Anyone See What CNN Just Did !

[stewert]

I was just watching CNN about 11:40 am cst, they had the situation room with Wolf Blitzer on the air.

He had 3 CNN stooges on the show to talk about the Bush speech tonight and his job approval numbers.

They put 4 polls on the screen, each poll had Bush at 40% approval or higher. Gallup, WSJ/NBC, etc. Then at the bottom they have an average of the 4 polls of 42% approval.

But they only used the 4 polls that had Bush at 40% or higher, they did not report the 3 polls who have Bush at 38%, 38%, and 39%, they are Newsweek, CBS, and the American research Group (ARG). And they did not factor them into the average of 42% they got using the 4 polls that have him above 40% approval.

This is total ass kissing for Bush, and a clear sign they are now trying to make Bush look better. Otherwise they would have included all the polls in their report and gave us a real average approval rating. They did exactly what O'Reilly does, they cherry picked the 4 best polls for Bush, then they came up with a bogus average based on the 4 polls that had the highest ratings for Bush. While ignoring the other 3 polls that have Bush below 40% approval.

This is not journalism, it's crap.

This is something I would expect from FOX, it just shows how much CNN is trying to be like FOX, and how they are now trying to make Bush look better by cherry picking the polls they report.

There is no way this could have been an accident, they only used the 4 polls that have the highest approval ratings for Bush. While totally ignoring the other 3 polls that have lower ratings for Bush. Someone at CNN made a decision to only use the 4 polls that had the highest ratings for Bush.

So much for that liberal media...........

[merwin]

1. To be fair, those polls are the most recent.

[tridim]

5. And 42% isn't anything to be proud of

Even though the number doesn't represent reality.

[merwin]

23. Reality is 41.2%

See my above post.

[stewert]

7. Wrong.........

Being fair means reporting all the polls, the Newsweek poll is only 4 days old, and the CBS poll is 7 days old, how is that not recent ?

Face it, they cherry picked the 4 polls that had the highest ratings for Bush, now that is being fair.

You can defend them all you want, but I am being fair.

[merwin]

20. But I am not wrong :-)

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

The most recent are:
9/13 CBS/NYT (41%/53%)
9/12 NBC/WSJ (40%/55%)
9/11 ABC/WP (42%/57%)
9/11 Gallup/CNN/USA Today (46%/51%)
9/11 Pew (40%/52%)
9/9 Newsweek (38%/55%)


This week's polling began with 9/11.

If you look at every poll on the list, that's 41.2%
If you just look at this week's, it's 41.8%

Doesn't seem all that biased to me.

[insane_cratic_gal]

35. so essentially Cnn is playing to their 46%

I had always wondered what margin they were playing to. Now I see it.

[merwin]

46. The original poster said that they said 42% average

[insane_cratic_gal]

49. going by your info =)

9/11 Gallup/CNN/USA Today (46%/51%)

[merwin]

50. Yes, that one poll is 46%, but they average down to 41% or 42%

[bigbrother05]

47. The truly fair thing would be

to report the real truth. 58% or more disapprove or have no opinion. It is generally more accurate to cite the majority opinion to reflect the prevailing mood.

[Pirate Smile]

2. Contact them:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv/

[Sandpiper]

3. Oh Ted, why oh why...

Did you ever sell Turner Broadcasting to Time-Warner?

[DS1]

4. Wolf Blitzer is one of the smuggest assholes I've ever seen

I can't repeat what I'd like to see happen to him live on air, without it getting deleted.

[July]

11. Unfortunately, we Buffalonians have to claim both Blitzer & Russert.

I guess we get partial credit for Tom Toles, who isn't a native but made his fame working for the Buffalo News.

[vptpt]

16. One of my friends used to have an internship

at CNN. She called Blitzer "little fuckin Napoleon". She said the arrogance comes off him in waves like stink.

[Drewskie]

32. bought

Blitzer is probably bought and paid for by the wh. He is also a pussy.

[truedelphi]

41. When Wellstone's plane went down in Oct 2002

It was Blitzer who tried to take control over the local news reporter (a woman) by contradicting her statements by that the weather had NOT caused the crash.


