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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:01 AM
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Trip to UN shows White House in Deep Desperation Mode
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 11:02 AM by kentuck
As some reporters have mentioned on CNN and perhaps other places, it is very rare for a sitting President to attend a Security Council meeting. Why did Bush attend this one? He is desperate to get his polls back up after the debacle and disaster in New Orleans and the Gulf. It has always worked for the President to go abroad or to speak to foreign leaders when he needs a little boost in ratings. However, this time, it is so obvious that it is unlikely to do much good. To the contrary, it may even hurt him more. He seems to be flailing about like a fish out of water when the going has got tough. His heavy-handed approach and dictatorial way of handling the press seems to not be working anymore, and he's running around like a small kid lost at the mall.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:03 AM
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1. Good point. I wondered why he was there when I saw a snip.
He hates the UN. I saw one piece where he was talking to an Asian diplomat. The diplomat extended his hand, very clearly, to shake hands. Bush just kept talking and ignored the gesture. He's trippin' and living in a parallel universe.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:19 AM
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13. He ignored a diplomat's hand?????
Why is this man allowed out in public?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 03:02 PM
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27. Seriously, it was amazing. The guy was obviously doing what he
thought Bush would recognize. Sheesh!
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:03 AM
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2. 3 month campaign to create "Statesman" Bush
& raise approval ratings to the high 40's.

It should work, based on the MSM's track record of short term memory loss.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:04 AM
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3. His reception at the UN was very "chilly." n/t
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:11 AM
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10. I guess after Bush's latest insult to the UN, his "gift" of Bolton,
the UN doesn't feel too friendly to Bush.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:19 PM
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25. Details, please? nt
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:06 AM
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4. As they say in show biz, bad publicity is better than no publicity.
Shrub's handlers are trying to make him look "presidential." He just looks humiliated and pathetic.

MESSAGE TO WHITE HOUSE: It's time to fire Rover - he's clearly lost his touch.
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:07 AM
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5. Why? Iran.
The PNAC guys have a one track mind. Too bad they're working for the other side and bent on destroying the US.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:08 AM
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6. Iran? With what?
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 11:09 AM by kentuck
It's all bluster and threats to prevent Iran from interferring in Iraqi politics...
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:52 AM
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24. Don't forget that if Bush wants to bomb Iran, he will
And if Cheney tells him to invade Iran he will. They already have a plan to just take the SW, where the oil is, and simply bomb and harass the rest of the country.

If that doesn't work out, Cheney will tell him to reinstate the draft. Then you've got the Roman Empire all over again.

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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:09 AM
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7. The White House has more than this up their sleeves to boost his...
numbers. They are desperate at this point and will try everything and anything. As mentioned in another post the military is saying bin Laden is sick and seeking medical help. How do they know this unless they know where he is. As I posted earlier, are we being set up for bin Ladens capture to bolster bush's ratings.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:20 AM
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15. Naw. They would've done it before the election.
I think they would like to "do" Iran and/or Syria right now, but EVERYONE is saying that would blow up in their faces. Literally.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:07 PM
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30. get ready for next year then
Since he did Iraq to get a little boost in the midterm elections ($100,000+ dead) we can expect him to try the same for next year.
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:10 AM
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8. "Before skeptical world leaders, Bush urged compassion..." AP
Bush Urges World to Crack Down on Terror

"Before skeptical world leaders, President Bush on Wednesday urged compassion for the needy and pressed the global community to "put the terrorists on notice" by cracking down on any activities that could incite deadly attacks, President Bush on Wednesday urged compassion for the needy and pressed the global community to "put the terrorists on notice" by cracking down on any activities that could incite deadly attacks,

<snip>

Bush gave his annual speech to a packed hall in which there is dissatisfaction that the American president does not support an international treaty on global warming and has not promised to donate foreign aid at a level more proportionate to other rich nations.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050914/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush;_ylt=AhVo.aLnThbDlN_JAi38qUGyFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:10 AM
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9. Well, he certainly picked the wrong venue.
The Bushmeister and the U.N. don't get along.

