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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:08 PM
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A question for our conservative perusers.
Mainly, conservatives from the "other" forums. I know I won't get an answer here, but hopefully you will just have something to think about.

I have read many posts from many posters in your little conservative heaven about how we on the left like to whine and complain, but offer no solutions to what we whine and complain about. Well, that's why we try to elect people who have solutions to offer. We all cannot have solutions, but some among us here on the left are pretty bright, and DO have solutions.

I have also read many posts calling us "pathetic", which leads me to my question:

What is more pathetic? We who complain about things without solutions? Or you, who set up entire forums to complain about and ridicule people who complain? Do you have solutions to this nation's problems?

Think about your behavior.

That's it, ridicule away.:hi:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:15 PM
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1. Dems have lots of solutions. It is the Repukes who "stand down"
and let "problems" fester when it is politically expedient.

Clinton had lots of great policy.

Neocon policy is "perpetual war". How exactly does that help anything but conservatives get elected?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:20 PM
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2. There's no point in trying to talk sense to them.
They're cultists. They'd have to be deprogrammed before they could understand what you're saying.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:24 PM
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3. Call me a hopeless optimist,
or a shameless masochist.

Either way, sometimes I like to :banghead: give people the benefit of functional brain cells.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:24 PM
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4. People are offering solutions
I do not buy into your premise that people are being negative without offering a solution.

Cut military spending. End the Empire wars. Make the military do real accounting.
Bust up the media.
End wealthfare and corporate wealthfare.
End the war on drugs and adopt harm reduction strategies under a health care model.
Have all elections use a direct vote with a majority required for victory.
Require alcohol be added to all gasoline and get people to stop the bullshit about alcohol uses more energy than it creates.
Get real about pollution and the environment and put mercury pollution at top of priorities.
Bring on universal health care like the rest of the industrial world.
Create a tax structure that protects Americans from having an economy that can only export jobs and entertainment
Reign in federal power that no longer recognizes anything near the limits put on it by the nation states that ratified the Constitution.

People might be busy trying to halt the train that is clearly going in the wrong direction, but they also know where the proper destinations should be.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:28 PM
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6. Check my second paragraph in the OP.
I was not making that premise.
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:27 PM
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5. Stop it, you're making my head hurt! n/t
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:49 PM
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7. Ah HA! It works!
Cool.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:38 PM
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8. The very idea of progressive concepts is "progress" and thus solutions
We are the problem solvers.

None of their commentary is based on facts or analysis. It's all the emotion-based defensiveness of young children now in hormone-fired bodies. They want to believe Rush and FOX's pap, so they recite it. It's empty rhetoric for them. They have no idea how to critically infer anything.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:41 PM
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9. I just keep trying to chip away
at the ones who might wake up with a little work.

Pointless, I know.

I'm a sucker for a lost cause.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:10 AM
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:13 AM
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11. Fuck you
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 07:18 AM by Cooley Hurd
The reason we talk shit about the Chimp-in-Chief is because there's absolutely NOTHING nice to say about him - go ahead, give it a try.:eyes:

Oh, and you've been alerted to the mods...

P.S. "Drunkenness" is spelled with two n's, brainiac...:eyes:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:14 AM
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12. tell it to the Armpit
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:43 AM
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13. The poster's name was TruthOnDeafEars. Keep an eye open.
Could be a tombstone in the making, only 10 posts so far, not much patience.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:03 AM
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14. May already be tombstoned.
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