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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:21 PM
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Remember the NOLA baby that wasn't waking up so easily? He died
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:34 PM by eleny
I believe that the lady was outside the convention center. She was holding her baby and saying he wasn't waking up so easily.

I'm just now watching MSNBC and they reported that the baby had died. This was the first I heard about him. One of many for sure. But they showed that lady several times over these weeks.

Sorry if this is a dupe.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:22 PM
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1. Goddess no!
That's just fucking great. The asshole we have for a president was out cutting cake and playing a guitar while the rest of the nation watched babies dieing live on television.

:cry:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Too bad it wasn't brain dead
and white. Then Bush would have donned his Captain Courageous suit and flown to the rescue.

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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:25 PM
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8. The baby WAS white
nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. The baby was white. nt
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #9
18. Ah, so it wasn't racism
Bush just hates everybody.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. He's one evil son-of-a-bitch. nt
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #18
96. the redsish haired toddler? that baby & mother changed my neigbor
to a dem/aar (anything but reep)in one video clip.

poor poor baby
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #18
120. I don't think it has ever been just racism
it has always been about class. If you poor, that's just tough shit in W's America.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #18
141. He only pretends to care
when it helps poll numbers. Other wise damn us all. :(
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #18
151. Well everyone save the haves and have mores. Stupid value votes!
Thanks a whole bunch! You Morans!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
89. Geez.......................
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:22 PM
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168. See post #148. The baby is alive and well! n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:26 PM
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10. They didn't say that the baby died live on the tv
I think it was some time after. But still.

I want to know about the little boy in the red tee shirt, too. He was in tears.

What happened to "suffer the little children"? Seems like this administration interprets that as "make the children suffer". What bastards.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #10
24. It's called No Child Left Alive! n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #24
142. Well actually
No Child Left Behind because they all moved on. :(
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #142
171. I've been calling NCLB
No Child Left Alive for a long time because that's essentially what it is.

God would I love to make that s.o.b. even TRY to pass the 3rd grade "standard tests"

He'd be left behind alright.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #10
77. I would be shocked if that child did not die very shortly after
being on TV. He was in total heat exhaustion and shock.

mutherfuckers!

:cry:
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #1
167. . EVERYONE SEE POST #148 - HE IS ALIVE
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:23 PM
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2. ----
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:24 PM
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3. He looked so frail.
I've been haunted by that child. :cry:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:30 PM
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17. me too
I was hoping that someone would help her. She reminded me of the mother in the train yard scene from the movie, "The Pianist". In the movie, she kept going up to the other "evacuees" asking for a drop of water for her child who was dying of thirst. That image so closely aligned with that image from the movie for me, that I have not been able to forget it.

I hope that she can find peace some day, but I fear that she never will.

:cry:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #3
22. As have I...
:cry:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #3
49. Me too. He's always been on my mind.
When I watched that video of the convention center and that mother came on, that was when I really LOST IT. Full out bawling. I've been thinking about him so much, I was going to post a thread today asking if anyone had heard how he fared.

now, I bawl again.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. I know ... me too
Her face, the sound of her voice, his limp body. He wasn't even wearing a diaper. :cry::cry::cry:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #3
65. Actually, he died of heat prostration & dehydration.. He was healthy
until they were marooned at the convention center. that baby was wellfed--not a mark on him..His mother took good care of him until she could not find a way to keep him cool and hydrated.:(
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. I know - I guess I should have said "weak" instead
He really looked like he was barely clinging to life in those horrid conditions. It breaks my heart and infuriates me.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #65
158. Yeah, and then fuckers
like that Houston emailer have the unmitigated gall to complain about how the people at the Astrodome weren't polite enough to him to suit him and how "ungrateful" they were! Unfortunately, that's getting to be a pretty common attitude anymore. Never mind that these people have lost everything and have nothing now, many also losing children and family members.

