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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:09 PM
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So, my American Govt. teacher just went over the 50's...
and it's amazing how, if you replaced "communist" with "terrorist", how exactly it would look like today's climate.

Where is today's Joseph Welch?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:10 PM
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1. Cold War = War on Terror
Nitze to Wolfowitz to Cheney to Rumsfeld.

The same game plan.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:11 PM
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2. A boogieman by any other name
still smells rotten.

Personally, I felt safer during the cold war.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:11 PM
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3. yep, I make exactly that same point in my journalism class
at Dickinson College.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:13 PM
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4. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU CRAIG
and I do think it will take that one person with the real sense of outrage and decency to get the ball rolling to get these f***ers out of power
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:17 PM
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8. Patrick Fitzgerald?
I have read that he will be completing his grand jury in a couple of weeks and has asked that no hearing take place until then so as not to weaken the sentencing of these criminals.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:40 PM
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12. I am not kidding when I say this
when If first read about Mr. Fitzgerald, Joseph Welch flashed in my mind; I remember that.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:05 PM
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17. well, my hopes are pinned on him
and the more I read about him, the more hope I have. Here's to the Joseph Welchs of the world. May more of them emerge from where ever every single day :toast:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:14 PM
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5. Without a "them" our Economy would need an overhaul
of systemic proportion .

The corporatist that run America want to keep
things the same so they need a "them" to continue
to make money they way they are accustom to .

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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:15 PM
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6. ?????????
It's why they won't hurt Bin Laden. When the boogy man goes , so goes the fear.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:16 PM
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7. And then there were those evil huns
poised to destroy our nation. We had to fight them over there, so we wouldnt have to fight them over here.

And for some reason we also had to fight them in the caribbean.
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bkcc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:25 PM
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9. I agree.
I recently worked with some old journal articles from the 50s and 60s and I was amazed by the political similarities to today.

So much of what happened is the same, just with new "actors" in the roles.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:27 PM
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10. Prescient as always
Frank Zappa pointed out that the Iranian bogeyman was used by Reagan to replace the eternal enemy that had been the Soviet Union. Radical Islam was to become the new enemy after the end of the Cold War.

He mentioned this explicitly in The Real Frank Zappa Book, but alluded to it as early as 1979 (Joe's Garage).

This has been brewing most of my life.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:32 PM
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11. Muslims & LIberals
muslims are our external enemy.

liberals, or "leftists", which includes everyone who is not a "conservative", have replaced communists as america's internal enemy.


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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:42 PM
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13. Nah, leftists were always the internal enemy.
Commies were just a sub-group.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:34 PM
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14. but i don't think it was ever extended this far towards "moderates"
moderates are now traitors.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:39 PM
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15. Indeed, once the left was essentially marginalized
they began salting the ideological fields. They will keep narrowing the field of accepted political discourse as long as they have the power to do so.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:40 PM
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16. Except now we have hundreds of "Tail-gunner" Joes
:eyes:
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