BRAD BLOG EXCLUSIVE! A DIEBOLD INSIDER SPEAKS!

[BradBlog]

EXCLUSIVE! A DIEBOLD INSIDER SPEAKS!
DIEB-THROAT : 'Diebold System One of Greatest Threats Democracy Has Ever Known'
Identifies U.S. Homeland Security 'Cyber Alert' Prior to '04 Election Warning Votes Can be 'Modified Remotely' via 'Undocumented Backdoor' in Central Tabulator Software!

In exclusive stunning admissions to The BRAD BLOG some 11 months after the 2004 Presidential Election, a "Diebold Insider" is now finally speaking out for the first time about the alarming security flaws within Diebold, Inc's electronic voting systems, software and machinery. The source is acknowledging that the company's "upper management" -- as well as "top government officials" -- were keenly aware of the "undocumented backdoor" in Diebold's main "GEM Central Tabulator" software well prior to the 2004 election.

A branch of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security Department issued a "Cyber Alert" about the security vulnerability prior to the election and, our source tells us, "Diebold's upper management was aware it...but did nothing to correct it."...

FULL EXCLUSIVE STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001838.htm



FULL EXCLUSIVE STORY:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001838.htm



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[mtnester]

1. Someone here beat even you to the punch already!

hee hee
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4782326&mesg_id=4782326

[ck4829]

2. I'm guilty of doing that

:evilgrin:

[Cleita]

3. Okay, that does it, we have to demand a hand counted ballot

in the next elections.

[shance]

12. A hand count implemented by citizens of each precinct.

"It is not who casts the vote that determines the winner, but those who COUNT the votes".

[kath]

15. Like in Canada - it works there.

[Mugsy]

115. "No workaround" for 29 of the 70 items.

I followed the links to the source report...

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/bulletins/SB04-252.html

...and did some counting:

29 of the 70 vulnerabilities listed have "No workaround".
Number of those 29 with a Risk Level of "High": 17.

[Extend a Hand]

4. Wahoo!

Finally!!!


Hopefully the first of many


:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause:

[Raster]

5. I wondered when this would raise it's ugly little head.

Memo to Brad: Stay out of small planes and you may want to get a bodyguard. These are NOT nice people. There's already the blood of THOUSANDS on their hands.

[Twist_U_Up]

6. Fuckin A !!!

Get this guy some protection PRONTO !!!

This is the leak we need. Lets not squander the chance to bury ALL these scumbags once and for all

[Imagevision]

139. KICK!

[Salviati]

7. snip:

"Our source expressed emphatically that the threat to both previous and future democratic elections in the United States are still at stake and feels that the problem will not be corrected until Congressional action forces the company to do so."

Screw forcing the company to do so, all Diebold machines should be immediately decertified, and the govt should sue them for providing faulty merchandice in order to reclaim their costs. Of course, this administration would never bit the hand that fed them in such a manner...

[babsbunny]

9. He is a true American Hero!!!

This will encourage more whistle blowers!!!!

[Touchdown]

44. Throw them into the Boston Harbor.

Symbolic? Yes. Effective? Definitely!

[Imagevision]

99. Explain why Kerry said Bin laden video is what did him in??

Kerry said after the election on msnbc interview that the release of the bin laden tape is what changed voters minds. How questionable is this coming from John Kerry!

Sort of like when Clinton came out after the election and told us not to be whinners and move on...?!?!?!

[Touchdown]

110. I don't know. I never saw the interview, What does that have...

...to do with what I said about Diebold machines and Boston Harbor? Unless you think John Kerry is so old that he participated in the Boston Tea Party 230 years ago.

[still_one]

8. absolutely NOTHING will happen

Unless the democrats in congress get off their asses and do something about it

[DURHAM D]

17. Come on - absolutely nothing will happen unless the people

get off their asses and elect a majority of Dems in the House and Senate.

It continues to puzzle me that so many don't understand how ineffective an individual elected official can be when his (their) party is not in power.

So many DU'ers want our officials to speak out all of the time about everything and no matter what the Dems do it is never enough but it won't be enough until we control at least the House and perhaps the Senate and the currently elected officials can't put a gun to everyone's head and make them go vote and vote the right way. It is up to every individual citizen to wakeup and everyone who is already aware needs to ring the bell for their neighbors and friends.

[marions ghost]

27. right, but first

we have to take care of this little 'counting' problem...

[Twist_U_Up]

38. ummm

how do we elect congress and senate members if THEY CONTROL THE MACHINES ???

We need to get off our asses and get these machines null and void

somehow.

If we don`t............

They will never lose another election ever again.

Its appearent that most Dems won`t attempt to touch this issue until its so friggin obvious they will have to speak up.

Maybe thats where we come in .

[StudentOfDarrow]

90. They can only alter close elections.

The Republicans aren't so stupid as to change the results of a blowout. That would be too suspicious. So, we can elect Congress members by picking candidates that will win by landslides.

[riqster]

148. That is comforting, but incorrect

Because, if there are no external validation methods, (like exit polls, which were taken offline, rigged, and put back out), how would you know if there was a blowout?

Listen up, gang, here's the deal:

The media has been the VRWC's stooge and reported the lies of the Bushistas. They won't tell anyone ANYTHING but what they are told to.

The elected officials are scared that this technology willl be used against them, so they won't say anything.

The election workers are useless, because vendors control the electoral process. And the major vendors are ALL controlled by right-wing republicans.

Finally, they are doing the same thing with voter registration-if Liberals can't even vote, there will be no blowout.

Look at Conyer's report and think of the above points.

THERE IS NO SAFE MARGIN!

[WiseButAngrySara]

57. We elected BOTH Gore and Kerry...SCOTUS and Diebold voted for B*!

n/t

[hippiegranny]

58. "elect?"

do you realize how absurd that word is? Especially in this thread?

[fudge stripe cookays]

94. Yeah..which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

Dems can't do anything until people elect them. They can't GET elected until something is done about the Diebold issue.

See the problem here? We need Dems with cojones to speak out no matter what.
FSC

[Imagevision]

100. Nothing will happen because MSM won't even verify these stories

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

89. Absolutely nothing will happen as long as the source remains anonymous.

[vkobaya]

144. The Democrats/Doormat party did win

That didn't change the results that the Repugnants stayed in power.

[GreenPartyVoter]

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[mod mom]

11. Brad, Have you sent this to Conyers office?

[OneGrassRoot]

14. Conyers is the man.....please send to him n/t

[jsamuel]

16. and my screen shots back up the theory that it was used in Ohio 2004

http://comp.uark.edu/~jsamuel/ohioElectionProblem.jpg

http://comp.uark.edu/~jsamuel/ohioElectionHamilton.jpg

[mod mom]

25. I have never has the opportunity to thank you for those screensavers.

THANK YOU! from someone who is auditing Lucas County! You ROCK!

[roseBudd]

29. I'm in Ohio, what counties did you count as using Diebold?

The majority were Triad and ES&S. Franklin was Shooptronic.

[mod mom]

30. Only two, but the big one was Lucas County (Toledo) which our friend

JSamuel kindly demonstrates had some numbers problems. Check out his link on Lucas and look at the Cobb votes and Kerry Votes-oops kenny boy made a little mistake when he was changing the numbers.

BTW: Hi Rosebud! I am planning to wear my Bush Cheated pin to DC!

[roseBudd]

52. People are so sick of Bush right now I think BushCheated04.com

could get a lot of converts. Suck them in with Comedy Central type mockery, then teach them a thing or two. I just recently added Alt Text to my images, duh, so image searchs will return results. Now if only google would reindex everyone could see my version of Wallie O'Dell

[FreedomAngel82]

74. Good idea!!

Good idea. Maybe if even more people pressure something will happen quicker!

[roseBudd]

112. I think we have to give them something quick funny and with pictures

if we want the masses to find out about election fraud

[mod mom]

34. Lucas so bad SOS forced to investigate + Noe was Chair of BOE!

This report used to be on OH SOS website but has disappeared, of course I have it saved for those of you interested. Here are highlights:

This report includes the fact that REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed UNSUPERVISED ACCESS to UNSECURED BALLOTS prior to the election, as well as this list:

*failure to maintain ballot security
*Inability to implement and maintain a trackable system for voter ballot reconciliation .
*failure to prepare and develop a plan for the processing of the voluminous amount of voter registration forms received.
*issuance and acceptance of incorrect absentee ballot forms.
*manipulation of the process involving the 3% recount.
*disjointed implementation of the Directive regarding the removal of Nader and Camejo from the ballot .
*failure to properly issue hospital ballots in accordance with statutory requirements.
*failure to maintain the security of poll books during the official canvass
*failure to examine campaign finance reports in a timely manner.
*failure to guard and protect public documents.
*failure to guard and protect public documents ....etc.


-One-half of the ballots printed and used in the 2004 general election in Lucas county were stored in an open space on the fhird floor of the county warehouse with no security measures in place.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation on Lucas County BOE page 4



-Live ballots were delivered to polling locations a week in advance of the election. Although the ballots were retrieved, one board employee who was assigned to the warehouse informed the SOS staff that he did not believe all the ballots were successfully retrieved.
SOURCE; SOS Investigation, page 5



-Lucas County BOE failed to record or retrieve ballot stub numbers of absentee voters’ ballots as required by statute OH Revised Code 3505.23. It was reported by an elector that her mother had received not one, but three absentee voter ballots. there was no way to determine if similar incidents occurred and if so how many.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, page 7




-October 4, 2004 was filing deadline for new voter registrations. At that point there were approximately 20,000 unprocessed voter registration applications with less than a month before the election. One mail tray containing 4,500-7,000 (estimates vary) unprocessed “Project Voter” registrations were discovered on or about October 18,2004.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 10

***Of interest here is information obtained from the SOS website entitled ElectionsVoter/results 2003 and 2004 which show the # of registered voters number change from ‘03-’04 was 11,947 in Lucas County: reg voters 2003 in Lucas=288,190 ; registered voter in 2004=300,137.



-In late September or early October an employee of the Ohio Republican Party contacted Sam Thurber (*involved with politician wife Maggie Thurber in Noe scandal.) wanting to inspect and have copies made of all recently returned voter registrations, Ohio Republican Party offered to furnish volunteers to assist with copying postcards. No one at the Lucas County BOE can confirm that anyone was assigned to supervise Republican volunteers. On their second day of copying, a BOE employee, Jennifer Bernath, Democratic Booth Official) saw republican party volunteers peeling off the yellow return stickers applied by the post office. (Violation of RC 149.43 (B) (I) , and agruably a violation of 149.351.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, pgs 18-19

*Among those whose donations have caught the attention of investigators are:
********
City Councilman Betty Shultz; former state representative Sally Perz, her husband, Joe, and her daughter, Allison; former county elections director Joe Kidd; county Auditor Larry Kaczala and his wife, Gina; County Commissioner Maggie Thurber and her husband, Sam; and two of Mr. Noe’s co-workers at Vintage Coins and Collectibles, partner Tim Lapointe and executive assistant Susan Metzger. Mr. Lapointe’s wife, Linda, also donated.

All of the above gave the campaign $2,000 except the Thurbers; each of them gave $1,950 to the campaign. The $23,900 in donations were made between Oct. 30 and Nov. 5, 2003.

Path of donations At issue is whether Mr. Noe gave people money in order for them to give to the Bush campaign, allowing Mr. Noe to exceed federal spending limits, law-enforcement sources said.
Source:
Toledo Blade - FBI Raids GOP Donor Noe's Condo
Friday, April 29, 2005
**********

-The Swanton 3 poll book turned up missing and has never been recovered.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 16


-The number of precincts in Lucas County for the November 2003 election was 530 precincts, at the time of the November 2, 2004 election there were 495 precincts.
SOURCE: SOS office

[RallyInDC]

42. didn't SOS's office actually use a diebold-system with re-write access?

someone know about this? bob fitrakis has loads of documents about the re-write access in blackwell's office.....was it diebold?

[deutsey]

26. This was my first thought.

If this is legit, Conyers needs to know about.

[BradBlog]

33. They are aware of it, yes...

[Junkdrawer]

101. Self Delete - Posted wrong spot.

[Drewskie]

13. Good work

This needs to spread like wild fire...

[Imagevision]

137. Do Kerry & Edwards even pay attention to these types of reports??

I seriously doubt that they care, at least it seems that way...!

[librechik]

18. can't find the original on the US CERT site

they either took it down, or... (maybe I'm just blind)

[Boredtodeath]

36. 3rd entry on this page

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/bulletins/SB04-252.html#diebold

[librechik]

49. thanks

won't open for me tho

still, glad it's actually there...

[Wilms]

19. Election Reform, Fraud, & Related News Forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

[Imagevision]

138. kick

[hunter]

20. I miss Andy...

:cry:

WELCOME TO 'HUNT THE WUMPUS'

THE WUMPUS LIVES IN A CAVE OF 20 ROOMS. EACH ROOM HAS 3
TUNNELS LEADING TO OTHER ROOMS. (LOOK AT A DODECAHEDRON TO SEE
HOW THIS WORKS-IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A DODECAHEDRON IS, ASK
SOMEONE)

HAZARDS:

BOTTOMLESS PITS - TWO ROOMS HAVE BOTTOMLESS PITS IN THEM
        IF YOU GO THERE, YOU FALL INTO THE PIT (& LOSE!)

SUPER BATS - TWO OTHER ROOMS HAVE SUPER BATS. IF YOU GO
        THERE, A BAT GRABS YOU AND TAKES YOU TO SOME OTHER ROOM
        AT RANDOM. (WHICH MAY BE TROUBLESOME)

WUMPUS: THE WUMPUS IS NOT BOTHERED BY HAZARDS (HE HAS
        SUCKER FEET AND IS TOO BIG FOR A BAT TO LIFT). USUALLY HE
        IS ASLEEP. TWO THINGS WAKE HIM UP: YOU SHOOTING AN ARROW
        OR YOU ENTERING HIS ROOM. IF THE WUMPUS WAKES HE MOVES
        (P=.75) ONE ROOM OR STAYS STILL (P=.25). AFTER THAT, IF
        HE IS WHERE YOU ARE, HE EATS YOU UP AND YOU LOSE!

YOU:

EACH TURN YOU MAY MOVE OR SHOOT A CROOKED ARROW

MOVING: YOU CAN MOVE ONE ROOM (THRU ONE TUNNEL)

ARROWS: YOU HAVE 5 ARROWS. YOU LOSE WHEN YOU RUN OUT EACH
        ARROW CAN GO FROM 1 TO 5 ROOMS. YOU AIM BY TELLING THE
        COMPUTER THE ROOM#S YOU WANT THE ARROW TO GO TO. IF THE
        ARROW CAN'T GO THAT WAY (IF NO TUNNEL) IT MOVES AT RANDOM
        TO THE NEXT ROOM. IF THE ARROW HITS THE WUMPUS, YOU WIN.
        IF THE ARROW HITS YOU, YOU LOSE.

WARNINGS: 

WHEN YOU ARE ONE ROOM AWAY FROM A WUMPUS OR A HAZARD THE
COMPUTER SAYS:

WUMPUS: 'I SMELL A WUMPUS'

BAT : 'BATS NEARBY'

PIT : 'I FEEL A DRAFT'

Good luck to you Brad!

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. Hallelujah! NOW we need someone to come forward who actually manipulated

the votes! PLEASE, come forward SOON?!

[RallyInDC]

22. this is it. this is the beginning of the end......for THEM....

this is hard-copy information we can give to every city official, and force them to de-certify these machine programs because they have violated HAVA.

its a legal issue now....that anyone can bring to court.

what a better time than to blast the whole area....and make sure they start removing these trojan horses! http://verifiedvoting.org/

now what we need, what we must have is someone coming forward who manipulated the totals....and soon....

if we get that, then we can force the democrats and others to shut congress down until the VERIFIED PAPER BILL IS PASSED.....and we will get it passed, and then boom........down goes the crooked election diebold and his cronies.

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. KICK! This is what we have been waiting for! A MUST READ!

:kick:

[Imagevision]

145. The entire state of Kentucky was Diebolded a few months back...

and we paid for it..!

[SittingBull]

24. Diebold refuses to offer

a bid for german voting- maschine request because of strong security guidelines.


I think that says all...

[marions ghost]

47. do you have a source for that info?

dates? any clues?

[SittingBull]

72. Yes

german newsmagazine Spiegel, so far only in german:

Auch die strikte deutsche Wahlgesetzgebung und ihre strengen Verordnungen für die Wahlgeräte beugen Fälschungen vor: "Jeder Handgriff, der vom Wähler gemacht werden soll, muss vorher dokumentiert werden", sagt Bronder. Das schreckte die Firma Diebold, Hersteller der umstrittenen Geräte aus den USA, ab. Auch ein indischer Konzern, der eine Maschine mit Symbolen statt Kandidatennamen in der Bundesrepublik etablieren wollte, zog sein Angebot zurück. Übrig blieb das Nedap-Gerät.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,374301,00.html

[marions ghost]

84. thank you

OK this article came out Sept 12 in Spiegel. So it looks as though Germany has only recently rejected the Diebold machines, which would most likely include the central tabulators.

I'm assuming this has not been reported in US news. Anybody out there seen it?

[Boredtodeath]

28. Georgia officials KNEW before the election

FIFTH AMENDMENT OT THE
CONTRACT FOR A STATEWIDE VOTING SYSTEM
CONTRACT NO. GTA000040
BETWEEN
THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF GEORGIA
AND
DIEBOLD ELECTION SYSTEMS, INC.

THIS FIFTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT FOR A STATEWIDE VOTING SYSTEM (this "Fifth Amendment") is made this 16th day of September, 2004, between the SECRETARY OF STATE of the State of Georgia (the "Secretary of State"), and DIEBOLD ELECTION SYSTEMS, INC., a corporation organized under the laws of the State of Delaware ("Contractor") (together, the "Parties").

WHEREAS, the Secretary of State and Contractor entered into a certain Contract for the purchase of a Statewide Voting System, Contract No. GTA000040, dated May 3, 2002, as amended, (the "Contract"), under which the Contract the Secretary of State purchased an initial deployment and the Secretary of State and local governments have made and are making subsequent purchases;

WHEREAS, the Secretary of State desires that Contractor incorporate into the Statewide Voting System at no additional charge a security adjustment developed by Contractor ("Security Adjustment") and Contractor is willing to do so, including the incorporation of such adjustment in intitial purchases and all subsequent purchases and all subsequent purchases by state and local governments for which Contractor has not provided the Security Adjustment prior to delivery;

<snip>

1. Contractor agress to apply for and diligently pursue Georgia certification for the Security Adjustment described in Attachment "A," hereby incorporated; provided that, if Georgia certification of the Security Adjustment is not obtained by 5:00 PM ET on December 2, 2004 other than due to Contractor's lack of diligence, either Party may, by notice delivered to the other Party no later than 5:00 pm ET on December 2, 2004,......

[lateo]

31. Anyone have a link to the DHS statement on this Diebold bug?

TIA!

[Boredtodeath]

35. Here

3rd entry in the list:

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/bulletins/SB04-252.html#diebold

[lateo]

37. That link doesn't go anywhere though.

I found a copy of the alert on another website.

http://www.onsitetechsnet.com/security/Article133.html

Check out this Google search string for tons of entries where people are talking about this "bug".

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=%22GEMS+Central+Tabulator%22+%2B++modification&btnG=Search

[RallyInDC]

39. it is sitting on this website. third box down from top of the page.

third boxed our column down from the top is the Diebold alert from DHS:

Diebold

GEMS Central Tabulator 1.17.7, 1.18
A vulnerability exists due to an undocumented backdoor account, which could a local or remote authenticated malicious user modify votes.
No workaround or patch available at time of publishing.

We are not aware of any exploits for this vulnerability.
GEMS Central Tabulator Vote Database Vote Modification

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/bulletins/SB04-252.html#diebold/

its still there....to this day.

[lateo]

41. I clicked on that link and nothing happened.

I bet it is because I am using Firefox.

[RallyInDC]

43. might have to change your browser settings....its a government website.

firefox probably blocks it out.

[hunter]

48. us-cert.gov is one of FEMA's cousins in homeland security

Its probably just as fucked as FEMA is.

Anyways, that link is a post from BlackBoxVoting.org and doesn't mean anything more than that.

[RallyInDC]

77. no, this was posted at bbv.org later after the fact..this is why its on

DHS-CERT site as a medium level security threat....its to prove that they know its there on all the machines.

[hunter]

116. us-cert.gov is more like a moderated message board than anything else...

You fill out the form, or send an email, and then us-cert.gov posts it.

You'd like to think Homeland Security has crack teams of computer specialists investigating these things, but mostly their job is to hand out money to friends of the Bush administration. The Katrina disaster should have made that entirely clear to everyone.

And it's true the us-cert.gov site does not work with many browser configurations. It's as if they are trying to protect their porn stash or something... But it's hard for me to believe they delibrately block internet access of selected people. It seems much more likely they are a bunch of burned out hacks who spend their days looking for viruses and spyware in porn sites -- Oooooh, ahhhhhh... look at those endlessly cascading pop-ups of paris hilton fucking penis enlargement ads... how'd they do that?????

Monkeys.

Yes, unquestionably, the Diebold voting machine code is crap, and full of holes. Named and unnamed sources inside and outside of Diebold have said that many times. But there's a much bigger problem here -- mainly that the entire concept of DRE voting machines is absurd. It is utterly astonishing that citizens of the United States would fall for it.

You want to store and count my vote as a little cloud of electrons??? You must be out of your fucking mind!

At this point most electronic voting machine insiders don't want to talk about their work. They know if they open their doors even the slightest, thousands of pigeons will fly in and crap on everything.

:grr:

You wanna change something? Don't be a pigeon. The politicians who brought you this mess don't have one fucking clue about computer code or election statistics. Their mindset is often "Hmmmm, Diebold makes automatic teller machines so they must know something about security..."

If you go talk to most government representatives about backdoors in Windows CE and various strange anomolies in the election results they will hear "waaa waaa waaaa tinfoil hat waaaa waaa....

But if enough people tell their representatives they simply don't trust computers and enough people demand paper ballots, then maybe we get somewhere.

You wanna change something? Your public officials should recognize your name and your face. They work for you, you are their boss.

Go get'm, tiger!

[ima_sinnic]

88. I am using Firefox and it opens just fine (nt)

[Generic Other]

32. Interesting to have so many suspicions confirmed

Good job Brad!

[faithnotgreed]

40. kick

[AuntiBush]

45. "Backdoor" Internet Intrusions Are Possible - More Then You'd Think

It's happened to me.

Believe it! Thanks Brad!

[FreedomAngel82]

75. This reminds me of something!

I am reminded of the PBS documentary "The Architect" and it told how Karl Rove had real-time polling data and also that photo of Karl on that laptop of his. If you haven't seen the film yet go to http://www.pbs.org For the election stuff just watch the first section. It's very telling.

[AuntiBush]

46. This is the Bases For Getting Out Country Back

Proof of our votes! Plain & real simple. If they have nothing to hide, Diebold and the likes need to step-down, now!

Can't Democrats push this super-strongly, now?

[marions ghost]

50. BRAD

:yourock:

[hiley]

51. Thank you Brad!

always kicking butt, aren't you?!?!
:patriot:

[BradBlog]

63. You're more than welcome...

Someone's got to ;-)

Thanks for all the kind words guys.

Need YOU all to help to continue making noise with this story as well! With Bush's speech tonight and other stories breaking around us, all that you can do to help kick and spread is much appreciated!

Brad

[hiley]

67. Support your work 100%

always outstanding!
:toast: spreading the news..

[Roxy66]

78. Brad...you are my hero.

Keep up the great work you are doing...

[Just Me]

53. Do we have a map of every country within each state using these machines?

That kind of map could be quite informative when compared with the votes. That kind of map in comparison to voter outcome would assist us in connecting vital dots.

[marions ghost]

54. excellent question

if you post it in the Elections forum, somebody might know where to find that.

[Just Me]

61. Frankly, I assumed that someone would have already put that info,...

,...together, particularly given the outstanding lawsuit in OH and persistent questions in FL. I just cannot imagine that, someone within the Democratic or Independent parties have not yet done that kind of comparison.

I was hoping someone here might know of links to such a comparative study and analysis. I do remember several statisticians and other analysts pointing out irregularities that were CLEARLY notable and significant.

[marions ghost]

66. yes I agree

What I'm saying is--if you start it as a separate topic, here and also in the Election Forum (which is under Politics and Issues Forums)-- you'd have a better chance of finding those links quickly from somebody.

Related question: How many states are using the Diebold GEMS tabulators even though they also use some form of paper ballots rather than DREs, or voting machines made by some other company. This vulnerability is associated with the GEMS tabulators.

[mod mom]

56. I have Ohio and we are pusuing each County BOE to educate. For

the others try Voters Unite.

[Just Me]

65. (((HUGE HUG))))

For all your dedication and work. :hug: You should be able to retrieve the voter info AND voting machinery from every county (clerk) in which you advocate for voter ed.

You are THE BEST!!! :hug: Another area which I found incredibly helpful is recruiting and training "informed" poll workers.

[bleever]

55. Big kick and recommend. Great stuff, Brad!

/snip/

"Our source expressed emphatically that the threat to both previous and future democratic elections in the United States are still at stake and feels that the problem will not be corrected until Congressional action forces the company to do so.

"In my opinion Diebold's election system is one of the greatest threats our democracy has ever known, and the only way this will be exposed is with a Congressional investigation with subpoenas of not just Diebold officials but Diebold technicians."

/snip/


:patriot:

[goclark]

149. DIEBOLD is America's KATRINA!

I am just reading your dynamite thread!

2006 is just months away! I am scared , what can we do?

[riqster]

151. Spread the word!

Far and wide-the MSM is ignoring the issue.

Be the media!

[WiseButAngrySara]

59. Send this to K.O.!! Thanks, kick and recommended!....n/t

[FourStarDemocrat]

60. Hope John Conyers will see this. n/t

[Cocoa]

62. kicked and nominated!

just kidding. :-)

[hunter]

68. Hi Cocoa!

:hi:

Somehow I feel like listening to ABBA...

Older and wiser, I am.

[Warren DeMontague]

64. Kicked & Nominated nt

[Nothing Without Hope]

69. Fitrakis said that there were THREE BACKDOORS INTO OHIO CENTRAL

TABULATOR, and one of them was in Blackwell's office!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378842
Thread title: DU - Fitrakis: Blackwell had direct access to central tabulator!
(Anyone hear an update on this story since then?) Not Diebold, but the same corrupt, easily hackable system. BTW, we should not be too quick to assume it was the Ohio backdoor in Blackwell's office that was used to MODIFY the votes, he and his "helpers" may have just been monitoring the manipulation. There were at least two other backdoors.

[FreedomAngel82]

76. So now there has to be known

where the other two were. Could Karl Rove have one???

[RallyInDC]

80. kkkarl rove knowing he committed treason....used the other one...

he said "hey tom noe, take this money and give it to the BOE....im going to go in the back room and alter some numbers..."

that was the blackwell rove plan in action.

[The Time is Now]

70. Time to connect some dots...remember...Warren County?

Cincinnati Enquirer Article on Warren County election night lockdown.

Anybody find it curious that the US-Cert warning is on a DHS website, and (let's go back) that on election night there was the bogus claim of a homeland security alert given as a justification for locking out observers from the Warren County vote count?

Brad has done absolutely magnificent work. This is just mindboggling.

[marions ghost]

71. Does anybody know--

how many states were using the Diebold GEMS tabulator in November 2004 ?

[Roxy66]

79. Finger on nose.....good thinking

[FreedomAngel82]

73. Oh wow

Why now??? Is this person crediable? What's the next step? Does Kerry and his lawyers know about this? I know they're still involved in the case.

[RallyInDC]

81. two or three election workers were just indicted....

and are under further prosecution plus kerry is scheduled for the election recount hearing, to commence on august 26th.

this diebold information will be key.....diebold tabulators were used in most states including ohio...they probably interfaced with triad..

[Moosepoop]

86. August 26??

Sure that's not September? ;-)

[TheStates]

142. I think this date being discussed is August 26, 2006.

I too have read the news report about Kerry's hearing date. The recount hearing and case will begin in 2006.

[enid602]

82. Mathematics PHD's working for Diebold in McKinney, TX .. . . .

. . . should sleep with a nightlite and avoid traveling in small planes.

"But after one of Diebold's head technicians who works out of their McKinney, Texas facility confirmed the gaping security hole in the software to our source, it was understood that these concerns were for real.

"Up until his confirmation, I had heard it through the grapevine, as rumors and such, but he confirmed it for me. The lead technician who worked on the software, who has a Phd in mathematics and so forth, was saying that 'this problem exists!'""

How many math PHD's does Diebold employ in McKinney.

[Verve]

87. Yeah, I cringed when I saw that. I hope this informant gave the PHD

a heads up that he was disclosing this info. They both need to stay safe!

[passy]

83. Foreign intentions.

What if a foreign government had managed to get access to the tabulating computers?
Shouldn't the Department of Homeland Security have acted on that possibility?
What if Cuban, Chinese or even Iranian computer engineers or hackers had changed election result to support Kerry instead of * ?
If nothing was done about it by the people who knew it only means that it was left to give an advantage to the eventual winner.
Because if Diebold had feared that the scenario I mention above could take place they would have plugged the hole.

[marions ghost]

85. KICK

for Andy

[Zan_of_Texas]

118. Yeah. Kick for Andy.

[paineinthearse]

91. ..."he was criticized and isolated."

I know that feeling!

[Darkhawk32]

92. Oh just go sit in the damn corner, you Freeper!!!!

:crazy: :silly: :pals:

[oc2002]

93. Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy or FACT...?

we will never know while the facist control the government, FBI, CIA, and the courts.

Welcome to the Facist States of America.

[tinrobot]

95. I'm such a cynic..

I'm totally convinced it was stolen. I was convinced in November, 2004. There is just too much evidence, too many statistical anomalies, plus a motive for the theft as well as the means to accomplish the theft.

But nothing has happened... every time we get an academic report or more evidence, it simply does not gain traction. This revelation is yet another step in the right direction, but it's only a small step.

The cynic in me says this will go absiolutely nowhere until some brave soul in the MSM grabs a hold of it and really runs with it. I hope this 'Dieb-Throat' person either reveals him/herself and/or provides company memos or other supporting documents so that can happen.

[janetle]

97. Feel the same way

When my scientist husband looked at some of the reports afterwards about the statistical anomalies, he too, thinks something happened that night. And he is a big skeptic about a lot of things.

But, until the person who actually did it or who saw it done speaks up.....absolutely nobody will believe that Bush/Rove actually went this far (to tamper with votes as the back up plan when it looked like Kerry was winning).

[oc2002]

98. Nothing will happen, the status quo is safe, and both parties are to blame

yep. your just fooling yourselves if you think the democratic or republican party will actualy investigate this.

our democracy is a sham, and there is nothing short of insurection that can fix it.

[riqster]

150. That's the cheap way out

Fact: ALL the major voting industry vendors are controlled by conservative Republicans.

THEY control the elections, not the parties.

[ClintonTyree]

121. Same here.....

I always knew there was no way in hell bush could have won that election fair and square, but when Kerry surrendered so quickly I became MORE cynical and disgusted, just giving up on the entire mess myself. This person HAS to go "on record" with this. Whatever he's getting paid by Diebold for his silence would be eclipsed by money from book, speech tour and interviews. He should fear for his life, but once exposed it would be rather difficult for them to silence him. He'd have the protection of millions of people.
Whoever you are, go on the record. Your finances and the lives of you and your loved ones will be guaranteed. You owe this to your country. Now, more than ever. PLEASE?

[blue state liberal]

140. Yes, when is it all going to happen?

The Downing Street Minutes reports, the forthcoming (we hope) indictments of the cabal by Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald, the Plame business, the revelation by Judy Miller of her assumed source to be Rove and on and on? When will some whistle-blowers come forward and reveal all the dirt that they have personal knowledge of to the brave heart journalists (if there are any)? Even Newsweek has been quite critical of dubya lately. Maybe the tide is(finally) beginning to turn.

[In Truth We Trust]

96. Paper ballots NOW!!! Hand counts NOW!!! Impeachment NOW!!! nt

[Independent_Liberal]

131. Hell yeah!

Paper ballots! Hand counts! Impeachment! Oh my!

:D

[DemonFighterLives]

102. Thanks Brad

I'll have to read up later.
:yourock:

[Imagevision]

103. Honest elections won't happen without ability to verify and the

repugs control electronic voting devices

[Junkdrawer]

104. Remember when one of the chief cries by the Diebold Defenders was...

"Are you saying there's a conspiracy by thousands of Diebold employees? Impossible!"

and my reply was always:

"I'm saying a "vulnerability" was designed in and defended by top management. This "vulnerability" could then be exploited by a small, select group of insiders."

I think Dieb-Throat just confirmed my charge.

[StayOutTheBushes]

105. There would have been a time for such a word.

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

[Child_Of_Isis]

106. Shrubbie must have pissed someone off last night.

Is everyone going to start squealing now? That "supposed" 200 billion to the poor folk must have done it.

[Pathwalker]

107. COMPUTERIZED VOTING BELONGS IN BOSTON HARBOR!

It's time for a new Tea Party!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

111. PERFECT place for evoting machines!

Bring on the Tea Party! I'm ready!

[BattyDem]

108. Somewhere out there ...

Andy is smiling!

Thanks Brad! :yourock:

[tex-wyo-dem]

109. Incredible job, Brad!

In addition to Diebold, other central tablators (Triad, ES&S, et al.) may suffer the same security problems if the core software is the same. In other industries (PC, mobile phones, etc.) core SW is often shared or sold to other companies to reduce R&D costs. If this was the case in the voting machine/tabulator industry, then it's very possible that every central tabulator out there has the same security problems.

[hunter]

136. It's crap code. Windows CE and Access database.

Specifying that software practically guaranteed there would be holes.

A lot of people spent a lot of time examining the code in great detail. Much information about the software in other electronic voting machines has been collected.

But when you boil it all down, a lot of energy was wasted chasing specific flaws in these systems.

The basic problem with any electronic voting machine is that your ballot exists as an electronic signal that is very easily tampered with. You can't watch the little clouds of electrons flowing through the machine. This is not a trivial problem to solve. Many solutions that have been proposed, encryption etc., make the problem worse.

The most secure way to collect and count votes is with voter verified paper ballots. Even primitive alternatives such as dropping colored marbles into a coffee can are more secure and preferable to direct reading electronic voting machines.

Chasing the various ghosts in the electronic voting machines is a fine hobby, and I've probably spent hundreds of hours at it, but the only way we'll get any political results is by turning up the heat on our representives.

My own election officials know very well that I will be tempted to vote with a hammer if direct reading electronic voting machines are ever brought to my polling place. I demand a paper ballot. The only electronic voting machines I want to see are machines that produce an actual paper ballot that can be counted by hand, or by an especially dumb and not easily manipulated tabulating system.

We really do need to approach this issue with a Boston Tea Party sort of attitude, understanding that votes collected on a direct reading electronic voting machine are not trustworthy.

[obreaslan]

113. Oh sure you can do it, but why would anyone do that? It would be dishonest

:sarcasm: Dripping with bloddy sarcasm at that.

[Mr Rabble]

114. What has ever been a more important story? nt

[marions ghost]

117. The Big Three

Overlapping Ownership of Voting Machine Companies.

"Voting machine companies are privately held and extremely secretive. ES&S, Diebold and Sequoia are the three largest voting machine companies in the U.S. market, and together they show a web of overlapping ownership, financing, staff, and equipment that makes it difficult to separate one from the other. Individuals and organizations with vested interests also own these companies."

(excerpt from report: "Electronic Voting, Critical Issues, Critical Risks" by Joan B. Krawitz

National Ballot Integrity Project Task Force
http://www.ballotintegrity.org
Email: [e-mail] • Phone: [phone]

----------------------------

It is difficult to separate the share of the market that each of these companies has--together they count approx. 80% of the votes in the US.

[Initech]

119. Remind me to go throw a brick at the Diebold offices...

There's one right next door to my work...

[ClintonTyree]

120. The 2004 election must be recalled.........

no ifs, ands or buts. This is exactly why the exit polls were so far off and scrubbed shortly after they were released.
Another election must be held as soon as practicable. George W. Bush is NOT our duly elected President. Once appointed by the Supreme Court, once "elected" in a rigged voting scam. HE IS NOT MY PRESIDENT, HE IS NOT OUR PRESIDENT, HE IS DIEBOLD'S PRESIDENT!
This is NOT a "oh well, what's done is done" situation. This is a situation of National Security. A dishonest, illegal Cabal has taken charge of our country by deceit and voter fraud. THIS MUST NOT STAND!

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[GlenP]

122. Bah! Big F---ing Deal!

I'm so sick of this useless crap.

How many times have we had not only the body and the bullet, but also the smoking gun and the guy holding it, ONLY for it to go ABSOLUTELY nowhere!!!

Where is Karl Rove after his treason?

Busy enjoying his pay raise of American tax payer's money, and working his "magic" not only in his normal everyday capacity, but also in getting rid of this current threat to him and the neo-con administration. And he likely will.

Where's the mainstream media pounding on this until he and his associates and co-conspirators, including Bush, are imprisoned? Nowhere!!!

Where has ANY of the extremely damning information about Bush and his cronies gone? Nowhere!!! Even with various progressive organizations comprising hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands of people pursuing it. Nowhere!!!

My response to THIS and anything like it has now become, "Meh".

Until this story has been picked up by the mainstream media, and they pound on it relentlessly, and congressional and independent hearings and investigations are initiated, and the general public has become keenly aware of the very real likelihood that the 2004 election was tampered with, I refuse to get excited or hopeful in anyway.

And even IF that all occurs, I won't get overly exited or hopeful, until impeachment proceedings have begun, and the White House is surrounded by a million+ people demanding Bush's head.

[EOTE]

123. I agree...

The question then becomes; How do we get this picked up by the MSM? I think this admin is probably the weakest it's ever been. If there was ever a time for the MSM to pick up the biggest story of their lives, it would be now. If only they had a bit of motivation.

[TheStates]

143. Mass forceful protest on the phones and radio?

That might get their attention....thousand something odd bloggers, or tens of thousands bogging down their phones.

[Land Shark]

124. kickin the news

[titoresque]

125. Yes, and this is why I keep asking...WHY are we pretending

that there will be 2006/2008 "Elections"
Why? I keep seeing all these threads and posts about "elections"
I don't get it! And no one who echo's these "let's vote for so and so" remarks will answer this question..........WHY are we pretending?

Someone? anyone?

[titoresque]

126. kick......anyone?

[AntiFascist]

127. You are preaching to the choir...

Unfortunately the vast majority of people probably think we are crazy leftists for bringing this up. I noticed George Carlin on Bill Maher's "Real Time" last week making noise about the corrupt election, but then he also seems to be in support of looting as a generally acceptable practice - talk about mixed signals!

Where is Keith Olbermann on this when we need him?

[McCamy Taylor]

128. Wow! Good job BradBlog. Next Grandtheftelctionohio strip here I come.

[McCamy Taylor]

132. Strip done. Man I was inspired. That was my fastest yet. Need to upload it

[marions ghost]

129. KICK

[Independent_Liberal]

130. Kick!

[Vox_Reason]

133. My fave link on this issue:

http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html

[Cogito_ergo_Democrat]

134. Insidious

I hope this blow things wide open. I hope investigations aren't limited to Diebolds electronic voting machines, but also their ballot counting machines and machines of others companies like ES&S, which is also headed by a Republican zealot.

The whole neocon crew must LOVE what these machines can do for them. They can run their little oligarchy from behind the curtain, all the while caliming they were democratically elected, and singing democracy's praises.

They can export their "democracy" to places like Afghanistan and Iraq, ensuring their puppets gain and retain power..."DEMOCRATICALLY".

Their faux democracy is insidious like a disease.

[kittenpants]

135. Notes from a senior security analyst...

This is not your run-of-the-mill mistake in coding vulnerability that we see all the time from Microsoft and the like. This is a backdoor account. A backdoor account is not a mistake. It is purposely placed in code so the developer, or anyone that they choose to inform, can later gain access to the system and perform any activities they choose. As another note regarding the US-Cert alert, look at the last 2 lines:

"No workaround or patch available at time of publishing.

We are not aware of any exploits for this vulnerability."

First, the mere fact that they know that the backdoor account exists, there MUST obviously be a fix - REMOVING THE ACCOUNT FROM THE CODE.

Secondly, there is no exploit for this vulnerability because NO EXPLOIT IS NEEDED. It is not a bug that needs exploiting. It only requires a user to use the account that was created!

[DirtyDawg]

141. Georgia's SOS Office...

...has been claiming they did everything possible and necessary to ensure that the Diebold system installed here for the 2002 election - we may have been the guinea pig for them - was tamper-proof and absolutely secure...and they're still saying that. The problem is compounded by the fact that the Secretary of State was, and is, a Democrat that is now running for the demo nomination for Governor next year. The repigs got the best of everything - upset victories in the previous governor's race along with unseating Max Cleland giving them both Senate seats and both houses of the legislature...and if it were to be proven that the whole thing was, in fact, stolen, guess who's responsible? Is this a red state or what?

[Name removed]

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[plutus5]

147. oh, and by the way...

at least by doing it digitally, they aren't desacrating the names of the dead...hello Chicago, Philly.....and about every other major corrupt democratic controlled city.