The rules at Falwell's College (in case you haven't seen them before)

[pstokely]

http://www.liberty.edu/studentaffairs/index.cfm?PID=1417

[BlackVelvetElvis]

1. When I was in art school.

About 20 years ago, my friends and I got an application to Liberty. It actually asked if we had ever tried drugs. We decided to write "Yes, Frankincense and Myrrh".
Oh how we laughed.

[MN ChimpH8R]

2. This link is either

incredibly funny or horrifying maybe both.

http://www.lastdaysministries.org/articles/uncoveringthetruthaboutmodesty.html

"Did you put your clothes on for Jesus" :puke: :crazy: :wtf:

[Heddi]

I like this line

if you are drawing attention to yourself, then you are drawing attention away from God and stealing His glory.

Wow. Apparently I went to school with God. He was a female cheerleader who derided anyone who was 'cooler' than she.

God has jealousy issues, apparently.

[converted_democrat]

5. Thank you for the laugh, that was the funniest thing I've read in long

time.:spray:

[Heddi]

13. Down thread, someone stated that at Oral Roberts university

you have to meet certain physical and body-shape requirements.

Which just PROVES my assertation that God is, in fact, a vapid air-head cheerleader.

Which further proves that God also has bad fake nails, cheap spiral perms, and drives his older brother's old Accura to school and has a name like Jenni or Jay-Mee (I went to school with a cheerleader with that exact name)

[flordehinojos]

19. ain't that what falwell himself is doing? stealing God's glory. i say yes.

[donheld]

9. "Did you put your clothes on for Jesus"

NO! I took them off for him :evilgrin:

[Heddi]

3. Wow! Mandatory drug testing?

http://www.liberty.edu/studentaffairs/index.cfm?PID=1358

In the Fall semester of 1988, the University instituted an on-going program of mandatory random drug testing for students. The purpose of this program is to detect the use of illegal drugs and administer disciplinary action against those students and employees whose way of life is incompatible with the University community and whose example and conduct may be a detriment to the lives of other students and employees. To that extent, Liberty University is committed to using every lawful means at its disposal to preserve the purposes upon which it was founded and continues to exist.


# To participate in this drug-testing program which permits the University to test any student, irrespective of the method by which that student was selected. Student selection will be accomplished both on a random basis and on the basis of suspected use and/or drug possession as defined in the drug testing procedure manual.
# That failure to cooperate with the University's drug testing program will result in disciplinary action against a student, including the possibility of administrative withdrawal from the University.

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Which movies you can and cannot watch:

http://www.liberty.edu/studentaffairs/index.cfm?PID=1345

Current policy for movie viewing allows for attendance at theaters but prohibits viewing of movies rated "R", "NC-17" or "X". The penalty for viewing such movies is a reprimandable offense. It should be remembered that in no way is Liberty University endorsing the movie industry's rating system as appropriate or Christ-honoring. In addition, the Division of Student Affairs will continue teaching guidelines and principles to students related to all forms of entertainment. This would mean that many "PG-13" and some "PG" movies, although not prohibited by policy, may also be inappropriate.

Music
Philosophy, tastes and personal convictions concerning music vary greatly among our students. Liberty University endeavors to teach discernment in evaluating and selecting all music. It is Liberty's desire to maintain a music standard that is conducive to a healthy Christian atmosphere. Students should learn to choose music that honors the Savior and is in harmony with God's word. Music that is offensive (i.e., lewd lyrics, anti-Christian messages, etc.) to Liberty's Christian stand is not permitted. This policy is implemented because:



* The University desires to suggest a conservative policy for music, which honors the Lord.
* Music expresses such an expansive variety of culture and background, attitude and thought, belief and message.
* Some music, in its message, is clearly contrary to the standards of Liberty University.
* There is a wide variance in personal styles and tastes.
* Controversy surrounds some particular preferences.

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on Marriage:

Students under the age of 21 are encouraged to obtain permission from parents before getting married.

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On Dress Codes:

men:

http://www.liberty.edu/studentaffairs/index.cfm?PID=1335

Hair and clothing styles related to a counterculture (as determined by the Deans' Review Committee) are not acceptable. Hair should be cut in such a way that it will not come over the ears, collar or eyebrows at any time. Ponytails for men are unacceptable. Facial hair should be neatly trimmed. Earrings and/or plugs are not permitted on or off campus, nor is body piercing. Questions concerning the standard of dress for men should be addressed to the Dean of Men's Office.

Shorts are never acceptable in convocation or in classes (regardless of time), with the exception of physical fitness classes.

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women:

http://www.liberty.edu/studentaffairs/index.cfm?PID=7764

Hair and clothing styles related to counterculture (as determined by the Deans’ Review Committee) are not acceptable. Dresses and skirts should be no shorter than the top of the knee (sitting or standing). Skirt slits should be modest; open slits should be no higher than the top of the knee, closed slits should be no higher than two inches from the top of the knee. Shoulder straps should be no less than two inches wide. Anything tight, scant, backless, see-through, low in the neckline or revealing the midriff (in any position) is immodest and unacceptable. Slips should be worn under thin material. Earrings and plugs are permitted in ears only. No other facial piercings or plugs are allowed, including tongue.



Swimwear is only appropriate at the swimming pool. Students are to wear appropriate casual or sport attire (as stated in "The Liberty Way") going to and from the pool. Women are required to wear a one-piece suit that is in good taste. Swimsuits that are see-through/mesh, expose the midriff and/or are low in the front or back or cut high on the legs are not acceptable.

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I wonder if Burka's are "highly reccomended"?

what a bunch of bullshit

[pstokely]

8. How do they enforce these rules off-campus and during breaks?

Do these rules apply to students enrolled in the Liberty Home Bible Institute?

[Heddi]

14. according to the website

you're supposed to adhere to ALL the rules even during vacations and breaks when you're off campus. Maybe they give parents those Home Drug Test kits, or highly reccomend that they test their kids during the summer or some shit.

I am a believer of the idea that if you treat people like children, they will act accordingly. If you treat people like adults and give them a modicum of trust and reponsibility, they too will act accordingly.

At least they're not like Bob Jones University which used to prohibit interracial dating and still prohibits hand-holding on campus and everyone who goes on a date must do so with an adult chapperone in tow. :eyes:

[cynatnite]

17. Rexburg, ID has a private mormon college...

They're about the same way from I remember, but the students were wild once they got away from mommy and daddy. It was mostly rich kids who got handed brand new cars at graduation.

Some not to bright bulbs in that bunch.

[jmowreader]

25. Okay, I gotta know...

If your hair is cut so that it doesn't touch the ears, collar or eyebrows, how in HELL can you make it into a ponytail? Because the shit sez you must have short hair and you can't wear it in a ponytail, so obviously this is possible.

Now, as for the Liberty University drug testing policy: I figure I'd have to be stoned around the clock to put up with Falwell's bullshit, so basically they're telling me I shouldn't apply to this institution of high-level brainwashing. Not that I was intending to in the first place.

[XanaDUer]

4. I think their rules are looser than BJU.

...

[pstokely]

7. BJU has no accreditation, Liberty does

[jmowreader]

26. USMC boot camp's rules are looser than BJU

I really only know of one place that's worse than BJU, and that's Pensacola Christian College.

Actually, I kinda like the fact that BJU, Liberty, Campbell, PCC and all of the other fundie colleges put their rulebooks online. It's for the students' own good. Consider: mom and dad tell Ophelia that she can go to any college she wants, but they'll pay for her to go to PCC, BJU or Campbell. (One of these things is not like the other: Campbell, while maintaining the standards and traditions that have caused students to liken the dedication required to go to Campbell with that required for running into burning buildings, is accredited.) Okay, so Ophelia chooses PCC. Not having read the PCC student handbook, when she packs for college among the things she puts in her bag are 100 R-rated DVDs, six pair of cutoffs, the complete oeuvre of King Crimson, and a set of Latin hand drums. Ophelia will probably be escorted to the prison gate. But if she can read the PCC student handbook beforehand and know not to bring any DVDs much less the violent ones, no cutoffs, no secular or contemporary Christian music, and no drums, she'll also know not to bring her happy ass to PCC in the first place. (Y'know, they still do have student loans...)

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. Had a friend who went there. Poor thing

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[Fifth of Five]

10. When my daughter

was looking at colleges a couple of years ago, she got an information request form from Liberty. If you returned it, you would be entered in a contest - one of the prizes was a Jeep Liberty. No kidding.

How hard up for students are they?

[Coyote_Bandit]

11. At Oral Roberts University

you have to be able to swim to graduate. That requires diving in and swimming the length of an olympic pool face down and again doing the backstroke and it also requires being able to tread water for five minutes.

They also require students to pass a fitness test (run 3 miles in less than a certain time) every semester. If you don't then you are put on probation.

They also require students to have their body fat tested each semester. If they deem you too fat then you are required to lose eight pounds the following semester. If you don't then you are put on probation.

[Heddi]

12. Wow. So God Hates Fatties?

disclaimer: I am fat.

I thought God loved us all, regardless of BMI. Apparently, I was correct in my revelation above, that God is really a female cheerleader who feels that all must emulate her style and body shape to be considered "cool"

I wonder if God gets bad spiral perms as well?

[Coyote_Bandit]

16. Gotta Keep Up Appearances You Know

Those required PE classes each semester were to teach how not to be fat. They also have a strict dress code and hair code (bad spiral perms seem to be allowed). And mandatory church attendance and twice weekly chapel attendance. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

I live in crazy red f*cking Tulsa JOKlahoma. I've seen more than one ORU person (e.g., student, faculty, staff) order their dinner wine served in a coffee cup lest they be found out and expelled (or fired).

When the school was first founded they had a student honor code that had a positive focus (i.e., a statement that I will seek to be Christlike and to read the Bible, etc.). About 20 years ago that was changed to a student honor code with a negative focus (i.e., I will not engage in homosexual acts, partake of alcoholic beverages, etc.).

I have to add, however, that Oral Roberts himself prohibited students from wearing black armbands on campus to protest the tenth anniversary of Roe v Wade. Seems the old man is - or at least was - a democrat.

YAnd yeah, I'm more than a little plump myself.

[karlrschneider]

36. Don't know about now but back in the 70s a LOT of ORU boys could be

found in the various Tulsa gay bars...
:D

[Coyote_Bandit]

37. Yep

And there is an ORU gay alumni association. Not affiliated with the university of course. Though I seem to remember that they have caused a ruckus at homecoming and class reunions.

[cynatnite]

15. The worst is off campus living:

(University personnel may periodically visit the private residence of off campus students to assist in resolving off campus problems and to ensure compliance to University regulations.)

They bolded it.

http://www.liberty.edu/studentaffairs/index.cfm?PID=1311

[TlalocW]

18. I had a friend who went to Baptist Bible College

In Springfield, Missouri. He's pretty religious but not in your face about it. BBC by the way has Jerry Falwell as an alumni.

They had similar rules - certain dress code for men and women, you weren't supposed to watch certain shows or TV at all, same with the radio. You weren't supposed to go to movies, etc. You had to sign something that stated you agreed with this.

Well, my friend loves music of all kinds, plays several instruments, and is a movie-holic. He also had facial hair which was a no-no.

To get around that he went to the doctor in our hometown (less than 2000 people), who also happened to be the only Jewish guy in town. He asked him to write him a note that said he had a skin condition that made shaving painful. The doc asked why, and my friend told him. The doctor's reply was, "So, you're asking me to lie to Baptists? Sure!" :)

TlalocW

[pstokely]

20. how did they enforce the rules off-campus there?

[TlalocW]

29. I have no idea

I figured it would be the honor system since these good Christian students wouldn't lie or anything. They might have had people who visited students who lived off campus, but I never asked. I was too busy enjoying all the weird looks I was getting for walking around with a maustache/goatee while wearing tennis shoes and a Superman t-shirt while attending classes with my friend.

TlalocW

[Endangered Specie]

21. "Attendance at Liberty University is a privilege,"

:rofl::rofl:

[Heddi]

22. More like a prison sentence

I think I'd rather masturbate with a cheese grater than attend that "Institution of Higher Learning"

what a bunch of crapola

[distantearlywarning]

23. I am pleased to see that men are not allowed to wear Speedos at the pool

Now that IS offensive! :rofl:

In all seriousness, they treat these kids like 12 year olds, even the grad students. How will these students know how to set limits and make decisions for themselves when they get out into the "real world" and don't have a set of rules to follow? Oh, wait. I almost forgot. Then it will be the job of their minister to tell them what to do. :eyes:

[FlaGranny]

32. Speedos? I guess that means

that they send no swimmers to swim competitions. Or do they go in those suits that reach the knees? That would be hard on your chances to win.

[Maat]

24. If you test positive on a drug-screen ..

does Falwell ask you to give HIM some of that good weed?

Just asking.

:P

[DanCa]

27. Falwell is in illiterate pig how can he have a college?

Only in America right?

[DemGirl7]

34. Of course...

How else can you explain this and the fact that Jerry's illiterate pig buddy Pat Robertson also has his own college too?

[Silverhair]

28. So ? They are a PRIVATE school.

They can have pretty much any rules they want to have. I don't think they care if they have DU approval or not.

[Bridget Burke]

30. Yes, but this is an amusing topic for a Friday morning.

With war, disaster & idiot politicians in the headlines, we need a few laughs.

[JugDack]

31. Jesus would be expelled!

His hair alone would do it, never mind his behavior.

LOL! Morans....:eyes:

[Lochloosa]

33. So, I guess games involving the Military and Killing 'terrrisst'

are ok.

Video Games
The playing of video games that are “A” and “RP” -rated is not permitted, and is a reprimandable offense. The playing of “EC”, “E”, and “T”-rated games are permitted but should be played with discretion. Any “M” -rated games with descriptors indicating any sexual content, alcohol/drug content, or strong language are not permitted, and is a reprimandable offense. “M” -rated games depicting violence will be at the discretion of Resident Directors. Liberty University refers to the Bible for all moral standards.

NOTE: Many games portray realistic military operations and while they contain violence descriptors, they do not contain any reference to sexual themes, drug/alcohol use, and/or strong language. Games that contain criminal violence not suitable for playing on campus are often paired with descriptors such as strong sexual themes, strong language, drug use, etc.

[Heddi]

35. yeah, you can't have long hair

or wear shorts during class, but you can go around killing brown people
??? :wtf: