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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:48 PM
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No Smiling for Passport Photos in Germany
No Smiling for Passport Photos in Germany

Thu Sep 15,11:47 AM ET

Germans were ordered Thursday to stay serious when having their photographs taken for new passports, wiping away any grins, smirks or smiles so that biometric scanners can pick up their facial features.

Interior Minister Otto Schily ordered passport authorities to only accept pictures taken from the front showing the "most neutral facial expression possible," starting Nov. 1.

Facial recognition systems match key features on the holder's face and work best when the face has a neutral expression with the mouth closed.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050915/ap_on_fe_st/germany_smiles_verboten
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:50 PM
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1. How much money is this database going to be worth to some
private corporation?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:54 PM
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2. and a very sad-looking database it will be. i'm just not very impressed by
our new mechanized, automated world.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:54 PM
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3. Sounds like life imitating The Onion
:D
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:54 PM
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4. LMAO. Must have been one of those Northern Germans !
The Bavarians would never pass a rule like this!
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:57 PM
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5. germans smile?
when?
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bluedonkey Donating Member (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:17 PM
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11. Watch it,
Bubba!I resemble that remark!
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:20 PM
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14. you don't smile?
or is the German smile roughly equivalent to everyone else's "biting into a lemon" look?

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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:00 PM
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6. Alll-Right..You smirking Germans..That Does it!! >>>>>
NO SOUP FOR YOU!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:04 PM
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7. California has that rule for driver license photos.
Am I wrong about that? I seem to recall that when I last went to the dmv.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:07 PM
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8. I'm smiling on my Calif license photo. n/t
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MalibuChloe Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:24 PM
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15. I have a big frown from standing in line for 3 hours...
but I think they told me to smile and I refused.

:-)
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Canadian_moderate Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:14 PM
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9. Pretty sure it's the same for Canada
I think it has more to do with international standards for passports. Must be really hard for people with certain impairment that make them smile.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:20 PM
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13. You are correct.
No smiling Canadian passports for a couple years now.
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Nabia2004 Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:15 PM
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10. Since when did they let anyone smile?
My first experience was in 2000, had to retake the photo because I was smiling. This was here in the USA.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:34 PM
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16. I revised my US passport last year with a big grin on my face.
No problems for me. Of course, I haven't gone out of the country recently - maybe they won't let me back in.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:57 PM
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22. Have been smiling on all my USA passports (on my third now)
Looking older, but smiling
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:18 PM
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12. Same rules on smiling apply to new UK passports
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4215334.stm

In fact all EU countries have common passport system and will be using the same facial recognition technology so it is going to be the same in France, Italy, the Netherlands etc. If at some future time alien visitors recover the remains of our long lost civilisation they are going to wonder why we all look so glum. Of course, they will not have had to look at the ugly mugs of people like Bush and Blair on TV every night.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:35 PM
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17. So. All you have to do is keep smiling while commiting mischief.
And the cameras won't be able to identify you.
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Ignoramus Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:38 PM
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18. They should say boo behind you before snapping the picture
So you'll look more like you would while committing a crime.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:41 PM
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19. I don't think I have a neutral expression
And telling me not to giggle is a sure way to prove it.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:41 PM
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20. That's like telling the Egyptians to stop building igloos.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:43 PM
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21. Oh, God. If they told me not to smile
that would make me want to smile more! Its like being told its wrong to laugh in church!
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