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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:47 PM
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Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 06:51 PM by ls317
No Confirmed Information on Other NOLA Level-3 Labs Involved in Bioweapons Research – At Least One Lab Reportedly Compromised

by Michael C. Ruppert

September 13, 2005 0800 PST (FTW) – Prior to the arrival of Hurricane Katrina on August 29th, the greater New Orleans area was a significant hub of infectious disease and biological weapons research. At least five Level-3 biolabs were located either in New Orleans or in its nearby suburb of Covington. Level-4 is the only higher containment level and is used primarily for weapons research on hemorrhagic fevers and other viral agents. Although there were many causes for alarm with Katrina, the biggest initial worry for FTW had been the status of nearly 5,000 monkeys (kept outdoors behind barbed wire) used in infectious disease research at the Tulane University National Primate Center.

National Institutes of Health spokesperson Ann Puderbaugh told FTW, “The National Primate Research Center at Tulane came through the storm just fine. There were no injured or escaped animals and there was no release of any biological agents due to other causes.”

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reported very little damage and no release of agents at any of its monitored facilities. CDC maintains a Select Agent Release Program and had issued warnings prior to Katrina’s landfall and had subsequently posted a request for any labs compromised to immediately notify them. CDC spokesman Von Roebuck told FTW, as far as the Select Agent program was concerned, “We made an immediate outreach to all of these laboratories. The reports back were that there had been little or no damage. No loss of or release of any agent occurred and there is currently security in place at all of our facilities.”
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/091305_orleans_bioweapons_summary.shtml
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:49 PM
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1. 404: Not found.
but your extract read like a standard tinfoiler attempt to spin up nothing and create fear.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:53 PM
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3. Uhh, that actually happened........
I'm not sure about exactly how many labs were destroyed, or what they had in them, but that did happen. (I read it a few days ago, and forget the details) It's been on 3 or 4 threads from real sources. It's been talked about all week.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:00 PM
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4. All the quotes say there was little or no damage.
They don't say the labs were destroyed.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:05 PM
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5. Really?
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 07:12 PM by converted_democrat
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/09/10/exiled_from_their_la_labs_scientists_assess_their_losses/?page=1

NEW ORLEANS -- Hurricane Katrina devastated scientific research in this city, claiming thousands of laboratory animals, ruining valuable caches of tissue, and interrupting clinical experiments as patients scattered across the nation.
Research into treatments for epilepsy, hypertension, and obesity, as well as the development of vaccines, has been severely impeded by the storm. Restoring what has been lost could easily take years, researchers said.
snip-
The storm has made scientists such as Kyriakos Papadopoulos of Tulane exiles from their labs. He was among a large cadre of collaborators working on vaccines against possible bioterror agents.

Edit- to put the snips in.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:09 PM
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6. Ummm ... researching obesity is not developing bioweapons.
These are not the labs talked about in the original piece.

After the smart bomb, the fat bomb, eh?
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:13 PM
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7. Maybe you should read the rest of the article....n/t
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:17 PM
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8. I read the whole thing.
It doesn't mention bioweapons anywhere. Vaccines against bioterror agents, yes, but that's just a funky way of saying "new ways to combat smallpox".
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:22 PM
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9. I highly doubt it..............
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 07:25 PM by converted_democrat
In order to make most vaccines you have to have the material you're making the vaccine for. BTW, there are many different bio weapons besides smallpox. They were specific about everything else....They said bio weapons, not small pox.

edit- for my awful spelling



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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:42 PM
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10. I did read it.
Bio weapons almost invariably means smallpox or anthrax; they have the right blend of communicability and lethality.

I didn't see the words bio-weapons in the article but it now refuses to let me in.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:51 PM
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11. Snip........
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 08:02 PM by converted_democrat
The storm has made scientists such as Kyriakos Papadopoulos of Tulane exiles from their labs. He was among a large cadre of collaborators working on vaccines against possible bioterror agents.

--Notice they say bioterror agents, as in plural. Even if it was just Anthrax and Small pox is that not enough for you? You were rude to the poster in your first post for no good reason.

edit- for my awful spelling
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:02 PM
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12. There are articles out there that tell of
the BSL3 lab in BR is doing bioterror research there.
I can't find the link, but the info is out there and is listed at DU. It may have told about funding, but can not remember for sure.

This link lists around the country labs of BSL3 and 4 levels.
http://www.SUNSHINE-PROJECT.org/biodefense

I wonder how smart it is to build a BSL4 in CA?
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:53 PM
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2. What's this?
They found the WMDs in NOLA? Good thing the storm hit, otherwise Commander CuckooBananas would have to bomb the shit of the place anyway.

:sarcasm:

Isn't it all just such unabashed hypocrisy?
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