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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:02 PM
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Who's Rich And Who Isn't?
Edward Wolff is a professor of economics at New York University. He is the author of Top Heavy: The Increasing Inequality of Wealth in America and What Can Be Done About It. I got the following information from some comments Wolff makes at this website:

<http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm2003/03may/may03interviewswolff.html>

Or, if you like graphics, it’s all here:

<http://www.inequality.org/facts.html>

The Rich basically own this country. In the United States, in the last survey year, 1998, the richest 1 percent of households owned 38 percent of all wealth. The top 5 percent own more than half of all wealth. In 1998, they owned 59 percent of all wealth. Or to put it another way, the top 5 percent had more wealth than the remaining 95 percent of the population, collectively. The top 20 percent owns over 80 percent of all wealth. In 1998, it owned 83 percent of all wealth. This is a very concentrated distribution.

The bottom 20 percent basically have zero wealth. They either have no assets, or their debt equals or exceeds their assets. The bottom 20 percent has typically accumulated no savings. A household in the middle — the median household — has wealth of about $62,000. $62,000 is not insignificant, but if you consider that the top 1 percent of households’ average wealth is $12.5 million, you can see what a difference there is in the distribution.

The richest 10 percent of families own about 85 percent of all outstanding stocks. They own about 85 percent of all financial securities, 90 percent of all business assets. These financial assets and business equity are even more concentrated than total wealth.

If you break things down by race, you find something very striking. Most people are aware that African-American families don’t earn as much as white families. The average African-American family has about 60 percent of the income as the average white family. But the disparity of wealth is a lot greater. The average African-American family has only 18 percent of the wealth of the average white family

We are much more unequal than any other advanced industrial country. Perhaps our closest rival in terms of inequality is Great Britain. But where the top percent in this country own 38 percent of all wealth, in Great Britain it is more like 22 or 23 percent.

What is remarkable is that this was not always the case. Up until the early 1970s, the U.S. actually had lower wealth inequality than Great Britain, and even than a country like Sweden. But things have really turned around over the last 25 or 30 years. In fact, a lot of countries have experienced lessening wealth inequality over time. The U.S. is atypical in that inequality has risen so sharply over the last 25 or 30 years.

One reason we have such high levels of inequality, compared to other advanced industrial countries, is because of our tax and, I would add, our social expenditure system. We have much lower taxes than almost every Western European country. And we have a less progressive tax system than almost every Western European country. As a result, the rich in this country manage to retain a much higher share of their income than they do in other countries, and this enables them to accumulate a much higher amount of wealth than the rich in other countries.

Certainly our tax system has helped to stimulate the rise of inequality in this country. We also have a much lower level of income support for poor families than do Western European countries or Canada. Social policy in Europe, Canada and Japan does a lot more to reduce economic disparities created by the marketplace than we do in this country. We have much higher poverty rates than do other advanced industrialized countries.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:12 PM
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1. I used to work for the daughter of the 5th wealthiest person in Canada
120th in the world. She and her husband were shocked to hear these wealth distribution figures. She was one of "them" and didn't even know it. She and her dad are Dems through and through, which was a saving grace, imho. When you are born with a golden spoon in your mouth, have been raised in a house full of nannies and servants and have never struggled for a thing, well, let's just say your perspective is WAY different.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:12 PM
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2. Read the following:
"What is remarkable is that this was not always the case. Up until the early 1970s, the U.S. actually had lower wealth inequality than Great Britain, and even than a country like Sweden. But things have really turned around over the last 25 or 30 years."

as "things really turned around thanks to Ronnie & his stupid trickle down economics." The only thing that they are trickling down to us is a warm golden yellow liquid.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:28 PM
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6. The only thing that they are trickling down to us is a warm golden yellow
Then they try to convince us it's raining.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:13 PM
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3. Inequitable income distribution (imho) is the gravest problem we face
I've posted this many times, but I'm guessing a lot of folks don't want to invest the time and (internet) research effort to understand it. I'd advise folks to work at it - it's worth it, imho. Clearly, we're becoming a banana republic - not in some indeterminate future, but right now.

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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:18 PM
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4. Very nice articles w/ great visual aids
I'm going to put these links on my Angry Girl site, thank you!

Nightweed's Hurricane Katrina Aid Organizations
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:19 PM
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5. My grandpa used to say :
Some of the richest people he knew didn't have a dime in thier pockets.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:29 PM
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7. Hi Cuz!
My grandpa used to say the same thing.
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