Who lost New Orleans?

[Kickin_Donkey]

Bush lost New Orleans.

We need to sing it far and wide and often. There's the framing phrase for ya.

Bush even "admitted" as much.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. I understand and applaud your politcal motives

but I really hope N.O. isn't lost for good.

[NYC]

3. If it is lost, it isn't by accident.

Who gains? Why are well armed mercenaries (Blackwater Security) roaming the streets of New Orleans?

[judy]

2. No, Bush did not lose New Orleans...

As a matter of fact, I'm afraid he won it!

Those who lost New Orleans are the thousands of people now homeless, disenfranchised, and forgotten. Their city has been stolen from them, and when Halliburton, Bechtel and former FEMA-chief Allbaugh are through with it, it will be all brand new condo and mansions, and malls, and "exciting investment and development possibilities".

What will happen to the former inhabitants of NO? To the little houses they lived in, rented, or patched up, or built? Whaddya think??

Read Naomi Klein: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050502/klein

Let the People Rebuild New Orleans (Must Read!)
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050926/klein

[Kickin_Donkey]

12. I realize the residents are and will lose out ...

but this was just a rhetorical device to damage Bush, along the lines of "Who lost China?" after the Communist Revolution of 1949.

Cheers

[MissMarple]

4. Bush did. The breaking levees doomed New Orleans, not Katrina,

not the Super Dome, not the Convention Center. It was the refusal to fund the levee repair and to maintain them to withstand a major hurricane.

Now, New Orleans will be parceled out for gentrification. Well, the city and the state should get all over that one. Affordable, safe housing should be at the top of the list.

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Bush did cause the flood

but not because of years of neglect. The cause is more immediate. Nagin asked for helicopters to be sent to drop sandbags on the levees. Nagin had the sandbags all he needed was the copters. FEMA decided to redirect the helicopters to a different mission instead and the 17th St. levee breached.

[MissMarple]

9. I hadn't heard that. That makes it even worse. Source?

:nuke: George is such a jerk.

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. Of course

WDSU - New Orleans

POSTED: 10:02 pm CDT August 30, 2005

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin is "very upset" that an attempt to fix the breach in the levee at the 17th Street canal has failed, and he said the challenges that the city is facing have "escalated to another level."

"The sandbagging that we had hoped would happen didn't materialize today, so the water continued to rise at that particular location," he said.

<snip>

He said the "bowl is now filling up" and the entire city will soon be underwater.

Nagin said the sandbagging was scheduled for midday, but the Blackhawk helicopters needed to help did not show up. He said the sandbags were ready and all the helicopter had to do was "show up." He said after his afternoon helicopter tour of the city, he was assured that officials had a plan and a timeline to drop the sandbags on the levee breach.

He said he was told that the helicopters may have been diverted to rescue about 1,000 people in a church, but he is still not sure who gave the order.

http://www.wdsu.com/weather/4917809/detail.html


I think this one going to come back to bite them.

[MissMarple]

13. I sent this to Big Ed, They may have talked about it...but it won't hurt

:)

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Mind if I ask

Whose Big Ed?

Thanks

[MissMarple]

15. Progressive talk. Ed Schultz.

He used to play some football, was a sports commentator, a Republican turned progressive. He is IMHO a conservative populist progressive. He irritates some of the folks here, but he pulls in a lot of Republican listeners and makes some sense for them to be against George. It's good. :)

http://www.bigeddieradio.com/

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. Cool

Let me know if he uses it. Thanks.

[Freedom Socialist]

5. Everybody lost the damn city...

All levels of government are responsible for underfunding the necessary anti-hurricane infrastructure.

Still, Bush's reponse made the situation exponentially worse, and now the right-wing corporate media is trying to cover his ass by vastly under-reporting the body count.

[TahitiNut]

6. Smirk sacrificed it; the people lost.

Whole cities are obliterated on the neocon altar of greed and power.

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[DoYouEverWonder]

11. In the end

they may even be canonized.

[TahitiNut]

17. (hmmm) What'd I miss?

:eyes: