WP: 70% Of Teens Are Having Oral Sex

[stopbush]

Study Looks at Teen Sex Levels

By Laura Sessions Stepp
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 15, 2005; 10:54 AM

Slightly more than half of American teenagers, ages 15 to 19, have engaged in oral sex, with females and males reporting similar levels of experience, according to the most comprehensive national survey of sexual behaviors ever released by the federal government. The report today by the National Center for Health Statistics shows that the figure increases to about 70 percent of 18- and 19-year-olds.

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"This is a point of major social transition," James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, a reproductive health organization, said yesterday. "The data are now coming out and roiling the idea that boys are the hunters and young girls are the prey. It absolutely defies the stereotype."

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The newly released data, gathered in 2002, are sure to stir debate over abstinence-only sex education. Supporters of such programs say they have resulted in young people delaying intercourse, but opponents say they simply have led young people to substitute other risky behaviors, especially fellatio and cunnilingus. The new data tend to support the latter view, showing that nearly one in four virgin teens has engaged in oral sex.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/15/AR2005091500915.html

[FSogol]

1. Good for them. (nt)

[onenote]

2. Right now? Who's tending the register at McDonalds?

I hope they wash their hands...

onenote

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

36. lol, I don't remember the last time I saw a teen working McD's.

It's all minority adults, which should tell you something about our society.

[Lindacooks]

60. This is NOT good news. There is a high risk of STDs with oral sex

and kids that young don't have the emotional capacity to handle sex. We're going to see a generation of screwed up people if this trend continues.

[Throckmorton]

65. You mean like the last generation?

I hope you are being sarcastic.

[Throckmorton]

66. You mean like the last generation?

I hope you are being sarcastic.

[Lindacooks]

124. What are you talking about? Of course I'm not being sarcastic.

STDs are nothing to laugh about. And oral sex is still sex, which young teenagers are not equipped to handle.

[Warren DeMontague]

130. If a 19 year old is a "young teenager"

then what is an old teenager?

[Lindacooks]

137. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE OVER THE AGE OF CONSENT!!

Geez, why do you people have such a problem understanding this? I'm upset by 11, 12, 13, 14, and even 15 year olds thinking that oral sex is no big deal.

[Warren DeMontague]

141. Gotcha.

Personally, I lost my virginity at age 16, which I don't think is (or was) a terribly uncommon age for such things to happen.

As far as my own kids go, I would prefer they wait until they're 18, but I want them to have information and access to contraception and STD prevention just in case.

[shimmergal]

136. No, oral sex is NOT quite real sex.

And what do you mean by "young teens"? 18- and 19-year olds? Sounds like they're the ones who're doing most of it.

This is nothing new; it's only the talking about it so adults can "view with alarm" that's new.

[elehhhhna]

100. even Tom Cruise's fiancee has herpes on her face.

[Warren DeMontague]

108. Yes, this is the first generation of teens to ever have sex.

Clearly.

[Lindacooks]

125. Oh grow up. That isn't the point.

The point is that these kids think oral sex is a perfectly safe, perfectly acceptable alternative to vaginal sex. AND IT ISN'T. STDs happen to be a real threat with oral sex too.

[Warren DeMontague]

128. I refer you to the article: "Ages 15-19"

Are STDs an issue? Certainly. Which is why kids need REAL sex education, as opposed to this "just say no" abstinence crap, which, when it fails, (as it statistically, usually, does) tends to fail BIG and lead to kids using NO protection whatsoever.

But I refer you to your earlier post. If, as you say, "kids that young can't handle sex", and "we're going to see a generation of screwed up kids because of this", then it stands to reason that we are already seeing a LOT of generations of screwed up kids. (Oh, wait.. maybe "kids" isn't even really the right word, since, as another poster pointed out, 18 and 19 year olds are legally ADULTS.)

I don't know how old YOU are, but I "grew up" a long time ago TYVM, and BELIEVE ME people were having plenty of sex from ages 15-19 back in my day as well.

But if you really want to convince yourself that this is new, or some kind of crisis, be my guest.

[Lindacooks]

135. I don't know how old YOU are, but I grew up in the 60s and 70s.

And of course people were having sex, and plenty of it, from the teens onward. Don't insult me by thinking that I think this is new.

What's new is that oral sex is taken so casually by these teens and PRETEENS. THAT is what upsets me. And the fact that STDs are easily spread by oral sex.

But if you really want to convince yourself that 11 and 12 year old kids having oral sex is okay, and that transmission of more STDs is okay, be my guest.

[Warren DeMontague]

140. Did I say that?

Because, um, I don't think that I said anything even remotely resembling "11 and 12 year olds having oral sex is okay".

What I said was, the excerpt from the article refers to ages 15-19. The 70% figure has to do specifically with ages 18 and 19. Now, maybe you're one of those people who loves to conflate and confuse arguments by dragging "protecting the children" into debates about behaviors involving consenting adults, which 18 and 19 year olds clearly are, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't do that.

If I "insulted" you, I apologize- it was not intentional. But it was only through echoing back sentiments you yourself seemed to be raising. Read your posts. There's nothing in there about "11 and 12 year olds".

[SteppingRazor]

3. "This is a point of major social transition,"

Why, yes. Yes it is. :evilgrin:

Seriously, does this really shock anyone? Have y'all forgotten high school so quickly?

[aquart]

10. Really?

There were rumors, of course.

[rkc3]

13. Unfortunately I remember HS - I can't recall oral sex being a part of it.

[BR_Parkway]

33. I guess you and me and one other made up the 3 out of 10 who weren't

getting any.

[Yupster]

52. I'm with you Parkway

Where were these girls when I went to school?

[RetroLounge]

80. "Where were these girls when I went to school?"

From my experience, they were at the all-girl catholic high school.

:evilgrin:

RL

[Gnostic]

98. LOL

My experience was the more promiscuous girls in my school were from the wealthier Republocrat families.

Is'nt that odd?

[eissa]

99. The pastor's daughter

Jeans that looked like they were sprayed on, black leather jacket, Tammy Faye Baker make-up. Once accidentally walked in as she was being groped by fellow student. Didn't seem to bother her much. I ran out in a panic. I was waaaayyy naive in high school!!

[Gnostic]

104. Undoubtedly

"Didn't seem to bother her much."

I imagine she probably was hoping you'd j......umm nevermind

[Serial Mom]

122. Don't get too excited about this ...

Soon, and all too soon, your daughter will be of that age!

and then, from Stripes, "Reality set in" :scared:

[RetroLounge]

123. She will be locked in a convent by then

:D

RL

[HughBeaumont]

142. Not attracted to my (then) 140-lb ass, obviously.

Pisses me off - I look around at youths today and the skinniest emo pizza-cheeked nerds are walking around with stripper-quality girls. When I was in HS, if a girl was talking to me, it was usually to insult me. Can I get a :wtf: with a side of :banghead:

[Dorian Gray]

74. I'm there, too.

I didn't have sex until I was twenty. Right out of my teens, but still. :)

[Qibing Zero]

39. You got the unfortunately part right. nt

[rkc3]

59. Fortunately, things got a whole lot better in college - thank God for beer

[Warren DeMontague]

110. The Sex is probably one of the few things I would choose to remember from

those days.

That, some Dead shows, and maybe R.E.M.'s first two albums...

much of the rest of the mid-Eighties was a wash.

[Warren DeMontague]

4. Praise Jay-Zus!

Hmmm. Imagine what those numbers would look like if they stopped saying "Under God" in the pledge.

[maxsolomon]

5. i am jealous

better that than an unwanted pregnancy.

[TNDemo]

6. Thank you Republicans.

Since insisting an investigation into a president's private life be on TV 24/7 the whole world got educated about oral sex. I know teenagers are going to be sexually active and this is preferable to getting pregnant but I don't think it would be 70% of teenagers if every detail had not been blasted at us for a year or two. I know they were desperate to embarrass Clinton but should have considered some family values consequences.

[DaveJ]

81. Wha

Republicans "should have considered some family values consequences"??? Ya right. Since when do they consider the consequences of anything?

[Warren DeMontague]

114. Oh, come ON.

I agree that $87 Million of taxpayer money to blast information about a blow job all over the media was unwarranted... but, really. Do you honestly believe that these kids wouldn't know what "oral sex" was without the help of the Clenis?

Shit, I came of age during Reagan and the initial panic over AIDS... and we managed just FINE.

[Eurobabe]

7. And?? the point of this article is?

Uptight idiots. Hell, I was doing the same thing at that age!! Will it be banned until age 21 now by some fundie moron lawmaker?

[stickdog]

8. And people say Bush hasn't created any jobs! (nt)

[mitchum]

111. LMAO!!!!

well done :)

[CTD]

9. The Clenis will definitely get blamed for THIS

They'll say that Clinton classifying oral sex as "not having sexual relations with that woman" led to all of this. Just watch.

It's always the Clenis.

Forget that when you are a teen, you think about sex more or less every waking moment. (Okay, at least if you are a male teen - I can't speak for the other side.)

[zanne]

21. Have they all vowed to remain technical "virgins"?

I've heard that some fundie kids are engaging in oral and anal sex as a way of "saving" themselves for marriage. They figure they can do that and still technically be virgins.

[eissa]

31. That was my fundie high school

and I was in HS in the 80s -- way before Clinton -- and oral sex was the way to go in order to remain "pure" for your husband. In fact, our PE teacher was fired after he received one from a student who..umm..."specialized"?? in this practice.

[zanne]

37. ROFL!

That made my day! Thanks!

[TheCowsCameHome]

40. Jeez. Extra credit used to be wiping the blackboards or clapping erasers

[regnaD kciN]

67. Not just fundie HSs, either...

When I was that age, back in the early '70s, there was a definite practice of "everything but..." among classmates. The understanding was that "having sex" meant genital intercourse. Anything less than that was "fooling around," and certainly not "having sex." You could do anything short of genital penetration and still be considered a virgin.

This is what amused me so much about Monicagate -- the talking heads attacking Bill for "obviously" lying when he said he hadn't had sex with her. It made me wonder what sort of youth they lived through -- by the standards of my contemporaries, they clearly hadn't had sex, merely "fooled around." (Which is not saying that it was all right for a married man to fool around with another woman, but his semantic distinction would have been in keeping with the times in which I -- and probably Clinton himself -- grew up.)

[Yupster]

118. Not just the married part either

The other part that was wrong was that he needed to keep his hands off the help. That's a pretty good generic rule of business.

[lophopper]

72. Are you kidding??

Speaking as someone who had no intention of holding ANYTHING back, I can't imagine thinking that way...

[LostinVA]

78. They did that when I was in college 82-86

And they had the nerve to call girls who had "normal," adult relationships sluts. Because they weren't virgins....Jesus. People need to GET OVER that little piece of skin. I mean it when I say all females should be painlessly deflowered in a doctor's office, like royalty.

[stanwyck]

148. Friend's daughter is very proud

of her "virginal" status but has been very frank in speaking of routinely engaging in oral sex.

[ronnykmarshall]

11. Wow that sucks!

[GreenPartyVoter]

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[Jack from Charlotte]

64. It sucks that I was born too early.*

[formercia]

12. This fits the pattern in other parts of the World

In muslim countries, where virginity until marriage is considered a requirement for women, oral sex is an accepted though not publicized alternative. Accept it folks, sex is gonna happen. Any normal person needs an outlet, so whatever floats your boat.

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. Wow! That really blows me away.....................

[eissa]

26. LOL! n/t

[WildClarySage]

15. I don't believe it. I've worked with teens in rural OH and

that doesn't ring true. And even if it were true, whose freaking business is it except the teens, their partners and their parents?

[patrice]

16. Those abstinence pledges and rings translate to no vaginal sex,

Everything else is the coin of the realm. I taught highschool Psychology (i.e. "Sex, Drugs & Rock 'n Roll") for 10 yrs.

[eyesroll]

17. Ages 15 to 19? 18 and 19 year olds are adults.

Why is this something we should be alarmed about?

Take them out of the survey and the percentage goes way down.

[patrice]

19. Good Catch!!

[DemocracyInaction]

20. The other 30% were teens from Christian Fundie Homes and

were afraid to answer "yes".

[BiggJawn]

22. Not just the teens...

Teen-ish, yes, but I like it too.....

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. The "pro-lifers" must be pleased. Few abortions you know.

However, I doubt they are since the "pro-lifers" are really pro-preggers who view pregnancy as just punishment for naughty women who enjoy sex.

[Devil Dog Dem]

24. Man, where we these girls when I was a teenager?

Wouldn't you know it!

[ComerPerro]

25. 18 and 19 year olds are having oral sex.... And???

[Xithras]

27. This is probably a good thing.

From the article:

"Many teenagers have fully accepted the idea that postponing intercourse is a good thing to do, Brindis said. When they weigh the advantages and disadvantages of intercourse versus other forms of sex, they decide that they are far more at risk with intercourse, both because of pregnancy and the greater risk of disease."


While some STD's can be transmitted orally, a major shift away from penetrative to oral sex should do wonders to reduce the spread of the worst of them among teens. Plus, nobody ever got pregnant from a hummer.

On the other hand, my wife overheard my 11 year old daughter talking to one of her friends about oral sex recently. My wife listened in for a moment and was relieved to hear that the discussion was about one of the OTHER girls in her school who had done it, and they were debating whether or not it would be icky (the decision was a resouding yes, so I can breathe easily for the moment). When my wife talked to my daughter about it later though, we were kind of shocked when she told us that kids in her age group don't consider it to be sex at all. From the perspective of girls her age, it ranks right up there with kissing with your tongue.

The danger, of course, is that by making oral sex "not sex", you open the door for younger and younger children to experiment with it. What happens when a 9 year old hears her older sister talking about hummers, and describes it as "not really sex"? What happens when one of these girls has some pervert climb into bed with them and give them that "special kiss"? Mentally, will they even realize they're being raped?

Overall, I'm glad the trend is moving away from penetrative sex, but some of the implications here are a bit problematic.

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. Some good news here - less conservatives apt to be breeding.

[formercia]

88. Shhhh!, they might wise-up

unfortunately, once they get married, they make up for it by breeding like rabbits. Remember, no birth control or sex education.

[leeroysphitz]

28. As long as it isn't all at the same it should be ok. nt

[understandinglife]

29. And 30 % are lying .......

Peace.

[expatriot]

53. I probably would've said yes but would've been lying...

call me old fashion (I am only 28)

but i think there is something to be said for being a sexually frustrated pimply teenager.

[tjdee]

82. Maybe 29.9%, because I wasn't having

any kind of sex in high school.

I was a weirdo!
:cry:

[jaysunb]

95. Funny....

I always imagined you to be a " free spirit " :evilgrin:

[tjdee]

105. See, I know!

It is seriously a mystery. I also have never done any kind of drugs.

My god, I'm probably a Republican!
:cry:

[jaysunb]

106. I've thought that on occasion

but I still liked your spirit ! SISTA :evilgrin:

[I Have A Dream]

113. I was like you, tjdee. However, the difference between me (and...

probably you too) and the right is that I was only making those decisions for myself -- not others. That's what pro-choice means, of course. Not that we're going to choose to do something but rather that we each get to choose for ourselves. This is definitely NOT the way most people on the right think!

