Did Joe Conason implicate Tweety this weekend?

[phillybri]

I read this briefly in a thread yesterday, but I heard nothing else of it.

The poster said that Tweety was the one who told Joe Wilson "Karl Rove says your wife is fair game."

Is there any source or confirmation on this?

[blm]

1. David Corn confirmed in his recent Nation article.

The intel community will NOT let this drop.

[phillybri]

4. Here's the Corn article, thanks for the help!

http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=991

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. Tweety called Rove asking about Kovaks piece and Rove told Tweety

"Wilson's wife is fair game"
yup yup yup :7

[Kathy in Cambridge]

3. I saw Joe Conason on Friday Night

He mentioned David Corn and that this was only the tip of the iceberg.

He was signing books at the Harvard Coop in Cambridge, MA.

[KoKo]

5. He actually said this is "Only tip of the iceberg?" Glad to hear that

because this morning's spin is that the story is going to die out. Heard while scanning the cables.

[ByeDick]

6. More Ice - Cheney Is Buying A Walk-In Freezer

Regarding the Wilson intelligence scandal:

We need to realize that EVERYTHING Bush, Novak, and McClellan are SAYING is absolutely true. But everything they're TELLING US is a lie. We have to remember to listen carefully to the exact words.

Novak originally said that the information about Wilson's wife came from, "two senior administration officials." THIS IS TRUE.

Novak also says that, "Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this." THIS IS ALSO TRUE.

There is ONE MAN in the world who is BOTH a senior administration official, and does not release information from the administration (from the White House).

There is ONE MAN in the world who is BOTH a senior administration official, and is not technically a member of the administration.

There is ONE MAN in the world who invested his reputation and resources to the Niger yellowcake story, more than any other.

There was ONE MAN in the world who knew of Wilson's trip to Niger as well as he knew about the identity of Wilson's wife.

THE MAN'S NAME IS **DICK CHENEY**.

The yellowcake story was Cheney's baby.

Joseph Wilson killed Dick Cheney's baby.

So, when Scott McClellan talks about how "ridiculous" it is that the leak could have come out of Karl Rove, it's because he knows this statement to be true. Rove IS NOT the one who ORIGINALLY released this information. There is no way this could have been the case because there's really no scenario that would explain how Rove could legitimately be in possession of this information. But Rove is a part of the conspiracy, all the same.

The plan was for Cheney & Novak to make the info about Wilson's wife "common knowledge around Washington." That was the first wave of the attack. The second wave was initiated when Cheney told Rove that he (Cheney or his office) had put Wilson's wife's identity in print, and that she, and her identity, were now, "FAIR GAME." The rest was left to Rove. Rove, or people working with Rove, then made the FAIR GAME phone calls to the media, knowing that Cheney & Novak had laid the groundwork to cover their asses (legally) by making the secret information, "common knowledge around Washington."

The White House is trying to convince us that the Novak disclosure and the "FAIR GAME" phone calls were taking place as one continuous event, but they were not. The Novak crimes (disclosures) were designed to set up the FAIR GAME phone calls from Rove. This was a two-point plan. Novak is working with the White House on this. He is knowingly trying to mislead any would-be investigations and may eventually go down for this obvious obstruction (at least).

Scott McClellan completed the second wave on Wednesday (10/01/03). When asked to make a distinction between disclosing the identity of a covert CIA operative and discussing it after it is published, McClellan said, "That is such a broad question, about is it OK to discuss news articles," he said. "I mean, news articles are discussed all the time."

So, is there one top-level White House official whose email, phone records, etc. ARE NOT being protected by orders of the Justice Department? Is there one top-level White House official who does not work in the White House and whose staff is not under evidence protection orders or legal scrutiny? Is Cheney watching and laughing?

Cheney is the only top level White House official who DID NOT go before cameras this week to talk about everything he doesn't know. Dick Cheney won't be seen answering questions any time soon.

When they (McClellan & co.) say, "White House," they're actually saying, "THE PLACE WHERE CHENEY IS NOT." Notice how often they use the terminology "White House." And when Novak uses the word "identity," in talking about Valerie Plame, he's not talking about her job at the CIA, he's talking about her "identity" as Wilson's wife. It's a word game. The words are true; the message is a lie.

LISTEN TO THE WORDS THEY USE.

P.S.

For the purposes of discussion, the names "Dick Cheney" and "Lewis Libby" are interchangeable.

[phillybri]

7. That is an AWESOME post....

That should win an award or something.

All that being said, if Cheney falls on his sword, that would pretty much close the book on Bush being re-elected no matter who they got in at the VP slot, wouldn't it?

[ByeDick]

8. Phillybri / Cheney's Sword

That's basically my only post. I keep adding to it, and re-posting it to see where it goes.

I think they're going to have to order some more swords.

Bye Dick

[BQueen]

12. Keep it up - I believe you have their number

That makes so much sense. I saved it to peruse again later.

You've managed to replicate the thought processes of the demon. Are you a criminal profiler, by chance? <joking> Those are great insights.

[TacticalPeek]

13. Libby has denied apparently, sawing off Dick's limb somewhat.

If this is your main thing post, you may have already seen skip fox's posts:

Identity of Novak's 1st (leaker) source under our noses all along!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=457715


TreasonGate: First leaker's identity? Right under our noses.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=464822

TraitorGate. Who leaked first and why. Under our noses all along.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=14625


There are hints that point at a role for Robert Joseph at NSC, also. He's nuclear nonprolif like Plame, so if Nofacts was chatting up Dick, a not unreasonable person for him to call about 'sending Wilson', a letting drop of 'you know his wife's CIA, and had him sent, you can ask Joseph since he works with that bunch' would send Nofacts to Joseph for confirmation. Or less likely, vice versa.


Some credit to Tweety for pointing at the VP office very early on, a few days after Nofacts article on 14 Jul.

[ByeDick]

22. Thanks TacticalPeak - AND Tell me about Skip Fox

Yes. In fact Skip Fox replied to one of my first posts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=454737#456320

What can you tell a newcomer about Skip Fox?

[TacticalPeek]

25. Only that based on info in those posted links,

I googled "skip fox" and "jack gillis" and got enough links narrowed to see the toil in the vinyard of the grapes of wrath. Using just "skip fox" broadens it out. Someday I'll go back and check those Exquisite Corpse links. :)

[blm]

15. GREAT post, ByeDick.

You should send it around to more boards.

[ByeDick]

19. Thanks BLM - & "More Boards"

BLM,

I'm not the discussion board type of person, but if you have some boards, or URLs, or whatever, list 'em here and I'll check 'em out.

[Snellius]

17. It goes back even further with Cheney and Wilson

Wilson was the ambassador to Iraq leading up to the first Gulf War. The story has it that Cheney, who was of course Secretary of Defense at the time, still blames Wilson for being one of the prime "appeasers" at the time for advocating not marching into Baghdad.

From Wilson's bio:


From 1988 to 1991, Ambassador Wilson served in Baghdad, Iraq as Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy. During “Desert Shield” he was the acting Ambassador and was responsible for the negotiations that resulted in the release of several hundred American hostages. He was the last official American to meet with Saddam Hussein before the launching of “Desert Storm.”

http://www.mideasti.org/html/bio-wilson.html

[ElsewheresDaughter]

20. Snellius....BINGO!!!!

[Nederland]

21. Say What?

There is ONE MAN in the world who is BOTH a senior administration official, and is not technically a member of the administration.

On what planet is Dick Cheney not a member of the Bush Administration? How exactly can a person be a "senior administration official" and not a "member of the administration"?

[ByeDick]

23. Re "Say What?"

The Vice President works for The People, not the President. He is elected, not appointed.

Rumsfeld, Powell, Rove, Rice, etc. are all appointed and "administered" by Bush. Cheney is not. Cheney doesn't even work out of the White House.

[TacticalPeek]

24. The meaning of is not.

Not a "political gunslinger".

A political office(r).

But when pushed, Nofacts pleads 'can't talk about the investigation, lawyer and all'.

[Stupdworld]

9. pardon my ignorance

but is tweety dick cheney? thats what i gather, i think.

/slow

[phillybri]

10. Tweety is Chris Matthews of Hardball fame....

I think it's a reference to his hair.

I think it just sounds funny even if I don't know what it means!

:evilgrin:

[ByeDick]

11. Not just a matter of hair

I wasn't sure who Tweety was either, at first.

But when I thought for a moment about the TV bird w/ the huge yellow head, who lives in a little cage, and speaks with a speech impediment, I got it.

[qb]

14. He's also a hyperactive twit who talks a mile a minute.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

16. ...and he voted for the Chimp.

Tells you all you need to know about him.

[candy331]

18. Very Interesting

summary. I believe this thing will take quite a few twists and turns though before it comes to a head. Hope you'll continue to add to it. These thoughts might be needed by the special council when DOJ finish stalling.