So much for being in favor of a "culture of life", eh King Georgie the Idiot?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #3
76. I was haunted by that poor mother suffering so much for her child...she
was pleading!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #3
155. Me too. Dear God, I'm going to cry again about NOLA.
Mom and baby survive the hurricane and then, a big f*** you from FEMA and ...

I can't stand it, this is not the country I know. MKJ

:cry:
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enigami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:24 PM
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4. Oh shit
thats sad,I know exactly who you are talking about. The woman was so distraught. Did they say what be died of exactly?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:29 PM
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15. No, they didn't say...
The discussion before that with Nora O'D and some other twit was all about the "perception" of the president and how he's trying to change perception of himself tonight. I've got some perception for you, George, you baby killer. How about changing the reality so things are better in the Gulf Coast states and all over America.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #15
164. I'm sure he died from dehydration and heat.
He was only semiconscious. What a horror.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:24 PM
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6.  Oh, god
:cry:

bush is a fucking bastard :grr:

I can't say anymore :cry:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:24 PM
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7. That's a sin, really it is. I hope some liberal lawyers, who don't
mind doing some pro bono work, start putting together these stories of deaths, that didn't have to happen, and that they file civil suits against everyone of these neo-cons so that they can't run away from this. I hope everyone of their waking moments are spent having to deal with these legal actions for years to come.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #7
23. not so much a sin as a CRIME.
separation of church and state, pls.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #23
64. Nah, it was a sin
I'm an atheist, but I believe there is a higher right and wrong than just law. Sin is a good word to describe it. What Bush did was a sin, not just a crime.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #64
75. Be that as it may, unless you have a direct line to "God"
I doubt that a bolt of lightning is going to come down and put the "transgressor" in prison.

I am am anything but an Atheist (nor am I a Christian; in many ways, in fact, staunchly critical of the Judeo-Christian faith). Nevertheless, I firmly believe that the strong hand of Karma is going to come along and visit upon these thugs some horrific fate that makes a Cat 5 look like a cakewalk.

However, Karma takes more time than I think we have.

Therefore....the courts (be they national or international) are our best bet for getting rid of the problem so that this scourge cannot continue killing people in this way.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #75
84. Sin, Karma, it's all the same
It's all a metaphor for what we hope happens to Bush. As for the courts, they are useless. Welcome to the new America. Rome, the Vatican, the Soviet Union... we are one of those empires now, where the government is beyond the people and rules only for its own power. We'll get no justice from them. The people at the Convention Center were waiting for that old government, too.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #84
88. Sorry, but "sin" and "karma" are not the same.
(hate to be cranky here, but I really have a thing with respect for non-Christian religions and the differences between them).

On a purely "factual" level, the concepts aren't the same.

Again, the bigger point is, tho, the only kind of justice we have any "control" over (albeit very little and inceasingly less) is LEGAL.

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #88
97. Sigh
nevermind.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #97
105. yeah ditto. n/t
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #64
93. Absolutely
It is a sin to WATCH people beg for help and not get up off your ass and just give it to them. The president's job - what we pay him for - is to lead and protect ALL of us, not just the wealthiest 2%, the loudest evangelists and largest industries.

Hers wasn't the only gut-wrenching plea I heard and what really, really is getting to me right now is that THEY saw what we did, heard what we did, and STILL they took the time to contemplate as if they had all the time in the world.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #93
161. yes, they continued to turn away rescue crews for days and days- all
while people were dying by the score.
By the time decent numbers of rescuers were let in, there were very, very few live people left to rescue. Just corpses to recover.

Fucking fuckhead fuckwad fuckers. (or FFFF for short.)
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #64
106. Absolutely a SIN
The monster should be forced to see this before he takes his next breath, then face that mother.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #23
162. It is a crime and it is named
Negligent Homocide.

That baby and its mother were at the convention center. The very same convention center that cops were cruising by. That means the CC was reachable by one of the Wally-world trucks loaded with water that were turned back. Not even a helo would have been required to deliver water by the second day.

Just sayin

-Hoot
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:27 PM
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11. I called my RW mom and told her this was another death at bush's feet n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #11
63. Send her vid clips of that poor mom crying and trying to wake him up
------------------------------------------------------
URGENT yet easy! Hold the government accountable for Katrina's aftermath
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4736062

Save the gulf, then save the nation! http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #63
160. Do you have a link to a clip?
I've watched VERY little teevee during this whole debacle. Been getting my news online, and haven't seen anything about this baby before now.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:28 PM
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12. I am sick to my stomach here. I will never forget her pleas.
Tears again here.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #12
80. Oh God! Same here OSO....n/t
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #12
126. I saw it on the news that day and I won't ever forget
that mother's desperation and plea for help. At the time, I found it impossible to believe that her child could really be dying in front of a TV camera crew. How could this happen?

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #126
145. And I never felt so helpless. Sitting here in the comfort of my livingroom
I saw how very sick that baby was and couldn't do a frigging thing. I can't write about this without crying.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:28 PM
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13. another mother who needs a question answered...
of her child's unnecessary death.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:28 PM
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14. oh NO!!!!!!
:cry:

I've been SO WORRIED about that little baby. He died... oh god.

I posted a thread about that precious little baby after that video of the convention center from MSNBC was released. I was so concerned about him.

MY GOD.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. And the tearful little boy in the red tee
I'm worried about him, too. Some faces I just can't get out of my head and I'm not going to try, either. Of children and the elderly and frail. These things should never be forgotten.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #21
55. Like for those who lived through Vietnam. That little girl running after
being napalmed.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #21
144. Exactly
So it'll never happen again.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:29 PM
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16. Oh geez I am so sad!
That lady was crying and saying the baby was too hot and it was hard to wake him up and she was begging for help! Oh man that is just terrible.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #16
45. And there was a man behind her, and I will add he was a black man,
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:38 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
and he put a hat over the mom's head to protect her from the sun. I still cannot believe the inhumanity of it all. Couldn't the frigging reporter who got the soundbite help them? Crying again here.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #45
135. The thing is, the reporter had to report, or we wouldn't know about any of
any of this - if the reporters dropped their cameras to start rescuing people, the Nat'l Guard would have gotten there even later, the helicopters and the buses would have taken even longer. The reporters must have been devastated but if they didn't do the incredible reporting that they did things would have been even worse.

I did wonder why George Bush didn't fly some sick babies to safety in AF1. I think he had plenty of room.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #135
146. I understand what you are saying about the reporter, but as I understand
there were gaggles of press in the french quarter with all sorts of provisions, and just to have asked one of the crew to get that mother and baby out of danger would have been a true blessing.

As to the shrub and AF1, ha!
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #45
139. I was just going to post that
I struck me to the core of my being... that young black man giving up his hat to cover up the white woman so she would not become more sunburned. It showed me a dignity and depth of humanity that * will never understand.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:30 PM
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19. If Dems do not line that picture up against
Little Boots having his vacation and demand a commission with the help of the people, I don't know what it will take anymore.

JUSTICE FOR THE PEOPLE OF NO!!
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:32 PM
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20. Oh, no!
I remember that baby ... and his mother! How terrible!

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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26. The "he's not waking up very easy" baby at the Convention Center died?
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:39 PM by Pirate Smile
Is that what they just said on MSNBC in David Shuster's taped piece?

It was a white woman with a baby at the convention center - they showed them repeatedly - she looked hot and worn out and said "look, he's not waking up very easy".

One time she was saying "this isn't about white people or black people or rich people or poor people, it is just about people".

Did anyone just see that? I thought that was what they said.

edit to add - I see another thread - Yes, the baby died.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4783334

edit to add - Thanks Mods, they dumped my thread into this one.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Oh please no.
:cry:
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Didn't see, but that is just horrible
I remember that family. The kid was limp as a rag doll. How sad. God Bless his little soul.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. i feared his death
having had treated dehydration of my own child at very young age. he should have been airlifted by those reporting the news. are you sure he died?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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32. I was hoping some other people were also watching MSNBC.
Tweety has an early show on and he was speaking to David Shuster and Shuster had a taped piece.

That was what I thought they said but I was also putting groceries away so I just wanted to confirm that they said what I thought they said.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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36. He'll be on again in a few hours...
I'll watch it.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:27 PM
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98. only tourists and diplomats wre escorted form theh Dome,
'tho IIRC she was at the convention center. Sick. Wonder if he'll get the kind of 'media play" little baby Bailey got in Oklahoma?

Another Mother filled with sorrow. Ain't that America?
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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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30. I dont get MSNBC
in my area. But I remember the baby. My mom said the baby was dead because it looked so lifeless and wouldn't take its bottle. Another death from incompetence mixed with arrogance.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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31. I remember them
and remember thinking that the child was near death. Damn. And how many others do we not have a face for? :cry:
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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33. I saw it
she should have been evacuated in priority
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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34. So they did say that the baby died?
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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38. I didn't see her on MSNBC but on French TV
I think this woman was aired all over the world, I remember having seen her at least twice. The description of her and her baby and her statements fit very well with my memories...

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:38 PM
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46. Yes
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:39 PM by eleny
They showed the clip of her and then the voiceover said so. The piece was a few minutes before I posted. A newsbreak during Chris Matthews' program that's been airing now.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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35. Oh no..........
:cry:

I remember that woman. OMG!

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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37. I've buried a baby
My son, Trevor, died at 2 months, 6 days of SIDS.

Seeing that woman holding her baby, knowing he was likely to die, just destroyed me. There are no words for the contempt I have for everyone responsible for this tragedy. No words.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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40. I'm so sorry, lazarus.
There are no words. :cry:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:39 PM
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48. I am so sorry for your loss lazarus
:grouphug:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:40 PM
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53. I'm sorry, lazarus
I'm sorry for your loss and for this piece bringing it back.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM
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59. .
:hug:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM
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61. *hugs*
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:51 PM
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72. I can't think of anything worse than having to bury one of my children
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:51 PM by NNN0LHI
Children are supposed to bury parents. My deepest condolences to you and your family.

Don
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:11 PM
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131. There is nothing worse.
And the worst part about that baby dying in NO, is that it was totally preventable.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:55 PM
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78. I am so very sorry n/t
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:03 PM
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83. .
:hug:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:34 PM
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102. im so sorry lazarus
no words...
we must never forget these people.
peace and love
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:59 PM
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121. I'm so sorry that had to happen to you.
This is so very tragic.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:00 PM
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122. So sorry for your loss, lazarus...
I have two children and I cannot even begin to imagine what you went through.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:10 PM
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129. Oh, Laz.
I didn't know. How awful for you. I am sure you are still grieving that beautiful little boy.

:hug:
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:27 PM
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169. yup
He would have turned 16 last week. Still gets me worked up sometimes.

Thanks to everyone who posted.
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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:18 PM
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138. Oh Lazarus, I'm so very sorry for your loss.
There are truly no words. Right now I am going through having my grown adopted son (in his own words, "my big ol' used baby") dying, and my heart just weeps for desperate mothers who can do nothing to save their children.

That poor mother at the Convention Center was the epitome of desperation and despair. There is no reason on this earth why that baby had to die.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:19 PM
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140. oh, lazarus, I am SO sorry
I wish there were words to tell you how much.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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39. Oh, no. I hope you misheard. That little baby has been weighing on
my mind since I saw him with his mother.

But then, every baby and child I saw has been haunting me.

The one picture I saw of a child floating in the water devastated me. I had to shut off the TV and break from the internet for a couple of days after that one. Even now I start to cry just thinking on it. :cry:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM
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60. I would be so happy to be wrong
When they showed the clip, it grabbed my attention. And when he said they heard later that.... I thought how great, maybe it's good news finally. But it was the worst.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:43 PM
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62. No, he died. I wish I had heard wrong.
:cry:
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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41. That makes me so fucking mad.
And sad. Fucking outraged.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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42. What has * brought Amerika to?
What ever happened to women and children first?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM
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56. oh NO!!!!
:cry: :cry: :cry:

Having been through the sleepy dehydrated baby situation with my first-born I was so scared when I saw them that he wouldn't make it without some help.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:49 PM
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71. I'm glad we could confirm each other
But I know we'd give a lot to be so very wrong. I'm even holding out hope that they'll do a retraction or whatever. This is all too much. Every day some story of how uplifting ordinary people can be. But also each day more tragedies.

And now that damned Buchanan beseeching W to not act like he cares but to be caring. Like all that matters is that bastard's image. They're even laughing it up talking about the politics. I can't stand it.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:04 PM
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85. These families, who lost babies and other family members because of
the slow response, are the only ones who can force Bush and Congress to create an Independent Commission. Just like the 9/11 families had to force the government to do it, these people will have to do it also.

It is so, so sad. :cry:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:55 PM
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116. Yes, like Cindy Sheehan - it will be the families...
and we'll be supporting them.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:36 PM
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43. self delete
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:37 PM by Pirate Smile
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:36 PM
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44. And tonight W is going for "A Bullhorn Moment"?
This is so galling. Like he's somebody. Like he matters.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:39 PM
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47. EXACTLY!
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:39 PM
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50. LINK TO VIDEO ARCHIVE
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM by Walt Starr
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9269453/

Scroll down to September 1: Chaos and Desperation. She's holding the child in the Desperate Cries for Help video link.

Better video of her and her baby dieing in her arms in the Desperation in New Orleans video.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:40 PM
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52. Think that made it to the DVD made for bush?
:sarcasm:

I'm so fucking pissed right now :grr: My hatred has grown even more for those bastards who are up there yucking it up. They've stolen this country and treated it like a little kid in a fucking candy store who was given free reign.

That poor mother begged and pleaded for help. They have the fucking audacity to say they didn't know. :grr:

They knew!

I'll say it again! New Orleans is bush's holocaust!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:54 PM
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115. I would bet it did and I hope someone tells him the baby died.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:40 PM
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54. OMG NO! I remember her and her adorable little baby!
I cannot believe this. :cry: OMG. :cry: That poor woman, that precious baby. :cry: THIS DID NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN and I hope she files MURDER charges against the Federal Government! :grr:
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM
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57. Oh my god
I'm crying all over again. I can't stop crying.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM
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58. No words to express my repulsiveness towards **n/t
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:45 PM
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66. I'm not cried out it seems
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:46 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
I've kept hope alive in my heart he was saved until now. His poor mother...
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:11 PM
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132. Me either, apparently.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:47 PM
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68. "Err on the side of life" indeed!
How about it Frist? How about it Delay? How about it Scarborough? How about it you bunch of Republican grandstanders? How about "err on the side of life" now?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:48 PM
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69. I don't know if this sadness & rage that I I feel will ever go away
I hope KO does a piece on this tonight as a contrast to that little monkey's speech tonight.





My heart grieves for everyone who had to watch a loved one die because bush*inc intentionally withheld lifesaving aide.


FUGWB!!! :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:49 PM
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70. OH NO!!!
All the needless deaths are horrible, this just hits home because we saw her pleading for help to save her baby.

:cry:

How does Bush sleep at night?

Never mind, I know. Narcissistic sociopathic SOB.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:51 PM
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73. I was afraid of that
he looked barely alive in her arms. Oh how horrible....

:cry: :cry: :cry:
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:52 PM
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74. Another body to lay at their feet.
This one very small and defenseless. I burn for justice.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:57 PM
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79. She's the one in blue with the baby (naked)
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:17 PM
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136. Those photos are what we MUST NOT forget!
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 07:18 PM by TheGoldenRule
Thanks for posting them.

We can't let these bastards get away with it! :grr:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:00 PM
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81. Good God. I remember that woman
being interviews while she held her son., He was limp from being dehydrated. She said something to the effect of "this isn't about Black or White. This is about people." There was a young Black woman behind her that put a baseball cap on her head to shield her from sun. A lot of people of all races were helping eachother. This is sad. I am both sad and furious. This little boy did not have to die. Neglect killed him. This mom was desperately beeseching for help for her son. Oh my God. :cry:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:00 PM
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82. RIP little one . . .
:cry:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:05 PM
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86. Oh, I'm so sorry.
I was so hoping that little one would survive. :cry:
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:07 PM
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87. Oh damn.
How is it a nation watched this mother beg for help and she not get it?? It's 2005 and the press flew down and sloshed their way about NO but the agency created to streamline the process of responding to a national crisis was too tangled up with bureaucratic bullshit to move decisively. If we saw it, they saw it - never forget that, no matter what the hell comes from their sham of an investigation.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:09 PM
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90. I remember that poor mother
she was so hot, holding the baby and begging for help! A black man standing behind her, kindly straightened out her hat! I remember thinking how kind he was, to worry about her like that!!

And CNN is worried about this president's IMAGE?? Of what importance is he? He's a danger to humanity!!

There are no words to describe the anger I feel towards all of them. We know they murdered Iraqi children, and hid it from the American people, but I have never forgotten little Ali, whose arms and legs were blown off by Bush's bombs, and whose whole family, including his pregnant mom, were killed in their apartment when this criminal administration bombed their city!! And he kept crying from pain because there was no medicine in the hospital, and calling for his mom!!

Why is there not more outrage, here, from the world?

A baby was crushed to death in the Convention Center also, because people panicked when a building nearby blew up!! How many babies died while he and his vile administration partied and shopped?

I don't think I can stand to listen to him tonight ~ I'll wait for the lies to appear in a transcript.

Those poor parents, they will never, ever get over this ~ :cry:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:10 PM
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91. Meanwhile they lock up a 70 year old woman
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 05:11 PM by malaise
for taking food from a deli. I guess the philosophy is thou shall not steal but we can starve you to death. Tha child died as a result of the Feds criminal negligence.

edit -sp.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:13 PM
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92. I'm so sorry to hear this
I've often wondered what happened to that little baby. :cry:
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:17 PM
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94. The woman's name is Lee Bemboom. n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:18 PM
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95. Recommend this people
It should stay on the front page for a while. I don't know why I think that would help. But we should remember this little guy.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:29 PM
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99. The old man who they gave water and food
on that stretcher also died. Just saw his family on MSNBC - died seven days after. Damn he was a WWII veteran. One more death due to criminal negligence.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:30 PM
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100. This is just so awful. Negligent homicide, nothing less.
I can still see that woman's anguished face and the baby hanging limply off her shoulder. Bush and his criminal cohorts deserve to roast in HELL.
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :nuke:
There isn't a smilie yet invented that could describe the anger and horror I'm feeling right now.

I also remember a lady with triplets on the videos from those first few days, perhaps it was also outside the Convention Center. I'm just praying those poor, sweet babies didn't pass away either. Will we ever find out the truth about countless others of the most innocent and helpless that died.

:cry:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:23 PM
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109. I remember the woman with the triplets
My god! They were so young. I don't think they'd even be walking yet.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:59 PM
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119. I remember her also. Those babies looked alert. She was sitting
on a curb holding the three of them.

I haven't heard anything about those babies. They looked healthy compared to the baby who wouldn't wake up - who died.

I was just thinking of which people I specifically remember because I saw them on TV multiple times. I also thought of the black woman holding the triplets.

I also think of the elderly lady who kept dabbing her face with a rag or handkerchief.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:32 PM
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101. ...
Words cannot express......
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:49 PM
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103. I was just wondering...
I don't mean to take any blame from the idiot inhabiting the White house, but is there a reason why the reporters on the scene couldn't have given the baby a bottle of water and/or helped her? Sorry if this has been answered, but as a reporter and writer myself, I have little patience for those who stand by and report when they could be saving a life.

Poor baby, poor babies, poor mamas and dads - I don't know how Bush sleeps at night...but then, he's oblivious, I suppose.
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Blue State Blues Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:55 AM
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170. By that point, the baby needed medical attention
I'm saying this as a parent, not a doctor, but if you can't rouse a child who is suffering from heat or dehydration it's not something you can treat at home -- just giving water isn't enough, you have to take the child to a hospital for IV fluids and other medical attention. For all we know, the reporters did try to give the baby water, but it just wasn't enough.

I hope this makes sense, it's hard to type while sobbing my eyes out.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:54 PM
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104. Just when I think my heart can't break again.
What of the 3 wk old baby held up by that man?

"He doesn't have any formula!" And the tearful young woman, late teens early twenties, reaches out to touch the babe's hand hand.

What of him?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:20 PM
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107. Those RWers love the fetus, hate the baby - as Randi would say.
I'm just absolutely disgusted and so sad for that mother. She tried the best that she could. She was waking the baby up at regular intervals, it seemed.

UGH!!!!!! I HATE THIS ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!! That baby did NOT have to die. Those people in NOLA who evacuated to shelters of last resort did not, SHOULD not have died.

There is blood on this administration's hands. It IS a sin to have the power to help someone and to withhold that help. These people were God's children. Bush should remember that when he meets his Maker.
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tamtam Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:20 PM
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108. Oh my god
I am so sorry I'm done. I cannot take this anymore.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:27 PM
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110. What that mother must be feeling now.
I can't imagine.
What a contrast to Barbara Bush's insensitive quote about how "it's working out well for them".
I also saw (this morning) an update on that elderly man that MSNBC reporter Kerry Saunders fed in the airport (MRE food). He died as well.
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HoosierClarkie Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:32 PM
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111. I really hope the MSM is seriously changed by this.
:cry:


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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:33 PM
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112. I was so hoping that the baby would be okay.
That poor mother.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:36 PM
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113. I'm crying...
bastard
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:37 PM
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114. thanks for the update
I have thought so often about that baby and the desperate mother.
What a tragedy.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:56 PM
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117. Culture of LIfe.
:grr:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:57 PM
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118. Well that's very bad news. I wondered about that baby.
Who will take responsiblity for those babies and people who died because no one came to help them. If that couple in charge of the nursing home are being charged than so should those at the top of this disaster, and you all know the tip top people and it's not the mayor or governor.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:02 PM
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123. Oh, no.
:cry:

May he rest in peace, poor little guy. :(
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:05 PM
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124. No goddamn it no!
This isn't supposed to happen here damn it!

Greatest Country my ass! We can't even save one baby, one little baby from dying from dehydration. This isn't the greatest country, this isn't even a great country anymore. It's a machine now. Something not alive but only runs because it's designed to do so. It runs the way those in charge want it to run. This is a machine, not a country.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:07 PM
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125. from Keiths coverage
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look how hot he is. He is not waking up very easy. I am not—this is not about low income, it‘s not about rich people, poor people. It is about people.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need help, sir. We really do. We need help. They‘re not doing nothing, they‘re not telling us nothing, they‘re not doing nothing.

Look at all of these old people (INAUDIBLE) without their medication, their wheelchairs. We need help, sir. We really need help.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look at these babies. These babies (INAUDIBLE).

This is not right. This is not right.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9173374/
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:11 PM
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130. Keith will cover what happened to Charles Evans - a young boy
He's the little boy who looked right into the camera and said "how bad it is out here". The child spoke about how people were dying and how he didn't want to end up like that. KO is going to cover what happened to Charles. Let it be good news. Please!
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:47 PM
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143. Was that the little boy in the "Spongebob" shirt?
He was taken in by relatives along with his Gramma. But his great Aunt died. I gather he witnessed it.

His relatives found him at the computer writing her obituary. One line - "I will never forget the kindness of her face." :cry:

Oh what a dear sweet child that had to grow up too soon.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:08 PM
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127. Oh no!
So sad, the poor little innocent thing!:-(
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:09 PM
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128. Oh, God. No. I was hoping and praying he made it.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:11 PM
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133. OMG, I am heartbroken!
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 07:13 PM by TheGoldenRule
I thought that womans' baby had survived! :cry:

Of course we will hear diddly squat about this on the news! The public is NOT being shown the truth anymore at all! Oh sure we had a week of real news because the media was trying to shame * into action. But now? Forgetaboutit! What about all the other babies?! What about the missing children?! What about those 2000 postal workers?! I am so LIVID I can't see straight right now! :cry: :grr:

:rant:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:14 PM
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134. If I was that lady, I would be suing B* et al in court. You can't sue
the government for a policy, but you can sue them if they were neglect in administering the policy. Especially after that pompous ass, Brown said that the federal Government did nothing wrong.

So incredibly sad...

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:18 PM
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137. How sad
:cry:
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Demmygirl9888 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:01 PM
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147. It Just Breaks My Heart...
My deepest sympathies go out to his mother.
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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:14 PM
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148. Bemboom mother and baby are ALIVE
I don't know what to make of this. Is this a different mother and baby, or is the report wrong?

http://www.2theadvocate.com/livepages5/782.shtml
http://media1.dfw.swagit.com/s/wbrz/The_Advocate/09142005-3.high.asx.html
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:19 PM
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150. It looks like them!!!! They are alive!!!
Compare the pictures!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:53 PM
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157. It looks like them to me, too!!!
This may be one happy ending!

I don't blame MSNBC for reporting wrong. They may have confused another baby that died with Lee B's little boy. After all, other children have perished. And so many children have been separated form their families.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:02 PM
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159. Looks like them. There's a lg photo in this slide set
from the street in front of the convention center-

click on the picture with the story, it's plate 7 in the slide set
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/02/AR2005090200670_2.html
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:45 PM
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165. Thank God. What was MSNBC talking about?
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 09:47 PM by Pirate Smile
Did anyone start a thread saying he is alive.

Ugghh. Somebody set up a scam supposedly raising money for them which they know nothing about.

She still looks wiped out. Two weeks in a shelter and it sounds like those are crazy too.
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:01 PM
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166. Thank you for posting that. I am so relieved!
I have been wondering what happened to them. I was so afraid the child might not make it because he seemed to be in rather dire straits when they were at the Convention Center. I was really worried about him. Whew! He made it! He and his mother fought back against Dubya's complete indifference and won. The kid really beat the odds there.

I'd also like to thank the OP for starting this thread. I had been thinking about starting a similar thread for the past few days but never got around to it because I guess would have felt bad if the post wound up informing everyone that the kid didn't make it. Yeah, we deserve to know but damn, that still would have been tough to hear. I'm soooo glad I was wrong about that.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:08 PM
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172. YAY!
Now might be a good time to resurrect that thread some kind soul started about a DU toy drive between now & the end of the year for these kids.


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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:18 PM
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149. This just makes me sick - absolutely sick. Especially so now, since
I'm listening to his murderer on TV. That asshole should be forced to attend this child's funeral and send every last cent that he posseses to his mother. And still it wouldn't ever atone for what he has done!
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:24 PM
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152. EVERYONE SEE POST #148 - HE IS ALIVE
This is wonderful news!!! I was so depressed when I read this earlier today. All I could do was hug my kids. I'm so happy he survived.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:34 PM
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154. Which pictures?! If it's true this is such great news!
I saw the collage picture above. Where is the other picture to compare it?

Praying hard that he's okay. Did MSNBC make a retraction?
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:47 PM
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156. That is them!
No doubt. I am so glad for this mother. The baby looked healthy.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:25 PM
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153. i'm sorry to hear that
unfortunately i do remember watching that coverage & i did not see how that child would survive

106 heat index, no food, no water, no way for a child to survive that

very sad

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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:27 PM
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163. Oh shit :(
I watched that when it was first shown and my husband and I both said Oh my God that baby is dead--I can't take too much more of this.

WTF??? WTF???? WTF???
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