From my Coastal Post news article May 2003
A TRANSCRIPT of a local Eveleth MN reporter and CNN News Analyst Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer has shown up on the Minnesota airfield, and is basically interrupting the young newswoman as she makes her initial report:
Reporter: There is no evidence that weather had anything to do with the crash.
Blizter: But the plane was flying into some sort of ice storm, was it not?
Reporter: There is no evidence that the weather had anything to do with the crash.
Observers say that CNN immediately cut away from the on-scene reporter, who of course was simply not heard from again. Other watchers noted a crawl along the bottom of the screen which they said ran only one time, "Weather not a factor in crash." However I would dispute that this item only ran once. Although I did not view CNN transcripts and news posting until November 1st or 2nd, what I found was that even at that late date, there were still some official notations that "weather was not a factor."

BTW Blitzer's "was it not?" is a hypnotic suggestion that certain types of interrogators are taught as past of the protocol.

Carol

[truedelphi]

42. When Wellstone's plane went down in Oct 2002

It was Blitzer who tried to take control over the local news reporter (a woman) by contradicting her statements by that the weather had NOT caused the crash.


From my Coastal Post news article May 2003
A TRANSCRIPT of a local Eveleth MN reporter and CNN News Analyst Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer has shown up on the Minnesota airfield, and is basically interrupting the young newswoman as she makes her initial report:
Reporter: There is no evidence that weather had anything to do with the crash.
Blizter: But the plane was flying into some sort of ice storm, was it not?
Reporter: There is no evidence that the weather had anything to do with the crash.
Observers say that CNN immediately cut away from the on-scene reporter, who of course was simply not heard from again. Other watchers noted a crawl along the bottom of the screen which they said ran only one time, "Weather not a factor in crash." However I would dispute that this item only ran once. Although I did not view CNN transcripts and news posting until November 1st or 2nd, what I found was that even at that late date, there were still some official notations that "weather was not a factor."

BTW Blitzer's "was it not?" is a hypnotic suggestion that certain types of interrogators are taught as past of the protocol.

Carol

[CrispyQ]

33. And rude! He is so rude to his guests.

He frequently interrupts them to go with another story. Sometimes he never gets back to them! I would be pissed if I made time to be on his show & he cut me off & never got back to me.

I think his problem is he can't multitask. As soon as he sees something new on his screen he goes to it, the current guest be damned. I really don't like him, I think he is unprofessional & he is out of his league in with this multi-screen format. Anderson Cooper would be much better.

[FrenchieCat]

38. Just call him what I do.....

Wolf Ticket Blitzer

[craigolemiss]

6. Actually---they used the polls

that they had either paid for or subscribed to---Sorry that you feel that it is some kind of conspiracy here, but its really not. They didn't want to pay to be able to use the other polls --fairly simple.

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[Sunkiss BlueStar]

12. LOL

probably so stewert. but * will have his defense even if he wacks their first born on an altar.

the chimp is right at the 39% 40% range when all polls are included. Next theyll have two polls at 45 and 41 a piece and average them only. so watch out for 45 to 50% approval ratings.

[merwin]

21. Actually, when all polls are included

he's at 41.2%

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

The most recent are:
9/13 CBS/NYT (41%/53%)
9/12 NBC/WSJ (40%/55%)
9/11 ABC/WP (42%/57%)
9/11 Gallup/CNN/USA Today (46%/51%)
9/11 Pew (40%/52%)
9/9 Newsweek (38%/55%)

[stewert]

24. You Missed One.......

You forgot the ARG poll that has Bush at 39% approval.

[merwin]

26. ARG's website says the last poll was 8/22 and it was 36%

That's almost a month old though.

Even with that included (which it shouldn't be) it's 40.4%

[stewert]

29. My Mistake.......

I was thinking of the wrong poll, I meant the AP/Ipsos poll from 9-8-05 that has Bush at 39 percent.

You are correct, the ARG poll was taken on 8-22-05 and it has Bush at 36% among all Americans, and it is still a valid poll, who said a poll that is 3 weeks old is no good any more ?

ARG only does polls once a month, so their poll is valid until they do another one in my book. Their poll had Bush at 42% approval for July, he dropped to 36% for August.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

[Sunkiss BlueStar]

25. Thanks merwin

I did mean 39 to 41% range. my Accidentee

[stewert]

43. Not..........

CNN used polls that they did not pay for in their listing, and they do not have to pay anyone to report on polls. The only poll they pay for is the CNN/USA Today Gallup poll.

So get your facts right.............

[mod mom]

8. I think it has to do with the reporter. I saw a segment of Aaron Brown

other day in which CNN polls (I can't recall whose affliated w CNN for that poll) was in the 40's but then Aaron Brown showed other polls which had * in the 30's.

Correct me if I'm wrong but here are some I trust vs others LS of S (lying sacks of...)

Truthful : Keith Olbermann, Anderson Cooper, Aaron Brown
Not: Leslie (wolfie), Tweety, Lou dobbs

[Guaranteed]

10. It's fucking Wolf Blitzer. He's a goddamned whore.

Never expect less.

[Nothing Without Hope]

13. Did you see the CNN piece blaming the approval of Michael Brown on the

DEMOCRATS??

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2091105
thread title: CNN VIDEO - "Dems to Blame for Brown Hire?" Lieberman was in charge

[Imagevision]

14. CNN is FOX news...with just just a wee bit more of sophistication

[lpbk2713]

15. A side note regarding CNN .....

Ted Turner is scheduled to appear on Letterman tonight. It might be interesting to hear his observations. Too bad, however, that the Letterman show tapes before Smirky's Dog n Pony Show.

[burythehatchet]

17. I will say again what I have said adnauseum

CNN is FAR more dangerous than Fox ever was. Is there anything journalistic about leslie blitzer?

[aintitfunny]

18. Do not give them your patronage

by watching them or supporting their advertisers. If they shill for the Bush Administration, turn them off and let them know you are doing so. Get your news elswhere. If they lie and distort and we still watch them, there is no reason for them to right the wrongs.

[lpbk2713]

19. How can we hold them accountable if we have no idea

what they are saying? I listen to Limbaugh now and then just to see what the latest mantra is. But frankly, I can only handle a few minutes at a time. Usually I find his absurdity humorous.

[aintitfunny]

27. How are you holding him accountable now?

I used to listen to Hannity for the same reason, and then decided that is what they want. We are add to their numbers and increase their ability to stay on the air and attract advertisers. The only way to hold them accountable is to turn them off, turn elsewhere. Besides you know what they are going to say. On CNN for example, watch Anderson Cooper and don't watch Blitzer. On MSNBC watch Keith Olberman, but not Tweety. Just my opinion, for what it is worth.

[stewert]

30. Like This............

I plan to put all this information together and put it on my websites and publish it for everyone to see. I will get the transcript tomorrow and quote them, then show the polls they did not report on.

That is how I plan to hold him accountable, I dont know what anyone else will do. And you do not get counted in their ratings unless you have a nielson box on your tv.

Some people in this thread dont seem to get the point, the point is they cherry picked 4 polls with the highest approval ratings to spin it for Bush, any other BS about it just that, BS.

That is the no spin truth, no conspiracy BS, just facts. They ignored at least 3 other polls (4 including the ARG poll) that all have Bush below 40%, if you think that was an accident I have some land to sell you real cheap.

That is the point of this thread, nothing more, nothing less.

[aintitfunny]

34. Well thank you for pointing out the point

of the thread. A point I had not realized I missed, until you so kindly repointed at the point. God forbid someone should have discourse that branches slightly away from your point. Get the point?

I also must apologize for assuming your first assumption was correct and thereby not repeating it so as to further make your point.

At this point I am not interested in any property, but thanks again.

[ComerPerro]

22. Even through rose colored glasses

Bush still looks like shit,

[Cleita]

28. Trying to make Bush look good? They've been doing this

since the day Bush took office in January of 2001, with Judy WoofWoof gushing about the "very popular new president".

Something about putting lipstick on a pig comes to mind. (My apologies to Ms. Piggy.)

[sandnsea]

31. It changed when they said "blame game"

I wish I somebody would tell the truth about how Bush gets them to do this.

[Guaranteed]

37. If 42% approval is the best they can spin for him, he's in SERIOUS

trouble.

42% is pretty bad.

[Tom Joad]

36. This is a recommended post??

Stewert: Calm down, and please take some deep breaths.

Some of us notice that the difference between 38% and 40% is very small.

Why is something so trivial recommended??

of course, the question is, why am i bothering to write a response?!?

[sandnsea]

39. Media manipulation is NOT TRIVIAL

That's how they start pushing those numbers back up, by selectively reporting the polls and slowly turning the herd. It happened all last year, maybe you missed it.

[stewert]

40. Huh ?

Tom,

I dont have a clue what you are talking about, all I did was point out how CNN cherry picked 4 polls to make Bush look better.

I know it is only a 1 to 2 percent difference if you use all the polls, that is not the point. The point is they ignored all the polls that have Bush below 40 percent.

If you dont like my information dont read my posting, and dont reply to it. I am just reporting on the conservative bias by Wolf Blitzer and CNN, the rest of what you said is meaningless to me because I dont know what you are talking about.

I did not recommend anything, I just posted what I saw on CNN.

[stewert]

44. The Transcript..........

The transcript is out:

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: The president will be addressing the nation tonight from New Orleans, his fourth trip to the region since Hurricane Katrina struck, 9:00 p.m. Eastern. We'll be here in THE SITUATION ROOM, reporting to you on that.

Let's get some analysis now, what we can expect. Three of our best reporters are joining us in THE SITUATION ROOM. Candy Crowley, John King, Dana Bash. Thanks to you for joining us.

<snip>

BLITZER: Look at these poll numbers, Candy. And we're going to put them on the screen over here so that you and our viewers can see them, as well. We call it the poll of polls.

The George W. Bush approval ratings:

CBS News/"New York Times" at 41 percent
NBC News/"Wall Street Journal at 40 percent
ABC News/"Washington Post" at 42 percent
CNN/"USA Today"/Gallup at 46 percent

Forty-two percent job approval ratings.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/15/sitroom.01.html

Polls they ignored in their so-called poll of polls.

9-10-05 Newsweek poll - Bush approval 38%

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9280375/site/newsweek/site/newsweek

9-8-05 CBS News poll - Bush approval 38%

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/08/opinion/polls/main824591.shtml

9-8-05 AP/Ipsos poll - Bush approval 39%

http://www.pollingreport.com/

July 2005 ARG poll - Bush approval 36%

Note: ARG only does their polls once a month, and their August poll has not come out yet. So their 8-22 poll is still valid until the August poll comes out.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

Notice a common factor in the polls they ignored, they all have Bush below 40 percent, every poll they used has Bush above 40 percent. It is clear as day that Wolf Blitzer is trying to make Bush look better by using the Bill O'Reilly cherry pick the polls trick.

[blossomstar]

45. Polls suck, remember election night 2004, they mysteriously changed?

I don't trust ANY of them as they are whatever * wants them to be. If the truth be known, they are probably around 20 percent approv. for * right now. From living in a RED as RED can get neighborhood and seeing people turn on him here, that has to be the result! Nobody on this earth can tell me any differently. TRUST what your OWN EYES tell you. I believe nothing from this media. I know I sound as if I'm in tin foil land, but hell, who would have believed all that has come to surface? Tin foil hat people? Wait and see.

[indepat]

48. Is this not what you would expect from MF Blitzer?

[LittleClarkie]

51. Eh, they did that too during the campaign

same shit, different day.

[joanne]

52. I dont think it is fair to compare CNN to Faux

Granted, they have Wolf, and Judy Woodruff... but Anderson Cooper, Aaron Brown and to some extent even Paula Zahn arent so bad.

Compare them to Hannazi, O'Lielly, Hume, etc. There isnt a "fair and balanced" bone in any of their bodies. :puke: