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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:21 PM
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Kurt Vonnegut on the Daily Show
:D
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:25 PM
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1. rummy is so dumb...
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 10:36 PM by paineinthearse
He thought he could take over a country of 27,000,000 muslims with big bangs and 200,000 soldiers who could not even say "hello" in Arabic.

edited * to rummy, thanks.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:26 PM
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3. he soothes my soul
:D
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:33 PM
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14. Actually he was talking about Rummy.
The joke was that * was not the dumbest in this admin but Rummy. Still, as far as I am concerned, * is right up there.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:35 PM
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16. Not Bush. The Sec. of Defense.
He was making a point of saying something nice about bush. The dumbest man in Washington is Rumsfeld.

/pedantic
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:36 PM
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18. I caught that
but didn't catch it in Pain's post.

Rummy is a fucking Dummy.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:36 AM
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35. Vid Clip
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:56 AM
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49. this link deserves a kick for the daytime people
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:25 PM
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2. "Mr. Vonnegut, it's sad for me to see you lose your edge."
Says Jon, extremely facetiously.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:34 PM
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15. O.K. all you Vonnegut readers, you're using BIG words again.
Let's dumb it down a little so those of us that don't read so good know what the hell you talking about.
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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:48 AM
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33. That is the funniest cartoon. I just love it.
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Meatwad Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:26 PM
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4. I never knew how awesome he was...
until I saw him on Bill Mahar's show last week.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:27 PM
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5. God, I hope he makes it through, it seems like...
...he's pushing his physical stamina.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:31 PM
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9. I thought the same thing. You know, it seems to me, when I see
people his age, out there, pushing themselves to make such important points and share such precious views, it is because they might feel they must. They know the deal. He certainly knows the deal.

Thanks Kurt!:yourock:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:28 PM
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6. he's still got it...
every last bit of what makes Kurt Vonnegut himself.
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:30 PM
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7. Precious. thanks for the heads up.
"the most overused liberal talk points". to be posted on the web.
however the first, " forgive those who trespass, and no one had better trespass on me, cause I will cut them a new one." What an american icon.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:32 PM
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13. I need to find that when it gets posted
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:43 PM
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20. Probably already posted as show is taped earlier in the day.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:47 AM
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32. Can't find it on The Daily Show website - help!
anyone - I have been dying to read this.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:47 AM
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40. Me either, I haven't seen it
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:30 PM
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8. That was amazing. I may have to re-read his books.
He truly is a genious and boy does if feel good to laugh. I say this every night when I watch this show. Sure is a relief to have a bit of respite from the horrendous images of Katrina and the rest of the nightmares going on at the moment. What a great show.
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leftylady Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:50 AM
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34. Read The Sirens of Titan
I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:31 PM
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10. Breakfast Of Champions was my first "real" book.
I cannot recall so much of any other book I've ever read. I named a cat Kilgore. I learned how to draw an asshole. I learned how awesome it is to actually read. Kurt almost brought me to tears tonight, and I don't even know why. Maybe because I see this brilliant man sitting there, barely able to speak, still fucking brilliant. While our country is led by a simpering dolt, who, ironically, is also challenged in his speech, albeit for entirely different reasons.

Vonnegut is a god for our times. It was a pleasure seeing him on TDS, as well as on Bill Maher's show this week.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:36 PM
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17. Cat's Cradle and Slaughterhouse Five are up there for me.
Religion, technology, futility of war, you name it, he's probably written a book or two on it that will you have you laughing and crying on the same page.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:44 PM
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21. He is 82 years old....
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:15 PM
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23. Me, too!
Then Cats Cradle.
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AAARRRGGGHHH Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:45 PM
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25. Great Book,
I love The Sirens of Titan, too.
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AAARRRGGGHHH Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:45 PM
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26. SELF DELETE
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 11:46 PM by AAARRRGGGHHH
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AAARRRGGGHHH Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:45 PM
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27. SELF DELETE
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 11:46 PM by AAARRRGGGHHH
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:17 AM
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42. He has emphysema.
John Irving gave a hilarious recounting of trying to save Vonnegut from choking last month on TDS. The punchline was that he wasn't choking on food but his coughing was from emphysema.

Bless the old guy.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:31 PM
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11. So, Bush is not the dumbest man in Washington. It's Rumsfeld.
He thought he could take over Iraq with a bunch of big bangs, and 200, 000 soldiers who couldn't even say "hello" in Arabic.

Vonnegut's a great man. We might not see much more of him. He looked frail.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:32 PM
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12. He had me going about the "intelligent designer" stuff until
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 10:32 PM by Dudley_DUright
the "hippos, giraffes and the clap" line. :P
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:35 AM
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31. That was a great line
delivered just like his writing style.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:42 PM
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19. For those as might not know....
...Vonnegut was an allied prisoner held at "slaughterhouse five" DURING the allied firebombing of Dresden Germany.The episode is still debated to this day as a "war crime"/"atrocity" and informed his humanitarian writings of these past fifty years...he is the real deal..a quirky writer and citizen of Planet Earth...I LOVE the guy...
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:03 AM
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41. I didn't know that
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 10:04 AM by TNOE
thanks for that info

And Jon Stewart showed himself to be the kind, compassionate man he is in that he stood by Vonnegut until he was safely seated - I know he was standing there just in case Vonnegut got shakey on his feet - to catch him. I was so moved by him doing that.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE JON STEWART!!

Oh and edited to add - the piece on Tom Coburn was PRICELESS!!!! If he is up for re-election, somebody has their commercial made for them.!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:26 AM
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43. yep
He's seen the end of the world too. Sigh.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:27 AM
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44. What does that mean?
n/t
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:30 AM
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45. I don't have the exact quote
can't even remember which book, but writes something like:

"I have already seen the end of the world."

I think he was referring to the bombing of Dresden.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:35 AM
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46. Oh, thanks, very sad statement
He is one amazing man. I liked how he said he was almost going to cal his book the 51st State - the State of Denial.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:07 PM
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22. "Divine Engineer" bless Kurt Vonnegut, and Jon Stewart too.
That segment seriously needs to be transcripted so as not to miss ONE SINGLE WORD.

Remember at the opening when Kurt said, "You're popular with all the right sort of people?" :D

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AAARRRGGGHHH Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:44 PM
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24. Vonnegut is a HUGE hero of mine
The shows on out here (San Diego) in about an hour and 15 minutes, and I cannot wait for it!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:53 PM
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28. thanks for the reminder...I missed the earlier show and will catch the
re-run. On about now!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:20 AM
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29. that was his best interview since john cusack
great fun to watch :D

KV was awesome.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 01:54 AM
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30. my funny Kurt Vonnegut story . . .
through a rather interesting set of circumstances, the commencement speakers at my college graduation were both Kurt Vonnegut and R. Buckminster Fuller . . .

prior to the start of the ceremonies, I had occasion to wander into the men's room of the student union, where I happened upon one of the funniest sights I've ever seen . . .

now, Fuller was a very short man . . . our college president was about average height, and Vonnegut was (comparatively) kinda tall . . . when I entered the facilities, there were the three of them lined up at the urinals -- in order of height! -- with their academic gowns lifted and enjoying a communal piss . . .

I left immediately, because I couldn't keep from laughing out loud and didn't want to embarrass either myself or these three distinguished gentlemen . . . :)
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:50 AM
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38. Great story.
And lucky you. Ted Koppel and his wife were our commencement speakers.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:39 AM
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36. one of the few things i can thank my ex for
is turning me on to vonnegut, way back in the day.
i tried to recommended "slaughterhouse five" for the one chicago one book program, but the e-mail bounced on me.
he da man.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:46 AM
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37. Re-Air coming up 10am, also 8pm, EST
:hi: on Comedy Channel
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:59 AM
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39. One of the few times...
I regret cutting off my cable.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:44 AM
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47. There is more morality in Vonnegut's work than in the Bible
and a whole lot less immorality.

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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:10 AM
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48. i recall an interview with him
can't remember if it were the gulf war or the iraq war, but he refered to the iraqi soldiers who got bulldozed as his brothers. when asked to clarify, he said "All soldiers are my brothers." Almost brought me to tears.
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