I see Cheney is sick again, and needs hospitalization

[CatWoman]

Haven't you guys noticed how puffy and bloated he has become?

And how rare he is seen in the public?

Mike Malloy commented on his puffiness the other night.

He says it's common with people who suffer from heart disease.

Cheney is looking bad these days, that's for sure.





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[Kingshakabobo]

1. He's not a gonna make it. n/t

[MissWaverly]

2. the extreme heat of the South would not help either

it would certainly have stressed out his body which already has
major problems.

[JuniperLea]

3. Congestive heart failure

is what it looks like to me.

I'm not a Dr., but I play one on DU;)

Just saying, my granny had those same symptoms.

They are saying aneurysm on the back of his leg. I'm thinking he is going in for bi-pass surgery and they are going to take some blood vessels from his leg and they need an excuse for the limping/scarring, etc.

[CatWoman]

6. my father went thru the same thing

and they had to do by pass.

Shortly afterward, he died :cry:

[JuniperLea]

8. Sorry to hear that, CatWoman

That's what makes me think Bush and F.Y. Cheney are going to last forever; only the good die young.

[notadmblnd]

21. I agree, if he's already having congestive heart failure

and not just engina, he's a gonner. course I wouldn't put it past the BFEE to kill someone and rip thier heart out so cheney could have a new one.

[Imagevision]

32. BS> Cheney wants no part of Bushies NO. headaches plain & simple

And Bush passes the chore to Rove, and Rove will pass it on to....??

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. My Dx? he is not long for this world.

I suspect his fishing vacation got him healthy enough to travel. Now, that temporary fix is running out, as is his future. This is one sick man, in many ways. Greedy, evil, ugly bastard, too.

[Stephanie]

10. well there is a term limit on his bypass

I think it is expected to hold for 20 years or something. This is a man that had his first heart attack in his early forties. Then had three more. That we're aware of.

[despairing optimist]

5. Am I supposed to feel sorry? The country's looking far worse, isn't it?

I might find some compassion if Cheney and his nominal boss resigned for the good of the country, before they did any more damage. Until then I'll channel my more charitable impulses toward far more deserving human beings.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

7. The only thing that I've ever noticed is that

he exudes happiness.







Way to go, fella! :patriot:

[goclark]

25. Lynn sure sticks like glue to him these days

She is trying to prop him up and stay up on the latest.

Watch, she will run for office one day soon.

What the hell was she doing on 911 when no one was able to use the phones...remember that one?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

26. Refresh my memory.

I'm always good for a Lynn trashin'.

My guess: Clinking champagne glasses with Dickie.

[CatWoman]

27. In Richard Clarke's book

he told of the events on 9/11 -- he couldn't keep the phone lines open because Lynn Cheney was a real witch about the phones.

I can't remember exactly - but I do recall her completely dissing Clarke's request that the phone lines be kept open.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

28. Imagine if Dick Cheney was your sugar daddy...

I'd be riding a broom, too.

[Missy Vixen]

30. Richard Clarke was in the situation room with Condi

and the others who were meeting to discuss what to do. Condi requested that he run the meeting, interestingly enough.

Cheney (and his shrew of a wife,) were in the underground bunker. Clarke needed access to Cheney; they were discussing matters of national security. * was all over the country on Air Force One. Lynne Cheney kept turning down the speaker connecting those in the meeting to the bunker; she was mad because she "couldn't hear CNN."

This is the first 30 pages of Richard Clarke's book. I was so mad after reading the above that I had to put the book down for awhile. Lynne Cheney was interfering with a matter of national security because she "couldn't hear CNN"? I'm wondering how long it will be before I can finish it.

Julie

[NNadir]

48. In '74 Agnew was gone before Nixon.

It made impeachment a little more palatable.

I used to think impeachment was impossible. Now I'm less sure.

[Stephanie]

9. A few months ago he was being discussed as a 2008 nominee

I don't hear that talk any more. They would only need him to survive to the swearing-in, but they are no longer confident of that.

[cliss]

11. Yes, I tend to believe this.

Remember, about 1 month ago? Cheney was in Denver, and he was whisked away for some kind of hush-hush visit to the hospital. Later, a hospital spokesperson said it was problem with his knee due to "an old football injury".

