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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:22 PM
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Our Voice has been Silenced
Today I look around me and see people who are suffering from the effects of our government. More dead in Iraq, more bodies being hidden from the media in the gulf states, more people unemployed, more bankruptcies and more people who abhor the leader of our nation. A nation we were once proud to live in. A nation that I once felt proud of the right to have my vote counted.

Today, I live in a nation where corporations count the votes. A nation controlled by leaders who have no regard for human life and suffering. A nation under the control of a party who doesn't care to investigate actions that led to the deaths of 10,000 to 40,000 of my fellow citizens. A nation who's congress won't investigate facts that support the theory of a preplanned war for all the wrong reasons. They don’t care how many are killed in Iraq. They don’t care they are continuing a war for oil at the sake of our young men and women, much less how many innocent Iraqi citizens they kill and torture.

Today, I look back at all the hope we had last fall, and I remember the enormous excitement of the people who hoped to take back our country. Where are they now? Yes, the numbers of Americans who want Bush to be impeached are growing enormously, but where are they? Are they calling the media to ask questions about corporations owning our election process? Are they attending Board of Elections meetings to demand accountability in our elections? Are they calling their representatives to ask for paper ballots? Are they supporting those that are? Where are our leaders? Why are they not screaming at the top of their lungs against what is happening?

Today, I have no faith our congress will listen to our pleas. Do you honestly believe they want fair elections with every vote counted? So what if they get thousands of calls a day? So what if all their constituents are mad as hell? A simple call to a corporation who will be coding the vote eating machines, and presto, they are reelected! It is no wonder they are doing whatever they want, regardless of how many of us express our outrage.

Today, I realize GI’s in America’s Gulf are being forced to hide bodies and hold guns against our own people. Our armed forces are supposed to protect us from evil, not BE THE EVIL. Oh yes, I realize they are only carrying out orders from the Commander in Chief, but today, I wonder how long it will be before they wake up and realize they are contributing to our problems by following the leader.

Tomorrow, I hope we can wake to an America that is truly free again. I hope to hear outrage from my fellow citizens about the election fraud. I hope to hear the media announcing they heard our cries. I hope to hear an announcement that impeachment hearings have begun. I hope to hear congressional members who have a conscience stand up and say “We have to reverse the take over of our country.” I hope to hear GI’s who say NO, we won’t be a part the Republican plan against its own citizens.

Tomorrow is only a dream that will soon wither into the atmosphere. The reality we live in is today. The only way we can change tomorrow is by speaking with a louder voice. In order to be heard, it will take the 60 plus percent of the people who are outraged by the actions of our leader to stand together against our government. They no longer hear us at the polls. Our voices have been silenced.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:23 PM
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1. It is darkest before the dawn
we shall overcome, even if this looks really dark right now.. yuo gotta believe
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:59 PM
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9. But the dawn
in man's world does NOT come up automatically. During WWII one might have supreme confidence based on facts in action, but the outcome took time to become inevitable. These times are more uncertain, the actions of the majority, even the active resistance, less calculable, less on the same fields, less supreme.

Do we control the army, because that is how nero was eventually deposed. Do we control the press, the streets, any branch of government, any of the traditional advocacy and activist institutions? Will there be shooting, fair elections, results from public pressure alone to roll back the ruthless?

Will the other side simply have to fall down in paroxysms of decadence and incompetence? Will the bad guys destroy each other, a house divided?
Will moderates ooze in temporarily to clean up the mess, temporarily?

Unlike war, which is uncertain enough, where are the resources that MUST win and are they engaged fully enough? The opposition party has been a feckless drag upon mere hope all these years. The media cannot help, nor any leader or single organization.

The joining of coalitions of a single broad goal, to get rid of the RW extremist Coup has not coalesced, certainly too slow. The target has broadened to include the entire corporate global state(the new plutocracy vision that is) and all the enabling forces that support it.
The target has focused on Bush, effective too late except to make him unpopular, too late when lessening his power might have saved law, lives and freedom. And that was his own arrogant bumbling and the intervention of nature- where for now the dawn comes up every day on a human darkness.

I have an ultimate faith too, but it spans a range in time and misery that people can choose to expand or fight very hard to alleviate. It goes beyond the mad triumph of petulant non-entities destroying the world.

So a bunch of conscienceless frat boys, chickenhawks, braindead Conservatives, Mammonites, cult kooks and crooks, a sorrier bunch than previous clowns who dragged civilization to ruin are just sitting there because they can? Just why must the human dawn come up quickly- or ever again- if we give these insane monsters the trigger of nuclear Armageddon? For every hopeful thought there is a bomb or bullet. In our times they can't simply be heroically absorbed by the lower classes.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:22 AM
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10. "Quite Early Morning" . . . by Pete Seeger . . .
You know it’s darkest before the dawn
But this thought keeps me movin’ on
If we could heed these early warnings
The time is now, quite early morning
If we could heed these early warnings
The time is now, quite early morning.

Some say that human kind won’t long endure
What makes them feel so doggone sure?
I know that you who hear my singin’
Could make those freedom bells go ringin’
I know that you who hear my singin’
Could make those freedom bells go ringin’.

And so we keep on while we live
Until we have no more to give
And when these fingers can strum no longer
This old guitar to young one stronger
And when these fingers can strum no longer
This old guitar to young one stronger.

So though it's darkest before the dawn
This thought keeps me movin’ on
Through all this world of joy and sorrow
We still can have singin’ tomorrows
Through all this world of joy and sorrow
We still can have singin’ tomorrows.

Through all this world of joy and sorrow
We still can have singin’ tomorrows
Through all this world of joy and sorrow
We still can have singin’ tomorrows.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:24 PM
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2. gee, what if the dems did something about evote fraud/machines?
remember the dems?

Msongs
www.msongs.com/liberaltshirts.htm
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:43 PM
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:30 PM
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3. The current US is very similar to Mussolini's Italy
The media all work for the WH, all branches controlled by the same idealogues, not even token resistance from the "opposition", creeping martial law, regressive taxes. The only difference is that they had Il Duce, we have Il Dunce.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:34 AM
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11. Hope Bushie and his minions are conscious of how Mussolini's reign ended!
and realize how much hate he's engendering in the populace today that might have his end wind up being something similarly painful that Mussolini went through. I personally hope that it doesn't have to go that far, but sometimes history is destined to repeat itself! :mad:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:09 PM
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17. Mussolini's reign only ended because the Free World stood together
against him.

I do not see the shrunken remains of the Free World banding together to stop Herr Bushler. I see them drifting into BushPutinism themselves.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:32 PM
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4. And a teardrop falls
as anger rises.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:38 PM
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5. No.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:40 PM
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6. You are on the right journey.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:49 PM
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8. I know some...
...have already read this piece by Ernest Partridge. I think it's worth revisiting even if you have and a must if you haven't. There is no issue more pressing than getting election fraud stopped.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/crisis/05/008_ep.html
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:49 AM
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:15 AM
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13. To further explain and clarify
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 06:20 AM by NoBushSpokenHere
I posted the following as a response to this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4777145 Decided to add the response here as well in hopes you will understand, "Why the defeatist attitude"

I have been working as hard as possible to help expose the 2004 election fraud. I log into the DU 2004 Election Results and Discussion quite often, as there is a certain solace in the discussions with others who are doing all they can do to uncover the fraud and expose the Bush administration for what they are.

I also take a look at the DU Breaking News and check in on the Greatest Page, and in General Discussion. I do this in hopes that I will read news that the Congress has begun investigations on DSM, the Katrina Genocide, etc. I also have been expecting indictments concerning the 2004 election.

Recently, I have noticed the DU 2004 Election Results and Discussion slowing in activity. Yesterday, looking at the Breaking News page, I learn there will be no congressional hearing on NO, and Congress didn't do a damn thing about the DSM. I also see posts such as this one: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... Notice it only has 1 recommendation for the Greatest Page. And this one, with only 3 recommendations: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... I could name countless more. There has been a large amount of evidence of 2004 fraud uncovered thanks to a handful of DUers who care.

We need a Sinclair type action to expose the fraud and to expose the vote eating machines. Without threat of losing a job, a bad employee will continue to be bad. The prez and congress have little fear of losing the job. They control the corporations that control the votes. They control the Congress that controls impeachments.

Instead of a Sinclair type action to draw the media in to helping us save this country, I log into General Discussion and see good Dems kicking or recommending posts which while albeit humorous, do little to help our plight. If we cannot rally DU into stopping the corporations that control our elections, then how can we expect to stop them from doing so?

And, yes, I get discouraged from time to time. I do feel at times we have no hope. But, is it any wonder I have those thoughts?

No, I did not post the "Our Voices have been Silenced" thread to bring DUers down. I posted it because I do have this fear that unless we stop the machines from choosing our leaders, we have no hope. I guess I was hoping that I could stir some passion within the ranks to help stop what is being set into place. The handful of people who are working to reveal the fraud and bring the elections back into the hands of the people, do get weary.

To fire employees we must have an election system that holds them accountable. Are you willing to stand up and demand it?
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:40 AM
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14. Try less finality than "silenced" next time unless finality is your goal.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:51 PM
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15. Starting tomorrow we will kick their ass...
I just RECOMMENDED this post. It's the truth but, then again, it's the opportunity. Face reality, which you do such an excellent job of summarizing; then let 'er rip. Go to www.bradblog.com and look at today's article on Diebold; go to the Bush poll on AOL (not the speech, the how's he doing on these issues poll); look at the outrage among everyday people.

They can pull their stunt one more time, and they will try. They won't get away with it. There are too many eyes.

When he hits 35-36% consistently, we'll see the election fraud issue emerge along with Plame indictments in the hopper.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:01 PM
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16. Oh, I so hope you are right, autorank - thanks n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:32 AM
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22. It's going to happen. We just can't give up.
We need to be like "The Cinderrella Man" and just keep fighting, getting up every time we're knocked down, with the full knowledge that we'll prevail. There's no other option (well there is, but i don't want to start going to churches and joining parties that I don't believe in).

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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:57 PM
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23. LOL
Can you imagine the bunch of us pretending to be republican? Just the thought of that made me burst into much needed laughter!

Imagining........me at a Repub event......OMG .......hilarious!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:21 PM
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18. I will dream as I dream today. peace
Tomorow never really comes, and reality is in my heart.
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:27 PM
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19. Silently screaming
I admit- I'm so very tired. I know I can't quit now, but I sign petitions, call congress, attend rallies and vigils, talk til I'm blue and admit to feeling overwhelmed. Overwhelmed by the apathy, greed, laziness, etc I keep seeing around me. I'm showing up in DC next week with my family of six and trying to believe it can make a difference. But I also feel that unless we get a million people there I need to start working on my exit strategy from my home country.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:35 PM
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20. Do you allow someone else to define how much power you posess?
Here's a letter I wrote in response to bush* tonight:

Congressman/woman/Senator______________


The sorrow & outrage with which I wrote to last week regarding what was done to the people of New Orleans has not subsided. I doubt that it ever will. I am a witness to what was done to the people of New Orleans. I sat in the same front room tonight and watched the speech by Mr. Bush as I sat in two weeks ago and watched dying people ask why their government would not give them a lifesaving drink of water.

How refreshing it was to listen to Mr. Bush acknowledge the mere existence of the ever growing numbers of the poor in our nation. How refreshing it was for a representative of the republican party to speak about the tragedy of Katrina & post-Katrina and not blame the victims. Lord knows that all of the republican voices and the voices of the Bush administration that have blamed the victims of Katrina for their own misery, deaths & despair are burned into my memory. I can only hope that your memory serves you as well.

My hope is that, in addition to short term & long term assistance for the people affected by Katrina, particularly those in New Orleans, and the redress of the legislative policies that hinder impoverished citizens, you will also keep your eye on what Mr. Bush had hidden deep within his speech. Mr. Bush spoke about drawing more power to the Executive Office & the military. I found this very chilling. Mr. Bush also used the horror of 911 to take from us many of our civil liberties in the name of keeping us safe. We are witness to the fact that we are less safe, and we now have fewer of our civil liberties.

This administration has a history of hitting us while we are down. I am in no mood to watch as they further destroy our nation while they pretend to be our saviors. I have seen this act before. Please, I am begging you, keep this administration on a short leash.

Please, demand these things:

* short & long term assistance for the victims of Katrina & the Bush administration.

*do not allow the wealthy to take New Orleans away from the average citizen.

*an independent investigation into why American citizens were dying in an American city while being treated as though they were “enemy combatants”

*no more no-bid contracts. Period. Halliburton out.

*do not allow the bush administration to further empower the Executive Office. The military should not be given broad rights to act on American soil.




Respectfully,


XXXXXXXXXX



Be silenced or speak up. It is your choice.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:54 PM
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21. Excellent letter..........You should repost it with a challenge
to ask all DUers to do the same!
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