[GRLMGC]

93. No

I've never had any for of sex and I'm 19. Not because I haven't wanted to or anything.

[Zynx]

97. Same here and I'm the same age.

[newportdadde]

32. Don't worry after marriage that 70% flips the other way.

:evilgrin:

[Yupster]

54. You got that right Newport

from this married guy.

[rkc3]

62. What's the joke?

Why do women smile so brightly on their wedding day?

[TheCowsCameHome]

34. This is temporary. The practice stops after the wedding cake is cut.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

41. That's funny - I didn't get a wedding cake...

:cry:

[TheCowsCameHome]

43. It was an 'either-or" choice in some cases. Tough decision, eh?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

49. No, I just got cut off once we moved in together.

[TheCowsCameHome]

51. Look at the bright side. You saved the cost of a big cake.

[WePurrsevere]

44. Not if you're lucky... ;-) n/t

[TheCowsCameHome]

46. Ding. Ding. Ding. I think we have a winner.

[jillan]

35. As Clinton tried to tell everyone

It all depends what your definition of sex really is.

[Arkana]

38. This just in: Nobody cares except Rush Limbaugh.

[TheCowsCameHome]

42. Has he ever had any kind of sex other than kissing ass?

[Arkana]

47. I think that's probably why he cares.

"Hey, why ain't I gittin' none?"

[YOY]

45. The other 30%...have no mouths and/or genitals...

That was just too easy.

[WePurrsevere]

48. Class of '78 & "Submarine Races" were very popular.

From what my now adult DD's have told me it's a bit more balanced now so more girls are having "fun" as well. B-)

[wallwriter]

138. Class of '83 missed the submarine races and wonders what they are...

[wallwriter]

147. Class of '83 has thought about the obvious and cancels the question

[underpants]

50. "This news is encouraging but dammit WE NEED NAMES"

-NYC Mayor Jimmy Walker on a survey that said 2/3 of women will have sex on the first date.

[anarch]

55. well that really sucks! n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

56. Pre-teens are partaking in oral sex too. 11, 12 and 13 year olds.

I kid you not.:( I didn't read this article. Is the pre-teen info in it? It's like the new "in" thing to do. I have a 12 year old son and he HATES it when I talk to him about NOT having sex, of any kind, until he's emotionally mature enough to handle it. He said, "Mom, I'm ONLY 12 years old!" WHEW! That was the reaction I was hoping for. :) At any rate, times have changed since I was a kid. When I was 12, sex never entered my mind.....from what I can remember. ;)

[Yupster]

120. That's what middle school teachers are telling me

too.

They have to kick girls out of the boys bathrooms. They do regular sweeps apparently.

From the stories they tell, some girls today are much more servant like in their behavior than 40 years ago. Boys bathrooms and school buses seem to be places of choice.

[Guaranteed]

57. Butt sex, too.

Girls, I mean. Seriously. So they won't get pregnant.

Would the fundies lose it over that one, or what? They oughta do a poll.

[mainegreen]

58. ewwwwww n/t

[Zynx]

96. Problem is that I've heard from some people that it messes up the colon.

I don't know for a fact because I've never been anywhere near that sort of activity, but it seems that it could cause ripping and other problems, not to be too graphic.

[Ariana Celeste]

103. If you don't do it right.

There's a possibility of getting hurt.

[Nat-X]

101. Are you a homophobe?

You were very quick to specify "girls"

[Guaranteed]

131. See, the thing is that both men and women can have anal sex.

So, what I was doing there was clarifying that I was talking about women having anal sex with men, and that it is on the rise.

Otherwise, people might have thought that I was referring to "butt sex" between men. And, in this specific instance, I was not.

HOWEVER, I do believe that butt sex between men happens in high school, as well. I'm just not sure whether or not that practice is increasing.

So, thanks for wasting two minutes of my time with that idiotic question.

[Nat-X]

143. Who twisted your arm?

An obvious joke obviously lost on you.

[Poor Richard Lex]

61. did the article give any phone numbers? eom

[mcscajun]

63. Damn! I *knew* I was born too early...

...Way, Way too early.

:evilgrin:

[TimeChaser]

68. Why are 18 and 19 year olds in this survey?

18 and up, you're an adult. I'd rather they pay more attention to the younger kids, see how many partners they have, whether they use protection, etc...

[FSogol]

69. To get the results the "researchers" wanted. (nt)

[triguy46]

85. Maybe its the Margaret Meade factor...

haven't her findings been tossed because the subjects admitted they were just feeding her what they thought she wanted to hear?

[brentspeak]

70. 70% I find that hard to believe. Probably more like 7.0%

[bmbmd]

71. That's hard to swallow.

Maybe five per cent of the girls are blowing seventy per cent of the boys.

[darkism]

90. Best Response EVER.

Close the thread, you win. :thumbsup:

[triguy46]

73. is that the "big sucking sound" Ross Perot referred to? n/t

[Nikia]

75. The STD part concerns me

Oral sex was more common than intercourse at my rural Ohio high school and I graduated in 1996. It was considered less bad/serious than intercourse so many couples who were "going together" for a while were doing it. I don't know if 70% of seniors at my school had engaged in oral sex or not.
As far as I knew, most teens who had intercourse, used condomns during the act. No one who I knew ever used condomns for oral sex. While STD transmission may be less virualant for oral sex than intercourse, having oral sex be considered as no less serious than kissing would not be a good thing in terms of teens contracting STDS if most teens do not use protection for such acts.

[LostinVA]

77. It isn't less virulent

My sister the nurse sees ALOT of kids coming in with STDs in their throat and mouth, and it's damn hard to get rid of via antibiotics, much harder than genital STDs in most cases. Most of thees idiot kids don't even know you can get STDs via oral sex (see what abstinence only classes get you).

Also, per some articles I've read, most girls do this for guys because they "have to." They're expected to do this on dates. Crazy. In my day (I'm 40), oral sex was something you did that was MORE intimate than regular sex, something you did with your BF or GF....I have a big problem with this. Kids might not eb getting pregnant, but 12 and 13 year olds re doing this, and that's too young to be sexually active. They aren't emotionally mature yet.

For the record, I am soooo not a prude. Too x-rated for here, though....

[mongo]

150. It's hard enough to get schools to hand out condoms

Can you imagine the uproar if someone tried to hand out flavored comdons?

[Algorem]

76. America,you can lick this.

Let's not settle for just lip service.

[RagAss]

79. yeh...we said the same thing when asked back in the seventies.....

Did anybody say no ?????

[erinlough]

115. self delete, duplicate

[erinlough]

116. couldn't but,

in the 70's we were in the era of free love and happenings.

After reading this post I feel really sorry that the post aids generation seems to have so few experiences. I teach this age level, and no this post does not seem out of line but would have a few years ago when we were teaching aids education.

By the way, my first experience with this was the preacher's son, and he convinced me with the same reasoning...it wasn't sex. You know I never said thanks, but wow!!!!

[SpiralHawk]

83. The Pluto in Scorpio generation

Sex is about to undergo FURTHER metamorphosis.

that is, if you "believe" in evolution.

[RallyInDC]

84. wow great work department of homeland security!!! worry about sex....

....instead of saving thousands of lives.

thank you michael chertoff I guess its time to police everyone's private life and forget about saving lives instead!

[Xenotime]

86. Many states allow 14-year-olds to marry ...

with the consent of their parents. I would like to know how many in that study were married. For the rest, kids are going to be kids and you can't stop them.

[maveric]

87. From someone who's not...I dont even want to hear it!

I'll let it rest right there.
Little shits!

[Ignacio Upton]

89. Ironic

but not suprising. I've met people who pull this same shit. "Oh I'm waiting, I'm a conservative Christian girl....and I'll blow you too." Why not just admit that you want to have sex, which isn't a bad thing as long as you stop fearing the Conservative Christian wackos.

[darkism]

91. As a 21 year-old "technical" virgin...

...part of me wants to say "good for these kids" because any way you slice it, there are still fewer complications from oral than from intercourse. Plus, if everyone is a virgin anyway, there can't be that many STDs floating around.

The sexually-frustrated part of me, however, just wants to say FUCKIN' PUT OUT ALREADY.

:evilgrin:

[Name removed]

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[smbolisnch]

94. For some little kids?

Maybe you want to edit that. :eyes:

[Nat-X]

102. Can we go back in time and switch Jimmy Carter

for Bill Clinton. Then maybe I wouldn't have been a 20 year old virgin <G>

[DelawareValleyDem]

107. Oh, to be young again! nt

[Imagevision]

109. Well, practice makes perfect...

[BringEmOn]

112. They deserve a good tongue lashing!!!

[alcibiades_mystery]

117. And that's been constant for 4000 years

:rofl:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

121. Prolly 10-20,000 years.

Or more.

[insanity]

119. I like these odds

As a 19 year old who thoroughly enjoys oral sex (both sides), all I can say is hot damn!

[Deja Q]

126. And yet the AUgust 2005 readers digest said kids were being more moral.

Of course, the article immediately following that one was the rise of violence caused by video games...

:shrug:

Oh well!

[Pathwalker]

127. They should get married, then it will end.

:evilgrin:

[dhinojosa]

129. That blows

:rofl:

[yurbud]

132. I should have been born sooner

[Chovexani]

133. What the hell?

Teenagers are having sex?! Stop the presses!

[Craig3410]

134. WHAT?

70%????

Damn; sucks being part of the other 30%. ;)

[madrchsod]

139. ahhh....what is the margin of error?

what about the "wish factor"? what about the "ya i`ll i`m in favor of oral sex"... when i was a teenager i`d certinly mark yes! and if we would have had the same survey back in my day it wouldn`t be to far from this one....i hate to tell the kids but their moms and dads probaly did the same thing...

[kath]

144. Question - is it mostly the boys who are receiving this, or are the girls

getting some oral sex too??

(I'm highly suspicious that the first one is the case, but it would ssem only fair that the girls should receive as well as give...)

[Bigmack]

146. About even...

... or so I heard on an interview on PBS. The old stats were more heavily weighted toward boys getting and girls giving, but apparently young women have come a long way.

The interview indicated that the kids probably weren't exaggerating, since their answers were consistent, and the kids answer taped questions, not face-to-face with an interviewer.

I taught High School from 1970 to 1998, and I noticed the change to oral sex in the late 1980's. They said it had been common in Junior High. (Kids talk, believe me. If you think your kid doesn't blab about his personal life - and his family's - you're wrong.)

We told them that oral doesn't make you safe from AIDS or STD's because of tiny lesions in just about everybody's mouth, but they felt it was safer than intercourse, and no pregnancy.

The thing I found interesting is that they felt that oral sex wasn't as "intimate" as intercourse. That's kinda strange to me, and I told them so.

The Freepoids are saying Clinton started all this oral sex stuff. Shows just how backward those people are. They probably think "clitoris" is an allergy medication.

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149. everyone knows "clitoris" is a mouthwash.

Gargle gargle :)

[mongo]

152. Back in the mid to late 70's

We were all having intercourse, and the boys were going down on the girls, but most girls didn't return the favor - it was "gross"

It was our manly duty to bring our ladies to climax.

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145. see what the Bush's brought with them?

The Religious right brings oral sex with their rule. Shame Shame.

[Boomer]

151. Can you be gay if you don't have "real" sex?

If oral sex isn't "really" sex then there are a HELL of lot of gay men and lesbians who are still virgins.

In fact, this almost negates the very concept of gay sex. If it doesn't count for them, why should it count for us?