So he could very well have some kind of trouble with the circulation in his knee. Don't forget: this could be a sign of serious problems.

Now, I do know that the Old Boy has a hole in his aorta which has not closed properly. I know his doctors must live a stress-filled existence taking care of this man.

Notice the photo on the bottom, where he's sitting next to Lynne. His face is red, puffy. It's almost purple if you look really closely.

******I can't say what I'm thinkin******

[CatWoman]

12. "weekend at bernies"??

[McCamy Taylor]

13. He should retire. Ordinarily it would be the VP who would go to NOLA

That was Al Gore's job under Clinton. If Cheney has congestive heart failure then he is just hurting himself by pushing himself too hard, and the country will suffer if he isnt available to do his job.

The reason the GOP accepted * and his known stupidity and other faults was because Cheney was supposed to be the "real" president. If the real president cant serve, then he needs to step aside.

[Independent_Liberal]

14. I guess it was from him fucking himself.

It gave him an aneurysm.

:)

[Parche]

15. Dickhead Cheney

He is the one person who I would not
shed a tear over if he went............

And I am not a mean person!!!

[NYC]

16. Cheney wore a heavy, long sleeved jacket in 90 degree weather

at the Crawford Pig Sty photo op. He, Bush, Rice, and Rumsfeld were in the photograph.

[CatWoman]

20. do you think he had a circulation problem

or was he trying to hide something?

:hi:

I owe you an email :D

[NYC]

22. I think he was trying to hide bloating, and

I think maybe his circulation is so bad that maybe he felt cold -- or something. I don't know how anyone could stand to wear so much clothing in that heat.

I don't know why a long sleeved shirt wasn't sufficient to hide whatever they were hiding. That's why I suspect he was actually cold -- or something.

It was very strange. Do you remember the photograph? It was shortly after the London shooting of the Brazilian. The first thing that went through my mind was that the Brazilian had been shot for wearing less, and in cooler weather.

[Stephanie]

39. I had the picture but it has expired at Yahoo news - it was at this link

>>>Thursday:

U.S. President George W. Bush speaks alongside senior administration figures following their meeting on defense issues on his ranch in Crawford, Texas, August 11, 2005.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050812/photos_ts/mdf22630



It was posted in this thread but now the link has died.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4358262

[NYC]

44. That's too bad.

I was hoping someone had it. Thanks for looking.

[greatauntoftriplets]

40. Coumadin.

A blood thinner. It makes you real cold.

[NYC]

45. How does a blood thinner go along with

an aneurism? Any relationship between the two?

[grasswire]

46. well...........

....a blood thinner should prevent clots. I spose that's the danger, that a clot will form in the aneurism and break off and give him a pulmonary embolism.

[greatauntoftriplets]

50. No clue....

But it does make you feel the cold. I wondered if Cheney was on Coumadin when I saw that photo of him wearing a heavy jacket in Texas in August.

[NYC]

52. That's the photograph I was talking about.

Stephanie said she had a link to it, but it is now a dead link.

[greatauntoftriplets]

55. I don't have a link to the photo...

Just remember seeing it. Figured he was on meds that made him cold. My father took coumadin for a while. I recall being in the back yard with him on a 90-plus degree day...and he was wearing a wool sweater. And not at all warm.

[davsand]

54. Coumadin is a standard thing with any implanted device for cardiac.

His defib unit/pacemaker probably requires that he take Coumadin. It is a blood thinner that works kind of like Heparin does--it prevents clotting. With any kind of valve implant or pacemaker unit they'd be afraid of clots forming on it and then breaking off and causing strokes and what-not.

Cheney looks like a guy who is carrying a lot of fluid (in congestive heart failure.) Oddly enough, they have published some studies lately that indicate that stem cells can help a great deal with heart failure. Given all the posturing the GOP has done on stem cell I find it no small irony, even while I mourn for the people it could help.

My father is in the later stages of Congestive Heart Failure, and I know this stuff from personal observations of his battle for survival.


Laura

[AnnInLa]

17. Is this the "plan" right on schedule?

((I just posted this in another thread, so am copying and pasting it here....am lazy, lazy tonight.))



Way back when....immediately after the last election, Brian Williams


was on Imus....he said that the rumor around Washington was that during the second administration, the repuke/rove plan was for Cheney to resign for "health" reasons, allowing bush to appoint a new VP. He said that was scuttlebutt.

This would give the new, rove-chosen VP 3 years on the national and world stages to prepare him for the election of 2008. It is the only way rove can guarantee that McCain or Rudy does NOT get the repuke nomination. On social issues, McCain or Rudy would undo most of the gains the RW extremists have made. The rove plan is for the repuke party to take over the country, making the Dem party just a token party, small and ineffective....just for show. For rove to succeed in this, he can't just retire when bush is out of office. He must make sure his plan for America is continued by a person of his choosing...and with so many "hurricanes" and "gas hikes" out there, he'd better get a new VP (the next pres in 2008) fast.

I have always remembered what Brian Williams said, and every time cheney goes into the hospital, I expect an announcement of his "retirement."

[Wizard777]

18. That isn't the kind of cuts we need to make!

Fuck him! Have Bush saw that leg off and sell it on E-bay! At least them we can recoup something from all those brush clearing vacations.

[David Zephyr]

19. He has grandjuryitis.

Happy Weekend, CatWoman. :hi:

[CatWoman]

23. ROFL

:hi: David

[Enraged_Ape]

24. Cheney looks absolutely horrible. He is close to death.

There is not a doubt in my mind.

The guy is obviously carrying gallons of extra water in his body tissues. Just look at him, for crying out loud! He has rarely appeared in public over the last few weeks, and when he has, he's been caked with obvious make-up and looked like a Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon, he's been so huge and bloated. That sudden hyperinflated look does not come from too many meals at Ruth Chris's Steakhouse. It's from a serious cardiovascular condition.

He is a textbook case of SEVERE congestive heart failure. I don't wish a death by heart failure on ANYONE, not even my worst enemy. But just looking at Cheney, I can't see that the guy is going to survive to next year.

[Cleita]

29. I know I look like a bitch now, but

don't get our hopes up. They will keep the old fart alive just like they did Strom Thurmond.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

31. Even the richest, most powerful men in the world can't cheat death,

or prevent the Grim Reaper from claiming his own.

[Tx_Democrat]

33. Oh M..

Oh my gosh..

[Imagevision]

34. I can't believe you guyz are buying this??!!

Like Cheney really wants to be part of Bush's mess in New Orleans -NOT!

[dsc]

35. My dad has a very similar heart history to Cheney's

and is in the same age range (he is a bit older than Cheney but not unreasonably older than he is) and Cheney is showing signs of heart failure. Many people with severely damaged hearts end up having that. Signs include water retention which is pretty much bloating. The drugs used for that tend to have a lot of side effects including making you much less energetic. Frankly it was nothing short of insane to have him as VP given this condition. The press really let us down on this though he has lasted for longer than I thought he would. There is no earthly way my Dad could ever keep the kind of schedule that Cheney should be keeping as VP for a man as disengaged as Bush is. To compare my Dad went on disability from being a speech therapist over 14 years ago, when he would have been around a decade younger than Cheney is now.

[oasis]

36. Cheney will step down next year. Condi will take his place as VP.

[Imagevision]

43. smart move Hillary should love this

[TheStates]

47. Cheney may be dead by then.....

And we could have Hastert as president instead of Bush until Hastert ends up having one too many sundaes.....Why are all the crooks so fat?

[Rex]

37. It's that evil oil pump he calls a heart.

Stainless steel and colder than Hell.

[nonconformist]

38. Cheney has appeared on the verge of death for so long now

I'm surprised he's still alive, frankly.

I hope he doesn't die before his term ends though. He doesn't deserve to be freaking idolized like he would be if he did.

[NervousRex]

41. The sooner the better....

I wouldn't want to see the Vice President suffer any longer with his terminal ailment....This country does not need a limp Dick.

[graywarrior]

42. Dear Mr. Cheney

See ya, wouldn't wanta be ya.

[gratuitous]

49. Unicorn blood ain't cheap

That's why Halliburton needed another cash infusion from the no-bid contracts in the Gulf Coast states. Unka Dick gots to get paid.

[Raydawg1234]

51. Yes...the Dark side is taking its toll

[TheCowsCameHome]

53. Don't listen to those doctors, Dick. Just whack that thing on you knee

with a heavy stick. I'll break free and harmlessly dissolve.

Trust me.