38% of Americans are Racist and GOP

[NoBushSpokenHere]

It would be interesting to see the profiles of the ones who still support *

I would imagine them to be a mix of:

Racist people
Wealthy
Career military
In denial

My response to someone who recently told me they were Republican - "Oh, I didn't know you were racist!" They stood their with their mouth hanging open and speechless. I shook my head in disgust and walked away.

Calling people on their racism or on their parties racism may help them wake up and smell the roses.

I would also guess that career military families may have a flicker of guilt in their conscience because they have known how to work the system and stay out of the line of fire. So, my response to them chips away at that guilt. "How can you support a party who supports sending our kids to die for oil?"

The wealthy will wake up when the economy collapses, or when they realize the administration doesn't give a damn about their wealth. Big difference between millions and billions.

Those in denial will wake up and realize the republican party is just a cover for mega-wealth and racism.

I am proud to be a Democrat, non-racist, value-driven person who is fighting for the freedom of the American people.



btw........this is my 500th post :)

[OneGrassRoot]

1. Congrats, and I wonder, too...........

my family consists of * supporters.

Yep, they're racist. No, they're far from wealthy, nor are they military.

So, yes, I have to assume they're in tremendous denial.

I simply don't get it when those who struggle financially get so incensed about "welfare cases", yet don't realize corporate welfare and looting are MUCH more harmful to the average citizen.

I got into it with my sister about the Katrina mess, and her response that all of this shows everyone needs to learn to take care of themselves and not depend on government.

Well, sure, but what the fuck are we paying taxes for if we can't depend upon BASIC functions of government....to keep us safe?

[SledDriver]

4. Mine too.

Same situation...

They don't burn crosses or wear white sheets, but they do tend to be a tad racist, though they won't admit it. They're far from wealthy. None of them are in the military.

I'm not sure I would classify their condition as denial, but more of a "you should never question or criticize the president, for the good of the country, in time of war" mentality.

For example: They'll get forwarded a RW propaganda email from one of their imbecile friends who got it forwarded from another imbecile. The email will contain drivel that sounds like it came straight out of the mouth of Rush Limpballs. They'll read it, believe it, and forward it on to me with this "see, I told you so" message attached. No research. No sources. No counterpoint. Just "someone wrote it, it sounds like it's probably true. The person that wrote it must have researched all of the points in it...".

It's like people who try to pass off trivia as knowledge.

[OneGrassRoot]

7. You're absolutely right..............

a "you should never question or criticize the president, for the good of the country, in time of war" mentality.


Yes, you nailed it. We even had this conversation the other day, and when she mentioned the word "patriotism," I said, "Right there. That one word is what often separates the two belief systems in this country. You believe patriotism is supporting * no matter what. I believe patriotism is loyalty to one's COUNTRY, not the office of President or any other position, until they have earned it.

I also receive the forwarded talking points, with no research done whatsoever. Geesh.

[OneGrassRoot]

8. One area of common ground, however.............

was the fact that we all seem to agree that our voting system is corrupt (of course, they feel Dems corrupt it....lol), and we're not truly a democracy any longer.

I thought that was interesting.........

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. Did your sister pay attention in civics class?

When they taught her the function of govt?

In my class, I learned the main purpose of govt was to protect its citizens.

[zippy890]

2. I think you're absolutely right

I have come to the same conclusion, that the remaining bush supporters are either racists or wealthy (or both)

Personal experience with people has proven this to me - And I have been doing the same thing! A co-worker's comments about low-income people, criminality and her support of bush I just said to her - "So this is about race is it?"

The look on her face- for once she had no response- I had called her out and she couldn't lie her way out of it!

Great 500th post!:hi:

[CottonBear]

3. All of my relatives and my in-laws are Republicans.

They range from the very wealthy (millionare heiresses, doctors and factory owners) to upper middle class business owners to lower middle class working folks and retired widows.

They are all Republicans. They are republicans because of race, greed, class, and social hot button issues such as abortion and gay marriage.

The in-laws who've evacuated their St. Tammany Parish homes due to hurricane damage are very racist, anti-gay and anti-abortion. (God help me, I love them. We've just agree to disagree. They are the only family we have left on my husbands side.) They are never going to change. They use the N word frequently. My Democratic husband and his Republican sister try not to discuss politics. I believe that he is a Democrat because he's the only member of his extended family to attend college (and graduate school.) He also moved away from LA. The rest of them (with one recent exception) have never left.

They all attend church and/or profess a Christian faith.

My own mother said she wasn't being a racist when, several years ago, she un-invited my black, Caribbean boyfriend to Thanksgiving dinner because "what would the neighbors think?"

I don't know why Mr. CB and I turned out to be progressive liberals.
I'm just glad we did.

[randomescape]

5. btw........this is my 500th post : )

Congrats on your 500th post! It's unfortunate that you wasted it on such garbage. This is the problem with many in our party. They make blanket statements with no facts. Here is a fact for you:

My neighbors are Republicans. Neither are career military (did not spend any time in the military) they definitely are not wealthy (matter of fact they have trouble making ends meet) they don't seem to be in denial and I can promise you they are NOT raciest!

In my opinion, this is why we are having so many problems getting our message across!

Keep in mind that there are Democrats (as my neighbor has pointed out) who fit your above description! He calls them Hypocrits...and he's right!

[NoBushSpokenHere]

15. Congrats on your 500th

I think our party has suffered because we haven't stereotyped.......

And as far as your comments that I was stating with no facts - I believe my post said I would be interested in knowing the profiles of the 38% still supporting *

No, I didn't have the facts, just interested in discovering them and sharing my opinions regarding the 38%.

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Not in regard to your post - just had to share this -

Just had a nice conversation with a republican business associate - he agrees that anyone who can support this administration after what has happened in NO, "Must be pretty damn stupid."

[zippy890]

16. check out profile of poster

I kinda had a feeling about him

[comsymp]

26. "Feeling" or not, he was right

Blanket statements, sweeping assertions and gross generalizations are hallmarks of a Freeper mentality and antithetical to Liberalism (not to mention signs of intellectual laziness). Thinking folks do do nuance.

[Seeking Serenity]

27. Thank you (see my posts below) n/t

[Branjor]

6. Sexist would be high on their profile.

n/t

[ultraist]

9. In denial...

In denial or delusional would include those that think they are wealthy, when they are not, or think they will become wealthy under Republicans.

Recently, my husband had a funny conversation with a heating and air guy that he contracted. The H&A guy saw my husband's Kerry-Edwards sticker and said, "you didn't vote them?" My husband said,
"you didn't vote for BUSH?" The guy said, "hell, yeah" and shook his fist up in the air. My husband laughed and said, "You must have some millions stashed away that I didn't know about." BWHAHAHA...The guy said, "I"m still waiting for mine." My husband said, "Oh, it just hasn't TRICKLED down yet?" The guy defended Bush and said he may run out of time with only three years left. This blue collar, skilled laborer, actually believes he will be better off, financially, under Republicans.

Point being, even if his boy fails him and he doesn't start to make a lot of money, he still supports him. UNbelievable!!!

I told my husband to tell him, next time he sees him, that the Democrats would be sure he made more money.

[indepat]

10. I sense a no-so-veiled racism in general in RW talking heads and

the idolatrous little people who still chant: four more years, four more years.

[Clark2008]

11. I would take out career military.

I know tons of vets - most hate Shrub.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

14. Agreed in part ---- but ---- this post stemmed from

a career military family member who made a statement yesterday about, "Those people" in NO. I believe MOST veterans cannot stand Bush and are against the war, but I believe there are career military people who are blind enough to continue to support him. The career military members always seem to know the ropes to avoid being in the battlefields.

