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Captain Absolut Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:43 AM
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Secret Societies and World Power
I mean the 3 major ones Builderberger's (sp), Trilateral Commission, and Skull and Bones...(I dont care about the Masons).

Most of the World's elite belong to one or more of these groups. Clinton, Blair, Kerry, and both Bush's.

I'm not a conspiracy nut at all, but it's just weird that men of power belong to those societies.

I don't really believe they are trying to instill the New World Order, but are more of the best networking groups you can belong to.

What are your thoughts???
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:45 AM
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1. It's a club most people can't join
Private clubs mean private knowledge.

Conpiracies are alive and well.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:47 AM
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2. IMO, it's awfully suspicious
how powerful people belong to either one of two powerful groups or are members of an elite fraternity which draws it members from an elite university.

I would have assumed that the nations elite come from sources like Kiwanis, PTA's, bowling clubs, etc
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:52 AM
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3. Secret societies have no place in democracy
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 11:54 AM by bobthedrummer
so why do so many world leaders belong to them? They do appear to act in concert IMO, but since I'm not a member what do I know???

The best and brightest of the thousand points of light is what they fancy themselves, it is still the "haves and the have-nots".
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:56 AM
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6. Freedom of association has no place in democracy
.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:53 AM
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4. Bilderberg
What information do you have on this group? Who do you think belongs to it?

There are more masons than Skull and Bones members, but yeah, if the Masons had real power their temples wouldn't be closing all over America.

Skull and Bones is just like any other fraternity (Yale doesn't have a Greek system from what I understand, all the frats/sororities are 'secret societies, like Porn and Chicken.) Its membership may be a bit closer socially than other frats, but they don't have any secret power or control over anything.

The Trilateral Commission is equally mysterious but no more mysterious than our Federal Reserve system.
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Captain Absolut Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:05 PM
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8. well
I know Clinton is a member of the Bilderbergers. They publish their member list online. Just google it.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:40 PM
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10. I have Googled It
and only come up with conspiracy shite. nothing I could use as a source in any good conscience.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:59 PM
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11. LOL
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 01:03 PM by nolabels
Maybe they need their names etched on a stone monuement on walkway mall in DC.

http://www.sumeria.net/politics/bilders.html

The Bilderbergers
From The Spotlight, May 10, 1993


NEWS BLACKOUT BY US PRESS

Cowardice of Media Obvious

Who's afraid of the Bilderbergers? You decide.

By Lawrence Wilmot

New York City--Mainstream news organizations boastful about their no-holds barred investigative exploits, have been strangely reluctant to lift the blackout curtain hiding a major event: the Bilderberg group's secret annual meeting for the world's most powerful financiers, industrialists, and political figures.

At the United Nations where 50 or more journalists gather for even a routine conference, there was ironic laughter in the press room when this populist newspaper's diplomatic correspondent raised a question about the silence surrounding this conspiratorial conclave.

"The Bilderbergers have been removed from our assignment list years ago by executive order," said Anthony Holder, a former UN correspondent for the Economist, the leading international business weekly.

"Our policy seems to be that if the Bilderbergers want to parley in private, leave them alone," added Holder, now a reporter for the 'European'.

The reason why this imperious assembly should be granted the sort of secrecy for its deliberations the mass media would never accord to any government--not even to Europe's reigning royalty--was, in the consensus of UN correspondents, simple: "The Bilderbergers are too powerful and omnipresent to be exposed," as French broadcaster Thierry de Segonzac put it.
(snip)

http://www.bilderberg.org/2002.htm
(snip)(a little way down)

07Jun02 - Bilderberg 2002 official Press Release and participant list

PRESS RELEASE
BILDERBERG MEETINGS

31 May 2002

The 50th Bilderberg Meeting will be held in Chantilly, Virginia, U.S.A., 30 May-2 June 2002. Among other subjects the Conference will discuss Terrorism, Trade, Post Crisis Reconstruction, Middle East, Civil Liberties, US Foreign Policy, Extreme Right, World Economy, Corporate Governance.
Approximately 120 participants from North America and Europe will attend the discussions. The meeting is private in order to encourage frank and open discussion.

(snip)

A long list is here, Cheers?

ON edit: Maybe you might be intererested in this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=17950

Jekl (24 posts) Thu Jul-10-03 10:25 AM
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Being Googled


Over the past year I have been doing research on a particurly sensitive subject using Google as my main search avenue.
I have noticed when I research the same subject now on Google that most of the information is not showing although I can find it using other search engines.
(snip)
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:53 AM
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5. I like to keep an open mind about these things.
Frankly, they all scare the hell out of me. I would prefer a president that didn't have any of these connections.

Dean is not part of any of these organizations, as far as I know.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:03 PM
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7. They are NOT Conspiring to take over the world!!!!!!!!
However they do greatly influence the policy of sovereign nations by getting these nations elected officials into their "clubs"!

They act more as International Think Tanks than anything else!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:07 PM
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9. Not think tanks!
I'd call them "Drink Tanks" - based on what I assume to the focus of their main activity. I've seen descriptions of the goings at Bohemian Grove - sounds like a college fraternity made up of old guys with way too much money.

Is it time to drag out C. Wright Mills and re-read "The Power Elite"?
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