?
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:00 PM
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25. It is the point
they will bitch, yet roll over.. we are just telling them to the roll the fuck over now and rid us of the bullshit.
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:09 PM
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27. It's not bullshit
Did you listen to Biden's 30 minutes of questioning? Kennedy's?
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:54 PM
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35. I listened to him
Biden talks a good game, he's grandstanding. But at the end of the day he doesn't mean anything. He'll still vote him through. It's called principles, if you don't stand for something you stand for nothing.

Quite frankly, it's a fresh slap in the face every time he does it.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:07 PM
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26. Yes I'm watching. I'm wondering on what grounds the Dems
that vote against him will vote against him - he's not really giving anything away. I suppose they can vote against him just on the basis of being a conservative and what that means.

Did you hear what he said about one of the justices he most admired who I think used to be Atty General?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:56 PM
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23. might as well
the deed was done in November 2004.

Bill of Rights....R.I.P.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:11 PM
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28. Well, that's what has been done all along during B admin
confirm and move on...Look where it got us...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:19 PM
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30. I agree. Ain't nothing' going to change until we have...
1. Paper ballots hand-counted at the precinct level (--Canada does it in one day, although speed should not even be a consideration, just accuracy and verifiability)

or, at the least

2. Paper ballot (not "paper trail") backup of all electronic voting, a 10% automatic recount, very strict security, and NO SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code! (...jeez!).

-------

Thereis bipartisan corruption in the new electronic voting boondoggle. Dem election officials signed contracts with Bush buds at Diebold and ES&S including "trade secret" vote tabulation code. Bad, bad. But the best hope for getting back our right to vote is these state/local venues where the power over election systems still resides, and where ordinary people still have potential influence.

Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

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The bad guys did this back in the 1920s. While they destroyed the U.S. ecomony (resulting in the Great Crash of '29), they put their dinosauric, robber baron appointees on the Supreme Court, and FDR had to struggle against them to get his New Deal program going, with half the country unemployed and starving.

But history does not repeat itself. It is a gyre--a spiral--on which certain themes keep recurring at somewhat predictable intervals, but with human beings always having the opportunity to see them differently, and to improve, change, grow and evolve. Perhaps out of this debacle will come an improved economic system that is produced not by bloody revolution (the old way) but, rather, peacefully, with a new recognition of the necessity for peace (war and bloodshed usually hurt the poor the most), and a new understanding of what is equitable and right, as has occurred in Venezuela, Europe, Scandinavia, Ireland, Canada, India, South Africa, South Korea, and other places.

Historical models such as the Roman Empire, the Third Reich and the Great Depression can teach us many lessons, but they cannot predict what we, some of whom know those lessons, will do, or how the creative human spirit, ever evolving, will meet new crises.

What we see dying may not be our democracy, but rather the wedding of our democracy with predatory capitalism, never a comfortable fit, in the best of times, and highly destructive now. Predatory capitalism is destroying its host (our democratic country). It is a parasite, and by no means essential to democracy. You can have capitalism without the predatory. And you can have healthy trade, business and individualism, without exploitation and a huge divide between rich and poor. And you can achieve this peacefully, provided that we are able to vote (and have our votes counted accurately in transparent elections).

Into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

(We will deal with Judge Roberts later. If we restore our right to vote, while we still have time, we will be able to do many things, including invalidating the 2004 election and all its works!)
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:23 PM
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32. Agreed. I don't care for charades.
Lovely song and dance, but I already know the ending...

BTW, WTF was up with Kyl's questions? Can you tell us what it was like to represent a death row inmate pro-bono? What?
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:38 PM
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33. why doesn't specter just sit next to roberts as his legal counsel?
.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:58 PM
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36. Do Roberts need 60 votes?
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