The veterans in my family are all Democrats, all detest bush, all are against war and the genocide in NO.

[Clark2008]

18. My fiance is a vet - hates Bushie (as he calls him).

Of course Wes Clark and John Kerry are both vets and can't stand the stupid fucker. :7

[Nay]

12. Religion, esp hot-button religion, is in the mix, too.

Abortion, gays, "morality."

I have a work acquaintance who is in the "he is the president, he's doing things this way because he knows a lot more than I do" camp. This woman has more brains in her little finger than Bush has in his whole head, but because he went to Yale, he must be smarter than she is. She also thinks Reagan was "a smart man." Trying to explain to her what a "gentleman's C" or "legacy admission" is just does not penetrate.

The aura of the office of President cows so many people that they are unable to evaluate the person put into that office in any manner whatsoever.

A large number of Repubs in my workplace are also insulated from economic downturns by the generous pay and benefits at our workplace, and wonder what the hell is wrong with "those" people out there, can't they just get a decent job?? Trying to explain to them that those decent jobs are disappearing is an impossible task, because, well, THEIR jobs are cushy! They have no way of comparing because they have worked at our workplace for 20 years. They know nothing else. Even the influx of workers from downsized companies, and the horrors that their new coworkers filled them in on, doesn't seem to dent them.

I know I sound like a broken record, but these people will never wise up until they are thrown into the fire themselves, and the only thing that will do that is a major national breakdown of some kind.

[wildeyed]

13. My GOP in-laws = Racist people, Wealthy, In denial

They are still supporting * after Katrina, so I figure they can't be helped.

[mtnsnake]

17. What you did when you called that Republican a racist

is something that I think we all have to do.

It's time to fight fire with fire, label the other ones as evil, repeat it anytime we get a chance. Even if they're a Republican and they're not really racist, accuse them of it anyway....guilty by association. Republicans have successfully labeled us Democrats in so many unfair ways that it's time to turn the tables on them.

Last year I posted a similar idea as you did, that we need to start broadcasting sweeping negative generalizations about Republicans, over and over and over, if we're ever to win over enough of them in the future to change the balance in our favor. We need to point them out as the party of racists. We've been way too nice to that racist, warmongering party.

[Seeking Serenity]

21. You come up to my husband and call him a racist

I just may have to punch you right in the nose.

These generalizations don't help. All they do is give the speaker a smug sense of self-righteousness.

Should not be a liberal trait.

[TheStates]

23. They do help if they're used appropriately.

Class-racism is the issue of the GOP. There is an abundance of class-racism in this country, more obvious and blatant than ever before.

It must be exploited, and that includes guilt by association for those who openly support class-racism. It is vile and detrimental.

[Seeking Serenity]

25. When used in regard to DH is wholly inappropriate

You and I will just have to disagree.

I will not participate in such juvenile and ultimately counter-productive tactics. And I will actively argue against such.

:grr:

[comsymp]

28. ITA -

And you're right - smugness and self-righteousness should not be considered liberal traits.

[Seeking Serenity]

29. Not to mention "guilt by association"

Wasn't that Joe McCarthy's schtick?

I choose not to participate.

[leftofthedial]

19. I know plenty of them, but I do not understand the support he gets from

career military at all

[TheStates]

20. The GOP Congress is the reflection of the 30% of america....

The 30% of america who is overtly racist and cares for nothing but the rich. That is what the GOP congress is. That is who they represent.

Until you change the mind of the overtly racist and fully angered rich, white and christian you will never change the mind of the GOP.

They are slaves to hate, bigotry and money. They are beyond hope.

[Corgigal]

24. I have said this but I do it a bit different

I say, well I'm a Democrat but then again, I'm not racist. It's the same but it floors any Republicans you happen to be talking with.
Every Republican I know in the south is racist, it's right under the surface and with just a little scratching it appears. Fearful people too.

[Seeking Serenity]

30. So much for this thread.