But, I guess in this case Beggars Can't be Choosers.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:12 AM
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11. this trip will probably backfire because
commander bunnypants'(name borrowed) boy bolton is up to his old tricks and alienating other un members. this bolton appointment just might work out!!!

ellen fl
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:13 AM
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12. It must be helping to keep the enquiry into
the lies about the war on Iraq off the MSM. It seems to have been hogging the air time.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:19 AM
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14. My Dad used to say "running around like a chicken with his head cut off!
Appropriate!
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:21 AM
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16. I heard Wolfie saying this is unprecedented that a sitting President
would attend this security council meeting. And I knew it wasn't true. I had remembered Clinton addressing the security council. Google is your friend.

http://www.un.int/usa/00_123.htm

William Jefferson Clinton
President of the United States of America
Remarks to the United Nations Security Council
September 7, 2000



USUN PRESS RELEASE # 123-(00)
September 7, 2000

REMARKS BY PRESIDENT
WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

TO THE UNITED NATIONS
SECURITY COUNCIL

SECURITY COUNCIL CHAMBER
UNITED NATIONS HEADQUARTERS
NEW YORK, NEW YORK

SEPTEMBER 7, 2000

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:23 AM
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17. Full Damage Control PR Mode right now--Thursday nite Speechscript to come
Go speech writers Go speech writers Ambiguities Lil Vagaries No Substance...Go
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:26 AM
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18. bush needs to show he's in charge of something!
The Gulf Coast has had devastating effects on his most prized political possession, perceived "leadership". Iraq has hundreds of people killed or wounded today. The world has seen the amazing amount of poverty that exists within the US and he no longer has moral authority to speak about human rights or democracy.

Me thinks there is also trepidation over Fitzgerald wafting in from the background too.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:27 AM
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19. The boy is scared sh*tless, no doubt about it. Pretending to be a
commanding world leader so we forget about his bungling of the Katrina debacle. How transparent - I think Rove is finally slipping!!
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:46 AM
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21. Right! And now with the US being perceived as the poorest of
the industrialized nations, the Bush legacy is coming clear to everyone - he has driven this country into ruin and privation and the US ruling elite do not care. The rest of the world has come to see the US, as a nation, as insane. So every time our crazy president slouches onto a stage they simply look on with pity and horror and apprehension; what will the demented fool, leader of demented fools, do next? God Bless America - and - Don't Crush That Dwarf/Hand Me The Wrench....
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:37 AM
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20. 'scuse me--didn't has handlers tell him his base hates the UN??
Unless he's standing in front of them telling them to "go Cheney" themselves, his base will just short out at this. My goodness, in a weeks time playing nice at the UN AND kissing "n----s" in the devestated Katrina region is just enough to make them choke on their crosses!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:50 AM
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22. W lost 10 points with the CONSERVATIVES
8 with Independents
and 2 with Dems (no where to go on that count anyway)

This isn't going to sell with the cons (if Fox News mentions it).

Realize that if they don't have him to go out and campaign for the midterms that they are in huge trouble and he has no real purpose for them.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:50 AM
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23. Sorry folks but his trip is normal
This is the annual opening of the UN's new session. Happens every year and the President of the US, no matter who he is, usually attends.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 02:36 PM
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26. I have never heard such bs as his speech

He spent more than his alotted time (of 4 minutes) and he publicly absused other members in his speech. Hardly diplomatic behaviour!! More Bolton-like behaviour.

He is certainly not pResidential material and I fail to understand how the US could elect such a moron!!
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 03:13 PM
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28. We Did Not Elect Him He Fucking Stole It
The shit he dribbled at the UN today was pathetic. Utterly childish and beyond the pale. With poor US citizens being treated like chattel he spoke about poverty and freedom?

I wanted to kick the TV my partner would have killed me for that so I restrained myself. Bush is an abject fucking miseable failure.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 04:55 PM
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29. Desperate so that the MSM cannot test out just how much he wants
the whole world to fall apart..he shows up at the UN after insulting it time & again.
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