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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:03 PM
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CNN says tonight Bush must get back his "bull-horn moment."
CNN keeps saying tonight Bush will be trying for that "bull-horn moment" as if that was the moment that launched him on his leadership path (you should pardon the expression:puke:). They act like that's all he has to do again to win back the people...In my opinion, all that was, was a "bull-horn moment".....From then on he used every photo-op to say something macho, which was supposed to indicate that he was really taking charge and protecting America from all those "terrists"....No where was he put on the spot to make decisions, so he was able to bluff his way through...With Katrina he had to be on top of things and knowledgable about what needed doing....Ergo he was a complete flop....He was revealed for the empty suit he really is....And then to not go directly back to Washington when the hurricane hit...well, that just showed his complete cluelessness.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:04 PM
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1. His moment has come and gone. Too late, IMO.
Peace.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:44 PM
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40. Exactly, Fooj...
You took the words right out of my mouth. There's nothing ** can do at this late date to undo the images of him eating cake, playing guitar, and gazing detached out of the window of Air Force One. He's toast. I just wish he had the courtesy and grace to step aside, come clean, and let President Gore or President Kerry take over.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:05 PM
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2. taht would have been two weeks ago
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:05 PM
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3. I don't know about that, but he'll certainly have another " bull" moment.
I don't think those hastily organized emergency PR speeches are working anymore.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:06 PM
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4. We need a President, not a cheerleader.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:09 PM
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10. Probably cheerleading was the best time of his life....
His connections got him into the best schools & gave him companies to destroy.

But he probably earned the cheerleading spot on his own. It's been all downhill since then.



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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:14 PM
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20. That may be the only thing he's good at. eom
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:06 PM
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5. bullshit moment more like
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 01:07 PM by Moochy
they look at the public as a bunch of mindless zombies who's opinions can be tweaked by their wordsmithing and unsubtle spin.

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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:08 PM
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8. Is the Democratic Party giving a rebuttal tonight? If so, by whom? eom
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:07 PM
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6. CNN must have forgotten
That his bullhorn moment was next to a retired fireman from Long Island. Even that was a damn stunt. New Yorkers know though.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:29 PM
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35. They're trying to drum up interest in this speech.
It's their job to make you want to watch.

More viewers = more ad dollars.

It's the BOTTOM LINE. No more, no less.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:07 PM
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7. Actually, he's hoping to get back his bullshit moment.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:08 PM
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9. Yeah but trying to get back "bull horn moment" when everyone knows
you're desperately trying to get back your bullhorn moment does not work. Just like visiting NOLA way after the fact is like buying your wife flowers after you've already cheated on her. His goose is cooked.
Further indications -- my friends's right wing Cubvan mom mutteringly curses every time she hears the words bush or halliburton....
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:09 PM
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11. Sorry, but after the "bullshit" moment, there can be no more "bull-horn"
moments. :)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:09 PM
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12. That's ALL he's been doing for five years now. Pretending he's some
bullhorn-carrying John Wayne character. His failure and falling numbers isn't because he's not projecting the right image, it's because people are finally seeing that he can't do a damn thing right, no matter what image someone creates for him.

The real purpose behind CNN's comment, though, is to set Bush up for a comeback. After the speech, no matter what they have him say, CNN will start pimping for him again, and assuring everyone that Bush nailed it and is again our fearless leader.

Whether people buy it this time or finally realize the media has been selling them a bill of goods is hard to say. Reagan had lower numbers, and they revived that stupid, hate-filled monster's image. They'll do the same thing for Son of Reagan if they can.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:10 PM
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13. How can he, when no one is allowed around him tonight?
Is he going to shed crocodile tears?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:10 PM
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14. Who on CNN says this? Blitzer?
What a stupid thing to say. It's not for CNN anchors to say what the people they cover "must" or "must not" do.

I have very little respect for the Bushists but they would be making very, very clear what utter incompetents they were if they thought tonight was all about getting a bull-horn moment. I can't believe even they are that stupid.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:13 PM
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17. It was the Malveaux woman.....I heard her say it a couple of times now...
Suzanne Malveaux who covers the White House...
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:25 PM
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29. she was the one who said
"Bush's approval is going UPUPUPUPUPUPUPUPUPUPUPUPUPUPPUPUPUP" when there was no poll that said this.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:25 PM
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30. Rather than see it as CNN trying to spin it per se
I sometimes have to give the benefit of the doubt to these reporters who cover the whitehouse, they all develop that inside-baseball mentality. They are talking with the advisors on background and absolutely steeped in the WH spin and cant help but pick up on the WH memes. Obviously the proper thing to do is to maintain some distance and talk to the president's critics and to not treat the presidency as some cult of the emperor. But the easier thing to do is to talk like those whom you cover, and quote them.

I see cnn grabbing on to the karl's merry go round. ie. CNN is just along for the ride, spinning as they must to maintain access. If they get off the ride they fear losing access, and or tarnishing their rep.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:26 PM
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31. What source, I wonder, told her that's what they "had" to do tonight.
I can't see someone in the White House trying to build up expedtations like that.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:10 PM
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15. Tweety was saying exactly the same thing.
Either they all share the same writer or it was a talking point.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:14 PM
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19. Tweety's always looking for something "Big"..he probably started it.
He must have father figure problems since he's always looking for manley men, men who have big feet to plant on the ground (his comment about Cheney coming to NO). Chris loves powerful men...he looks up to them.

And, he is a mouthpiece for GE. His home on Nantucket is near Jack Welch's. NBC has paid him for his low ratings...because he's a "suck up." :-(
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:11 PM
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16. Why do think that was impressive?
I put it in the same category as all the other bullshit moments of this administration. The plastic turkey moment, the mission accomplished moment, the fake food distribution moment etc.

The so-called 'bullhorn' moment simply reminded me that he let 9/11 happen on his watch, ignored 52 warnings of an attack, and as seems to be a pattern now with him, was on vacation while his country was in danger.

He had his 'bullhorn' moment ~ and I'd like to know why CNN is not airing 24/7, as they did the Dean Scream? All I'll ever remember from this disaster is Bush strumming the guitar and eating cake while NO drowned!! That was his moment. Why are they trying to change it?

Do they not realize that no PR campaign in the world can bring back all those dead people, or erase the memory of how long it took him to get his act together, or the gang of incompetent, political cronies he put in charge of US security?

These people make me sick! They had a few moments last week, as they watched the bodies of US citizens floating in water on the flooded streets of a US city, when they nearly became journalists again, and no doubt their ratings went up as people finally got some truth.

Time to tune them out again. To promote this dangerous man is tantamount to treason, imo.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:15 PM
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23. can't get those scenes out of my mind
people suffering and dying in the heat, no food, no water, no help, no hope. It breaks me every time.....no g.d. phony photo op is going to minimize that - not now, not ever. It's not just the reponse was inadequate - he very, very much did not care; HE DID NOT CARE.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:16 PM
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25. Perfectly said! n/t
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:17 PM
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26. A great post.
You said it better than I could.
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:14 PM
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18. Agreed
Bush doesn't even know how to PRETEND to be compassionate. His ratings were tanking before the hurricane, but this lack of response has hurt him even more. You have to admit, they did it to themselves.

Karl must have been VERY distracted before the hurricane. A TIMELY cheap photo-op response could have at LEAST been spun as action.....

They're even inept at being inept

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:14 PM
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21. more like a bull-shit moment
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:35 PM
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37. You got that right !
At the same time Bu$h was posing in NYC, the neocons were planning to attack IRAQ !!

They had no intention of catching Bin Laden. He's the best thing that ever happened to the Bu$h corporate cabal.



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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:13 PM
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38. You took the word*right* outta my mouth.
Not bull-horn...bull-shit.

Was then...is now.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:15 PM
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22. by saying that, they admit that it was just BS photo-op rhetoric
they know its a sham. They know that 9/11 and the War on Terror is his only claim to legitimacy.

And they know he needs to go through that again.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:15 PM
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24. The appearance of management is the management of appearances
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:20 PM
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27. He ran like a bunny rabbit
in the opposite direction of New Orleans. That's what he did on 9/11 as well. He ran away. For pete's sake, Clinton went to ground zero before Herr Bush did. Guliani (I'm no fan) was at least on the ground helping. I even hear that Rummy helped the emergency crews remove injured survivors from the Pentagon. Our dear leader - RUN AWAY!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:23 PM
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28. CNN staff meeting: Well nothing else has worked for our guy yet
let's run this up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:27 PM
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32. Then he'd better have bin Laden & al Zarqawi on the stage with him
In chains. And even that wouldn't work. He's so toast.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:27 PM
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33. Never underestimate the capriciousness of the American people..
Just saying.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:28 PM
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34. Well, Cindy Sheehan already proved he was a coward...
How's Nero gonna stand up to a hurricane if he can't even stand up to a grieving mom of an Operation Iraqi Freefall vet?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:32 PM
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36. His 'bull-horn moment on 9/14 made me sick!
So get to it Pinhead** Give us another insensitive and insincere moment, and yet another reason to hate your guts. :grr:
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freestyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:39 PM
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39. All he has are Bullshit moments.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:46 PM
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41. Oh so he's introducing Bin Laden's head on a platter tonight?
Oh wait...Osama's still mia. Oh and oh yeah-the dead in New Orleans and the lost are gone..no words from the tin eared dictator will change that.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:51 PM
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42. Well, nothing screams leadership like standing on a pile of corpses
And CNN is practically salivating at how they're going to bring Chimpy back yet again from a disaster that would have felled any other politician cursed with self-awareness and a conscience.

CNN: Always ready to pimp style over substance!
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